14nm 6th Time Over: Intel Readies 10-core "Comet Lake" Die to Preempt "Zen 2" AM4

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TheELF

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Also skeptical about the Gen 11 igpu. I would rather see them devote the die space to more cores with a small igpu for basic use. Igpu is, and always will be, a marginal solution at best for gaming.
For gaming each additional core gives you less boost then the previous.
The 4c/8t is still the fastest gaming CPU together with it's more cored brothers.
Just blindly adding cores will not help with gaming,they might do that for productivity or just as a sales gimmick.
The iGPU on the other hand accelerates video conversion which is pretty popular,and it at least gives hope for dx12 at some time start using it for multigpu or something.
I have no idea about how much cuda and openGL is being used by people but there is that as well.
 

NTMBK

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Still skeptical about this. They talk about increased IPC, but it could be negated by lower clocks than 14nm. Also skeptical about the Gen 11 igpu. I would rather see them devote the die space to more cores with a small igpu for basic use. Igpu is, and always will be, a marginal solution at best for gaming.
The IGP is there because these are first and foremost laptop chips. You want a nice IGP to drive your 4K laptop display smoothly.
 

jpiniero

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Yeah I could see them cutting to GT1 on the 10 core to save space. That doesn't mean they will though.
 

Topweasel

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Media engines do that.
You don't need 64EUs.
Yeah I was going to say Quicksync helps but uses a specialized codec (and has limited settings for that) spun into the GPU but not the actual GPU core themselves. So outside dedicated Asic's, software (re:CPU) encoding is still the best encoding system and therefore driven by compute power of the CPU.
 

mikk

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Media engines do that.
You don't need 64EUs.

The Media engine uses the EUs as well while converting, it's a hybrid. And for HEVC TU1 and TU4 the current 24 EUs for Gen9 are not enough, it slows down quite a lot.
 
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The IGP is there because these are first and foremost laptop chips. You want a nice IGP to drive your 4K laptop display smoothly.
Even your typical desktop relies on the iGPU. Having one with excellent display/media engines is important.
 

TheGiant

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Even your typical desktop relies on the iGPU. Having one with excellent display/media engines is important.
support for HEVC codecs is very important today, saves a lot of power even on desktop

intel doesn't need to catch up lowest end discrete graphics imo, they are doing good job with the media and display capabilities...more important than some gaming performance...

but an improvement like more powerful 64 EUs ..that's nice
 
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support for HEVC codecs is very important today, saves a lot of power even on desktop

intel doesn't need to catch up lowest end discrete graphics imo, they are doing good job with the media and display capabilities...more important than some gaming performance...

but an improvement like more powerful 64 EUs ..that's nice
Agreed, integrated graphics can't be unusable for gaming; every PC needs to have some kind of reasonable baseline gaming performance.
 

kjboughton

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Image removed.

First of all, we do not allow images with no
commentary. Secondly, this was trolling.


If you want to discuss what Intel previously
said about AMD server CPUs, do so. However,
you can't just drop a pic of super glue and run.


AT Mod Usandthem
Bu a picture is worth 1000 words.
 

Mopetar

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Agreed, integrated graphics can't be unusable for gaming; every PC needs to have some kind of reasonable baseline gaming performance.
No one will ever be able to agree on what that baseline is or should be though and it will always be changing over time.

Is 720p at 30 FPS for 80% of the 20 most popular titles of a given year reasonable?
 


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