15yr old charged with murder over death of stillborn child . . .wait . . .

[ProfJohn]

Girl is now 20 years old and would have 4 kids if not for the one dying.

CLOSE YOUR FUCKING LEGS!

It is two different people.

The one with 3 kids is not the 15 year old.

 

[JSt0rm]

Alabama is like a 3rd world country.

 

[child of wonder]

It is two different people.

The one with 3 kids is not the 15 year old.

Thank FSM.

 

[werepossum]

You are right, if the law indeed considers the fetus to be a human life they should have probably charged her with negligent homicide. Then again, if the law considered a fetus to be human life then abortion, which is the intentional termination of the pregnancy, would indeed be murder. That is the fallacy of the courts decision, you simply can not have it both ways.

To some degree you can have it both ways. For instance, an adult can decide to pull the plug on a comatose parent. A stranger running through the ward yelling "Whee!", not so much. It is a thorny problem though, trying to protect the fetus while also recognizing the mother's right to control her own body. Ditto with fathers' rights versus fathers' responsibilities.

 

[Lanyap]

Alabama is like a 3rd world country.

Not quite, but we do have a lot of poor and uneducated folks, both black and white. I doubt that most if them will be able to do much better any time soon. Not many decent jobs for the truly poor. Farming has gone corporate and high tech, textile mills have closed as the work has been offshored. The state has done a good job of bringing in car manufacturing plants but they are looking for average and above workers. Most of these poor folks and their future generations will stay on welfare unless someone comes up with a viable solution to put them to work.

 

[Pulsar]

Not quite, but we do have a lot of poor and uneducated folks, both black and white. I doubt that most if them will be able to do much better any time soon. Not many decent jobs for the truly poor. Farming has gone corporate and high tech, textile mills have closed as the work has been offshored. The state has done a good job of bringing in car manufacturing plants but they are looking for average and above workers. Most of these poor folks and their future generations will stay on welfare unless someone comes up with a viable solution to put them to work.

Or they could try to better themselves the same way dirt-poor foreign immigrants do daily. You know, save every penny, send one to college, and so on.

Sorry, but it's not other people's job to 'put them to work' and that type of attitude has gotten us in a whole lot of hot water as it is.

 

[JockoJohnson]

Or they could try to better themselves the same way dirt-poor foreign immigrants do daily. You know, save every penny, send one to college, and so on.

Sorry, but it's not other people's job to 'put them to work' and that type of attitude has gotten us in a whole lot of hot water as it is.

Stop with your silly logic. It's much better to keep wasting tax payer money on them in the form of welfare.

 

[Jaskalas]

Alabama is like a 3rd world country.

Then you can stop sending aid to other nations, and use that money to feed the poor here in your own country first.

 

[ayabe]

To some degree you can have it both ways. For instance, an adult can decide to pull the plug on a comatose parent. A stranger running through the ward yelling "Whee!", not so much. It is a thorny problem though, trying to protect the fetus while also recognizing the mother's right to control her own body. Ditto with fathers' rights versus fathers' responsibilities.

An adult can sometimes decide to pull the plug - remember Schiavo. So there's gray areas there as well.

Not to mention that while someone can choose to end their partners/fathers whoever they have PoA for, they can't choose to end their own life in a humane, clinical environment.