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tajoh111

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-It needs to come down in cost then otherwise NV will be chasing the proverbial chicken and egg.

I think everything would have been better received this generation if all the parts (102/4/6/16 etc) had slotted into their historic price points and NV just took one in the margins for the team to really get a broad base of RTX hardware out there. No one could argue with a RTX 2070 perf + RTX @ 1660ti prices so on and on, but instead here we are.
They wouldn't have made money really at that point. Particularly not enough to cover the R and D expense. Remember Nvidia spends billions on R and D and developing new architectures and they have to make the profits to cover that. Also the cost to manufacture these cards have gone up because of the large die size and the added expense of GDDR6.

8gb of GDDR6 is around 90 dollars because of how new it is. Add the big 440mm2 die and you have pathetic margin when your the leader in your market and you have no competition. Remember retailers and partners have to take a cut of of that pie(15% and 10%). Add the PCB and power ($30), cooler($20), Packaging and assembly(10), shipping logistics and you have nvidia selling these to partners for 70 dollars which is not that far off cost.

It would also put AMD graphic division out of business. AMD can't even sustain a $280 dollar RX vega 56 without losing money. They would need a 250 dollar RX Vega 64 at that price with every single card below that incurring a huge loss vs a $280 RTX 2070, 220 RTX 2060 and a 160 dollar GTX 1660 ti.

That's anticompetitive because your forcing your competitor to get in a war of attrition they can't afford and you can. That is Nvidia sells the cards at cost while forcing AMD to take a 120-150 dollar loss on cards like Vega 64 and smaller losses of 30-50 dollars on cards like RX 570,580 and 590 making it unprofitable to continue competing in the consumer market forcing them to exit.

There is a difference between fair prices and predatory prices. When prices are low to the extent where you make no money and your competition losses money, your crossing that line.
 
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fluxdeity

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This is a better value, but Nvidia's best competition is still itself. A used GTX 1070 8GB is the better buy around $200 for many, especially if you have need/want for the 8GB vRAM. I got 1070 Extreme Gigabyte cards with 2.5 years warranty remaining for just over $200 each a few months prior. That $200 threshold is where you start losing the mainstream buyers.

If you need new, the recent sales at Newegg and Best Buy of Vega 56 cards at $249.99 AR is also a reasonable alternative, especially with 3 game bundle. I will be watching for more sales, because at that price Vega is actually attractive, warts and all.

For compute purposes, the RTX 2060 card offers better perf/$ and perf/W - so I doubt many will choose this card over RTX for F@H, BOINC, etc.

It'll be interesting to see if the 1660 non-TI can successfully fill the mainstream void.
Gigabyte warranty is non transferable. So you're lying to still use warranty. Doesn't say anywhere on there website but that's what they told me when I tried RMA'ing a motherboard that was 6 months old that I bought from a friend.
 

ozzy702

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Gigabyte warranty is non transferable. So you're lying to still use warranty. Doesn't say anywhere on there website but that's what they told me when I tried RMA'ing a motherboard that was 6 months old that I bought from a friend.
Never buy gigabyte. One more reason EVGA is the way to go. Gigabyte does everything they can to get out of warrantying cards.
 

Markfw

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Never buy gigabyte. One more reason EVGA is the way to go. Gigabyte does everything they can to get out of warrantying cards.
Gigabyte does everything they can to get out of warrantying ANYTHING ! I had an RMA turned down, and they flat broke my motherboard and said I did it. I even have witnesses.
 
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moonbogg

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I know a dude who recently spent $190 on a GTX 1050Ti. I did him a solid and said TAKE IT BACK and get the 1660Ti instead. He replaced it. I did good.
 

Markfw

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I know a dude who recently spent $190 on a GTX 1050Ti. I did him a solid and said TAKE IT BACK and get the 1660Ti instead. He replaced it. I did good.
I just got a 970 4 gig for $90. I wanted just about the fastest card supported by XP, and the 980 and 980TI run just too hot. I guess I should go look at the benchmarks to see where that cards lays.

Edit: Boy that 970 sure is a pig compared to 1xxx and 16xx series cards.
 

Arkaign

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I just got a 970 4 gig for $90. I wanted just about the fastest card supported by XP, and the 980 and 980TI run just too hot. I guess I should go look at the benchmarks to see where that cards lays.

Edit: Boy that 970 sure is a pig compared to 1xxx and 16xx series cards.
I still have an EVGA and an Asus 970. Don't they roughly slot in between 1050ti-10603GB range? I sent a dead 960 4GB to Gigabyte for RMA and they send me a 1060 6GB, and it seemed faster than my 970 by a bit.
 

Markfw

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I still have an EVGA and an Asus 970. Don't they roughly slot in between 1050ti-10603GB range? I sent a dead 960 4GB to Gigabyte for RMA and they send me a 1060 6GB, and it seemed faster than my 970 by a bit.
Well, in the Anandtech bench, it looses to the 1060 3 gig by a fair amount. No 1050 anything in the list there,
 

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