16 Year old cures cystic fibrosis for science fair.

zinfamous

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in silica study?

sure.

a preliminary, unpublished project being reported by the media?

lol.

ah, OK, there is some in vivo work. cells, anyway.
 
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Very promising.

I am always happy to read about those young bright kids bringing promising changes to daily life. ^_^
 

EvilYoda

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Hah...I love the mention of the 2nd place team making sorbet without gelatin. LOL
 

preslove

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in silica study?

sure.

a preliminary, unpublished project being reported by the media?

lol.

ah, OK, there is some in vivo work. cells, anyway.

Well, it's fox news. Reality and science have a leftwing bias, so Fox is just keeping things balanced with nonsense...
 

bignateyk

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Title is a little sensational. Promising treatment != cure. Sounds like a bright kid though.
 

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Well part of what TridenT says is right, these large science fair winners normally piggyback off of university level resources.

Not everyone has these resources available to them, but it does fucking mean these kids are bright.
 

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Title is a little sensational. Promising treatment != cure. Sounds like a bright kid though.

A little sensational? The title is just silly, but I guess the OP was trying to be cute. This is far from being a cure at this point.
 

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Well part of what TridenT says is right, these large science fair winners normally piggyback off of university level resources.

Not everyone has these resources available to them, but it does fucking mean these kids are bright.

Not really. A lot of the kids have parents that are university academic with established labs. They parents can come up with a sensible research project and just teach the kids the techniques. Lab work isnt very hard, it's just a bunch of pipetting and letting various machines do the work. I doubt the kid came up w/ the project all by himsef
 
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A little sensational? The title is just silly, but I guess the OP was trying to be cute. This is far from being a cure at this point.

Yeah I read OP title and go "Whoa wtf? Seriously? It can't be that easy..." Sure enough, my skepticism was well founded.
 

zinfamous

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Well part of what TridenT says is right, these large science fair winners normally piggyback off of university level resources.

Not everyone has these resources available to them, but it does fucking mean these kids are bright.

He was working on sort of a summer internship in a University lab. The PI has several potential projects out there, all related to various interests in the lab.

as a summer intern, this is very much the PI's project, and the kid--who is certainly smart, no doubt about it. And did good work--picked up this project b/c it was interesting to him.

it's a matter of what resources are available--the PI has been wanting to look at these models, just not enough people in lab, at the time, to tackle it. The kid probably never saw this software before working in the lab, so I imagine a lot of it was learning on the spot--not to mention much of the general book knowledge.

Typically, these can be junk projects, or a good idea that never pans out. Occasionally, something will work out and lead to further investigations, as with the project that this kid chose.

It's very likely that he also took over halfway through--lots of preliminary work done by an undergrad or previous grad student doing a rotation to feel out the lab.

Putting together a poster is a solid start, meaning there is certainly some good data. Publishing is a long ways off, though.
 

destrekor

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What did you do for your science fair? Potato battery?

I made sorbet. :biggrin:


Nah. In reality, we didn't really have a true science fair. At least, no fair in which I took part. However, for our Career & Technical program (my CCNA prep course was two blocks a day, and thus half my school day, for 4 semesters, so half my day for the entirety of my junior and senior years), my senior project was part of a team making a computer-driven robot with remote video monitoring.
 

destrekor

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Well, that's a hell of a lot better than the kid a few years ago who got 2nd place for building a fusion reactor, and first place being a study on eating blueberry pie.

wait, how did he build a fusion reactor, if nobody has yet to achieve controlled fusion?
Was it fusion but not self-sustainable, with no energy capture?
 

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I heard the interview CBC had with him and it did seem the kid was doing original work. Telecommuting no less.
 
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Farmer

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He was working on sort of a summer internship in a University lab. The PI has several potential projects out there, all related to various interests in the lab.

as a summer intern, this is very much the PI's project, and the kid--who is certainly smart, no doubt about it. And did good work--picked up this project b/c it was interesting to him.

it's a matter of what resources are available--the PI has been wanting to look at these models, just not enough people in lab, at the time, to tackle it. The kid probably never saw this software before working in the lab, so I imagine a lot of it was learning on the spot--not to mention much of the general book knowledge.

Typically, these can be junk projects, or a good idea that never pans out. Occasionally, something will work out and lead to further investigations, as with the project that this kid chose.

It's very likely that he also took over halfway through--lots of preliminary work done by an undergrad or previous grad student doing a rotation to feel out the lab.

Putting together a poster is a solid start, meaning there is certainly some good data. Publishing is a long ways off, though.

I guess my point is, there are many cases in higher level science fairs (like Siemens-Westinghouse or Intel Science Fair) where high school students seem to be presenting graduate level work.

Many interpret this to mean the kids are total geniuses, when in fact they simply tagged onto ongoing work at a university lab (given their education, probably at a level similar to a technician) and presented results from incremental work.

Not all kids have that resource or even know to pursue it (that is often the case). While these kids are certainly bright and such an accomplishment would look good on your college application, it doesn't mean they are the next Einstein. I'd be much more impressed with a solo effort or a father-son effort.
 

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Well, that's a hell of a lot better than the kid a few years ago who got 2nd place for building a fusion reactor, and first place being a study on eating blueberry pie.

Hmm so Ill make more money investigating why pie is delicious than advancing fusion reactors? What is the world coming to...
 

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I think it is reprehensible that anyone is reporting on something positive that a youth has accomplished. It is even more atrocious that the headline is sensationalized to try and sucker people into reading the article about this gifted teenager. The news should only be reporting on the Jersey Shore and Lindsey Lohan.
 

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Good for him. I hope it does lead to better treatment. I had a friend that died of Cystic Fibrosis, so I can only hope.
 

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OP Title was purposely sensationalized.

All the usual twits would quickly get their panties in a bunch, and complain as if ATOT should be a peer reviewed scientific journal.

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