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[Finalnight]

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[kermalou]

really, i dont get why you would ask the opinion of people on the internet. if they were winners, they wouldn't be on the internets

 

[bamacre]

My last ATOT advice thread...

Fixed.


Edit: C

 

[Finalnight]

Originally posted by: bamacre

My last ATOT advice thread...

Fixed.


Edit: C

QFT

lol

Anyway, I asked because I figured most ATOTers seemed to have been screwed over quite a few times at their various jobs.

 

[white]

look for a new job but keep working until you get an offer.

 

[tm37]

sleep with your boss that will show him how commitied you are to the company

 

[Keyvan]

Originally posted by: white
look for a new job but keep working until you get an offer.

that's what I would do, in fact that's what I did do and I ended up finding a better job elsewhere. It also depends on whether you see yourself staying with this company in the long run.


Funny story about it actually, I ran into my boss' boss' boss (the district manager), and she actually recognized me and we chatted for a bit and I told her what happened, and although I'm sure she probably doesn't care, she wasn't impressed with the way they handled it because she kinda liked me. This happened yesterday, and I left this job about 2 weeks ago.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Keyvan

Originally posted by: tm37
sleep with your boss that will show him how commitied you are to the company

that's what I would do, in fact that's what I did do and I ended up finding a better job elsewhere. It also depends on whether you see yourself staying with this company in the long run.


Funny story about it actually, I ran into my boss' boss' boss (the district manager), and she actually recognized me and we chatted for a bit and I told her what happened, and although I'm sure she probably doesn't care, she wasn't impressed with the way they handled it because she kinda liked me. This happened yesterday, and I left this job about 2 weeks ago.

fixed.

 

[JoeKing]

tell your manager you're aware of what's been going on and threaten to quit. Watch the fear on his face. Enjoy your new title and raise

this is assuming there is still a few weeks before the change off.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Finalnight
Ok, here is the story of what is going on. I have been working at my job for about 1 year. I started as a part-time employee because they had no full time positions in my dept. availible. About a month after I get hired I find out some full time positions (way better benefits, guranteed hours, tuition reimbersement) have come open. I request that I be switched into one of these positions. At this point I am doing really well in the company, performance is top notch. Instead an outsider and a person from another dept (former supervisor) who is burnt out and friends with the asst manager get the spots. Few months later another outsider is hired as a full timer. At this point having had a perfect score on my "post probationary" review and being the dept mvp, I start to get somewhat upset. I am told they dont think a person my age in college can handle full time work. (though i am working full time hours).
Finally about 6 months ago, 1 more full time position opens up. I hear through the grapevine that another part timer in the dept who is friends with the asst manager is getting it. I start to drop hints through the grapevine that if I get passed over again I walk. This time I get the position. After this there is quite a bit of turnover that occurs in the department and I end up being the 2nd most senior person behind my newly promoted asst manager (now mgr). All the previous full time outsiders have washed out of the company. The only one left is the burnt out guy who is extremely bitter that his friend got promoted and he didnt. His performance slides heavily and as a result my manager starts to rely on me a great deal and train me to be his second in command. We stage an intervention with the previously mentioned employee and get him back on track. I train the former sup to try to make him leadership material again. I am successful.
This arrangement of me helping run the dept preceeds for the next 4 months until my manager is told he is getting promoted and he tells me the "company" (note not him) wants me to succeed him. Great! Two weeks later I am told that the former supr is suddenly a major candidate as well. 2 weeks after that I find out the former supr has been fast tracked but I am told that "they will find something for me one way or another to move up into" but he is being considered because he has been with company longer and was an ex supr. I also find out my mgr has been meeting with this employee secretly and has been giving him special mgmt training and having him meet with the right people. The mgr keeps telling me to my face that I am the main candidate and that if I dont get picked he will transfer me as a supervisor to his new dept. But I think its because he wants me to keep helping him run things smoothly until he leaves then he could care less what happens.

So I am thinking that while the company likes my talent and success, my mgr likes to use it when things get rough to make him look good, but otherwise prefers to get his own friends favorable treatment. The former sup despises me because he cannot believe that some punk kid rose up past him when he has been working for the company for so many years. So if I get promoted he will probably leave and if he gets promoted I will probably leave.

So do I:
A. Stick it out and see what happens but possbily get burned (end up working for hated arch rival who is less qualified for the position)
B. Try to transfer out
C. Get a new job

Cliff notes:

Employee with lots of talent but young and relatively inexperienced
Trying to break into the "good ol boys" club
Used for talent while possibly getting backstabbed
What should I do?

are there any wise, trust-worthy senior people in the company you could ask advice from? People above your manager, or in human resources, or whatever?

 

[kranky]

What kind of operation is this? Retail?

It's possible that they don't think a college student will be able to properly handle a job with those responsibilities, but would like to keep you around until you graduate and then find a better position for you. Do you intend working at the company long-term?

With all the turnover that's going on, even if the arch-rival gets the job, who's to say he will be in it very long? Everything you posted took place in less than a year. Sounds like there could be plenty of other opportunities down the road.

Is it possible that you lack certain qualities for the job (due to inexperience, lack of training, etc.) which aren't apparent to you? You could be an excellent worker but still not be a good manager.

 

[Rapidskies]

I've never seen a organization, that has a good work environment, with the kind of turnover rate you are talking about. Are you really sure you want to work at this place long term?

 

[SagaLore]

A and C.

Stick it out and see what happens, but while you're waiting, starting putting in your resume at other places. Look around on monster.com for jobs in your area.

 

[Scarpozzi]

What's your pay? Do you feel you're being compensated for what you do? If you feel that you need more money and are unhappy, seek another job, otherwise...stick it out. The job market is still a little sketchy right now. Just remember, your boss will always look out for himself over you. It sounds like he is only interested in getting his people working under him and until you become one of those people, you'll have to wait your turn.

Remember that when new hires come from outside the company, they don't have to worry about refilling your position. That's why they tend to frown on internal promotions....don't take it personally.

 

[sixone]

Get the hell out now. You don't need this kind of aggravation at your age. Believe it or not, there are places where you can enjoy your job without the office politics taking over.

 

[shilala]

Build them a cake or something.

 

[Otaking]

Originally posted by: Keyvan

Originally posted by: white
look for a new job but keep working until you get an offer.

that's what I would do, in fact that's what I did do and I ended up finding a better job elsewhere. It also depends on whether you see yourself staying with this company in the long run.


Funny story about it actually, I ran into my boss' boss' boss (the district manager), and she actually recognized me and we chatted for a bit and I told her what happened, and although I'm sure she probably doesn't care, she wasn't impressed with the way they handled it because she kinda liked me. This happened yesterday, and I left this job about 2 weeks ago.

So... was she good in the sack?

 

[KingPhil]

Do you have PROVEN talent or just self-proclaimed talent?

I can claim to be an artist and have the ability to paint people........... but I didn't mention I can only paint stick figures.....

Alot of times in business, age is associated with experience. You say you are young and no experience............ that might be why you are being "passed over". Just might not be your time.

If you are feeling ripped by it, I'd go with option "C".

Or......... start making friends with management!!!!!!!!!

 

[jjones]

This company you work for, is it McDonald's or KFC?

 

[maziwanka]

get the fvck out of the company. they've been d!cking you around for a while man

 

[AnyMal]

Welcome to the corporate world. That's the way it has always worked. An executive at any level will seek out people they can personally trust, even if they may be less "technically" adept. I work in IT for a Fortune 100 company, and NO ONE in magement, including our immedite supervisors, have any IT training/knowledge whatsoever.

 

[Finalnight]

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