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16 year drives drunk and kills 4 people and gets sentenced...

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paperfist said:
How does the kid get held in Mexico while the mother gets extradited right away?
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That's the part that pisses me off. The mom may have aided him in getting away, but he's the real criminal. She should get a slap on the wrist, and he should be the one doing hard time.
 
AznAnarchy99 said:
He'll just pay everyone off and live cushily
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If he is indeed considered a fugitive I'm pretty sure that the US Marshals will cut off his funding. You can only carry so much cash and I would be surprised if he has held onto much of it while being detained in Mexico.

What's daddy going to do, hire some coyotes to bring him a bag of cash every few months?
 
Darwin333 said:
I'm confused about this as well, maybe Don can chime in.
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if i remember right, there was a article saying her paperwork to hold her back didn't get processed soon enough before she was deported or something.

i take it this incident doesn't count either since it was in mexico?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/affluenza-teen-drank-strip-club-mexico/story?id=36099672

Before he was detained by Mexican authorities, "affluenza" teen Ethan Couch went to a Mexican strip club and racked up a huge tab, employees at the club tell ABC News.

Sources say Ethan Couch and his mother Tonya went to a strip club called Harem in Puerto Vallarta on the night of Dec. 23. According to club employees, the pair had drinks before Tonya Couch left the club. Ethan stayed at the club and employees told ABC News that he went off to a VIP room with two women who worked at Harem. Hotel and club employees said Couch was extremely drunk.

Couch racked up a $1,000 tab with entertainment that included lap dances and drinks, according to club employees, but was 6,000 pesos ($345) short.

In the early hours of Dec. 24, sources tell ABC News that a waiter at the club escorted Couch to his hotel when he could not pay the bill.

Neither Ethan nor Tonya Couch had the cash to pay the remainder of the bill so Ethan handed over his Rolex watch as a guarantee that he would repay his debt the next day, according to members of the club staff. The club was closed on Dec. 24 and Dec. 25. No one at the club saw either of the Couches ever again, they told ABC News.

Reports of Ethan drinking are significant since part of his probation from a deadly drunken driving crash in 2013 stipulated that he could not drink alcohol for the next 10 years.

PHOTO: The club Ethan Couch was allegedly spotted at in Mexico is seen here in this undated file photo. ABC
The club Ethan Couch was allegedly spotted at in Mexico is seen here in this undated file photo.

Hours after the strip club incident, the Couches moved into a condo in Puerto Vallarta without notifying the hotel.

On December 24th, the resort’s cleaning lady tried to get into the room to clean it all day but no one would answer and the “Do Not Enter” sign was on. The cleaning lady entered the room later in the day and realized they had left.
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takeru said:
if i remember right, there was a article saying her paperwork to hold her back didn't get processed soon enough before she was deported or something.

i take it this incident doesn't count either since it was in mexico?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/affluenza-teen-drank-strip-club-mexico/story?id=36099672
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Until he is transferred to adult probation at age 19, any probation violation as a juvenile is treated as a juvenile. And those violations won't matter once hes transfered to adult probation, ie: they cannot use those violation to make an adult violation more serious that said. Once he is in adult probation the judge has the discretion to sentence him to his full time, which is 4 consecutive 10 year terms. The odds of that happen are slim though. If he ever goes to prison the most he'll serve is 10 years with possibility of parole around year 6.
 
ponyo said:
I read his dad owns a metal roofing company with annual revenue of about 10 million dollars. So his dad probably clears about $1-2 million a year. So they're well off but not insanely rich.
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His dad isn't the one giving him money or supporting/indulging him.

Apparently the kids has an extremely odd relationship with his mother. If you read the the news about the psychological report done on him during his parents divorce well before the accident, the kid and mother are clearly screwed in the head and have a peculiar relationship.
 
An update on Affluenza Boy...

The Mexican lawyer for a Texas teenager who sought to use “affluenza” as a defense in a fatal drunken-driving accident says his client has dropped an appeal against deportation and will return to Texas to face charges in the coming days.
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He was probably getting sick of Mexican jails...lol! I hope he comes home with the screaming shits.
 
They need to get a real doctor to straighten out the fact that "affluenza" is a 100% made up excuse of a condition and is not even a real condition. He's simply a spoiled brat who thinks he's above the law because he's rich. Then again, that's how it works in America. As long as he is rich he will continue to live outside of prison, while people who do less serious crimes end up in prison because they arn't rich.
 
There's something wrong if fleeing the country to avoid prosecution isn't an additional violation in addition to violating probation.
 
Red Squirrel said:
They need to get a real doctor to straighten out the fact that "affluenza" is a 100% made up excuse of a condition and is not even a real condition. He's simply a spoiled brat who thinks he's above the law because he's rich. Then again, that's how it works in America. As long as he is rich he will continue to live outside of prison, while people who do less serious crimes end up in prison because they arn't rich.
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Nobody in the court system ever even said the word "affluenza". The shrink who said it never actually put it in writing or sent it to the court. Its a dumb word he uttered in a new interview and he never expected anybody to take it seriously or even remember it.

The so-called journalists latched on to it as a new buzzword to generate advertising revenue and kept hammering it in to the American public. They're the ones who said it was a defense.

All the psychiatrist said to the judge was the kid was so spoiled he had no clue how to be responsible.
 
shortylickens said:
Nobody in the court system ever even said the word "affluenza". The shrink who said it never actually put it in writing or sent it to the court. Its a dumb word he uttered in a new interview and he never expected anybody to take it seriously or even remember it.

The so-called journalists latched on to it as a new buzzword to generate advertising revenue and kept hammering it in to the American public. They're the ones who said it was a defense.

All the psychiatrist said to the judge was the kid was so spoiled he had no clue how to be responsible.
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Doesn't change one thing that red squirrel said though. Affluenza or not, it's a bullshit excuse. If the kid isn't responsible because the parents "spoiled" him so much that he didn't know better (bullshit), then the parents should go to jail for the deaths of the four people this prick killed.

Now, as far as I'm concerned, put them away and let them (parents and kid) all rot. Throw the judge in there too while you're at it.
 
DrPizza said:
There's something wrong if fleeing the country to avoid prosecution isn't an additional violation in addition to violating probation.
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agreed. I'm shocked that fleeing the country doesn't revoke having probation. he should be sitting in jail for the full term.

sad thing is he is going to get another slap on the wrist and in 2-3 years we will hear more about this kid.
 
waggy said:
agreed. I'm shocked that fleeing the country doesn't revoke having probation. he should be sitting in jail for the full term.

sad thing is he is going to get another slap on the wrist and in 2-3 years we will hear more about this kid.
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Maybe the gene pool will get lucky and we'll hear about him sooner when he ODs or drunk drives his car off a cliff.
 
Engineer said:
Doesn't change one thing that red squirrel said though. Affluenza or not, it's a bullshit excuse. If the kid isn't responsible because the parents "spoiled" him so much that he didn't know better (bullshit), then the parents should go to jail for the deaths of the four people this prick killed.

Now, as far as I'm concerned, put them away and let them (parents and kid) all rot. Throw the judge in there too while you're at it.
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It isn't an excuse. Even if that were a real affliction, and I'm not saying it is, but even if it were, it does not excuse the afflicted from culpability. Affliction or not, he should have been held responsible for his actions. It's unbelievable people are placing the blame for the outcome on a shrink when it's the criminal justice system that let this criminal go after he treated human beings as bowling pins with his SUV.

I never agreed with "not guilty by reason of insanity" either. If a schizophrenic stops taking his meds and kills a bunch of people, he should be held responsible for his actions that led to the deaths of innocent people. People not in control of themselves are more dangerous than people who are and make bad choices. They should be locked up so that they don't harm anyone else with their insane or irresponsible actions.

Sometimes I wonder if the judge just got paid.
 
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disappoint said:
It isn't an excuse. Even if that were a real affliction, and I'm not saying it is, but even if it were, it does not excuse the afflicted from culpability. Affliction or not, he should have been held responsible for his actions. It's unbelievable people are placing the blame for the outcome on a shrink when it's the criminal justice system that let this criminal go after he treated human beings as bowling pins with his SUV.

I never agreed with "not guilty by reason of insanity" either. If a schizophrenic stops taking his meds and kills a bunch of people, he should be held responsible for his actions that led to the deaths of innocent people. People not in control of themselves are more dangerous than people who are and make bad choices. They should be locked up so that they don't harm anyone else with their insane or irresponsible actions.

Sometimes I wonder if the judge just got paid.
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Remember that he was tried as a child. We are much more lenient on children especially if you can make a strong argument that his parents are to blame. It feel like a terrible miscarriage of justice here but when you think about it in the terms of a child that was not taught well it is at least understandable for the courts to try to rehabilitate him.
 
SMOGZINN said:
Remember that he was tried as a child. We are much more lenient on children especially if you can make a strong argument that his parents are to blame. It feel like a terrible miscarriage of justice here but when you think about it in the terms of a child that was not taught well it is at least understandable for the courts to try to rehabilitate him.
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I get this argument however if the court felt that strongly then they should have mandated & monitored long term psychological treatment until he is deemed to understand right from wrong.
The court dropped the ball on this.
 
SMOGZINN said:
Remember that he was tried as a child. We are much more lenient on children especially if you can make a strong argument that his parents are to blame. It feel like a terrible miscarriage of justice here but when you think about it in the terms of a child that was not taught well it is at least understandable for the courts to try to rehabilitate him.
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Fine, let's get a new law. If kids are to be spared punishment based on the theory that the parents are to blame, the parents have to serve the punishment. Maybe if a few rich assholes got to spend a life in prison for what their kids do the other rich assholes might get the message that it's their responsibility to teach their kids right from wrong.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Fine, let's get a new law. If kids are to be spared punishment based on the theory that the parents are to blame, the parents have to serve the punishment. Maybe if a few rich assholes got to spend a life in prison for what their kids do the other rich assholes might get the message that it's their responsibility to teach their kids right from wrong.
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I have a feeling more poor absent parent assholes would be spending time in jail
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I have a feeling more poor absent parent assholes would be spending time in jail
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BZZZT. No, poor kids don't get to buy their way out of jail like this assclown. They serve their own time. If rich parents want to make the argument that it's their fault their kid is a criminal they need to step up and take the rap. Four people died because of the failures in that household, SOMEBODY in that household needs to be held accountable.
 
SMOGZINN said:
Remember that he was tried as a child. We are much more lenient on children especially if you can make a strong argument that his parents are to blame. It feel like a terrible miscarriage of justice here but when you think about it in the terms of a child that was not taught well it is at least understandable for the courts to try to rehabilitate him.
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He was white and rich.
 
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