Seriously, there's no need to thread crap like that. Have you guys ever actually owned a pair of A&F pants? I never used to buy stuff there, but after I recieved a pair of their cargo's for Christmas last year, I can honestly say that they are WAY better quality than most any others out there. The stuff is very expensive, but I really feel that it's worth it since there stuff will last alot longer than stuff from other places. Thanks DX-treme, not sure if I'll use this but I'm sure there's others who are.