14 YO child prodigy becomes plaything for UAB football team.

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Yo Ma Ma

Lifer
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The team players would have all been adults I'm sure, oftein it seems some of them are almost mid-20's, while the girl was only 14/15. Sounds like it's worthy of criminal prosecution, as Pikachu indicated.
 

MichaelD

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The university will settle out of court for an undisclosed sum. The parents will then file suit against the 5 or 6 guys that their "Little Princess" can remember their names. The guys will deny everything. A video will turn up. They will plea bargain it down to Supplying Alcohol to a Minor, pay $150 in court costs and walk.
 

TonTo

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Holy shyt!
what the hell is wrong with those people?(college, players, resident advisors, and parents) that poor girl
 

freebee

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Now if it were the other way around, where 14 YO MALE child prodigy was the "plaything" for the college cheerleading squad it would be different now wouldn't it. I mean how many guys won't kill for a shot at that???
 

Servnya

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What pisses me off is that this sort of thing would have happened at ANY university across the nation, which reflects on society as a whole. 15?? :|
 

iamwiz82

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<< What pisses me off is that this sort of thing would have happened at ANY university across the nation, which reflects on society as a whole. 15?? :| >>



It does not represent society as a whole. It represents atheletes. It was never said thatother people did things to her.
 

Miramonti

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This happens to 18 year old girls also, but the question is 'what did the university promise the parents'. According to the parents they promised alot more than just entrance to the school, and they will have to be accountable to their commitments.

Also if it could be proven, the athletes should be charged for rape.

And the parents had no idea that there were problems for 1 1/2 years, they should be charged with child neglect! What were they thinking, they could send her away to a situation like that and not be more connected to her? Geez they didn't even know her grades.
 

Servnya

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<<

<< What pisses me off is that this sort of thing would have happened at ANY university across the nation, which reflects on society as a whole. 15?? :| >>



It does not represent society as a whole. It represents atheletes. It was never said thatother people did things to her.
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To say that it represents athletes is stereotyping athletes, IMO. While I am somewhat stereotyping "society", I do believe that this sort of thing would happen whether the offenders were athletes or not.
 

KBrinks

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THE KIDS 14.. hell i was a walking retard when i was 14.. if she was htat smart at such a young age, you'd think the parents would put her into some IV school.. or some privet protected school... i dont know.. the kid did do the crap on her own will.. yet i dont htink it's really the college's fault in gerneral...

it's like throwing your baby in dingo cage, only to get pissed of cuz the dingo ate your baby
 

MichaelD

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Oh yeah, Servnya's right. It would've happened no matter what group of men were involved. 15 year old slut, sure! But, because COLLEGE athletes (read: the University's bread & butter) are/were the alleged perpetraters (sp?) it was kept very hush-hush. She got hooked on drugs and booze, found that she could get all the drugs she wanted if she just laid there and spread her legs and she liked it. Case closed. These guys should be stripped naked, dipped in honey and locked in a gymsasium with 340,000 Africanized Killer Bees. For a week.
 

DonaldDuck82

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I hate to say this, but i am a college athlete, and I find it disgusting what goes on in the schools among the different kids, to be quite honest, the stereotypes are quite deserved and i feel awefull about what they did to this girl, sure she is partly responsible, but more so are the people who I am sure went out of their way to corrupt her
 

Thump553

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I think what shocks me most about this story is that universities (at least this one) don't have special programs & supervision for young children (under 16, say) that attend. No way I would send my young prodigy off to college without such a program.

I also find it dificult to believe that the parents had, apparently, so little contact with their daughter. The article was primarily their attorney's spin on things, but I think an enormous portion of the true story was omitted.
 

Doggiedog

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I'm sure there was probably some sort of organization on the part of the football team to get to this kid. There is no way she would go unnoticed by them.
 

cherrytwist

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<< cherrytwist - victimized? Whose choice was it for her to drink, do coke and morphine? I understand about the sex, cause she got liquored up before the first time, but then it looks like she started screwing them by choice. Don't say she was too young to make decisions, I was 15 two years ago and I knew damn well to stay away from the hardcore stuff. She obviously didn't make the right decisions, even though she should not have been subject to those kinds of things, but the parents shouldn't have been so blind to think she wouldn't have at least come in contact with alcohol >>



My point was specifically about the sex, but in general she was victimized by her parents (who sent a 14 year old off to college? wtf?) the school (according to the article they agreed to take special care of her) and the jocks in the dorm.

As far as the drug use goes, it's the snowball effect especially at that young of an age. But most 14 year olds aren't being raped by their dorm-mates while being (apparently) alienated by their parents while being expected to earn a high enough GPA to retain their scholarship b/c their a brain-child. I'm just saying everybody is making this girl out to be a coke-snorting slut when in reality she was a victim in this ordeal.
 

ChrichtonsGirl

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However worldly teenagers are these days, there's a reason why 18 is still considered the age of majority. I realize we have many mature, responsible teenagers here at AT, but seriously - you're the minority. An average 14 or 15 yr. old girl is simply not emotionally equipped to be dropped off at college, where she'll be exposed to sex, drugs and alcohol at the same time she's probably experiencing freedom from her parents for the first time.

I think there's plenty of blame to be spread around here. The girl's parents are pathetic - just because she was smart and enrolled in college, they didn't get to abdicate their responsibilities to the school. If it was my child, I'd damn well be there every other weekend or so, calling them a couple times a week and checking in with their advisors and friends. I'm not saying she still couldn't have hid what she was doing, but it sounds like they just dropped her off and expected the school to babysit.

The school should never have promised to babysit her, if that's actually what they did. If they promised her special treatment, then they should have delivered; and if they didn't, it was the parents' job to call them on it and make them keep their word. If coaches or advisors knew she was 14 or 15 and heard or knew that she was doing drugs, then I do think they had a responsibility to tell someone in Administration. I don't think they need to do that with every student, but from the report, it sounds like this girl was a pretty big deal to the school and that it was widely publicized how young she was. Her professors (who had to have known her age) should also have contacted her parents when her grades went south - I know when I was in college at 17, my parents got copies of my quarterly grades at home.

I do think the girl bears some responsibility too. Maybe not legally, but yes, morally. I don't think at 14 or 15 that she's old enough to be 100% responsible for herself yet, but she has to claim something. It doesn't sound like she was unwilling in any of this stuff - sounds like she spent a lot of time trashing her own life, which was foolish. But considering her age, she has a right to still be foolish. It was her parents who had the ultimate responsibility to see that she was making wise or at least informed choices. But she was old enough and smart enough that she had to have some idea that what she was doing was wrong and would damage her. How sad that she did it anyway.

As for the guys and drug dealers involved...they're disgusting and I hope if statutory rape charges apply in this state, that someone is looking into it. Athletes, chess club members or just plain Joes - if they knew her age and had sex with her anyway, then something's really wrong with them. I know there's a lot of talk lately about how athletes are out of control and I think there's some truth to it in general - but the same thing goes for them as it does for the girl. If their parents didn't teach them that having sex with a very young girl was wrong, then they're partly responsible too.

I hope "Jane Doe" can get her life back together. I have a feeling in ten years, she's going to have some serious problems with what she's done, if she isn't already. You can't take back the kinds of things she did and had done to her. If she hasn't managed to fry a few thousand brain cells with her drug and alcohol use already, she's going to have some serious emotional and self-esteem issues to work out over all the sex she had and now having her parents file a monster lawsuit and making it all public.

 

Pikachu

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Wow, DonaldDuck82 is a breathe of fresh air! I shake your hand for being so forthright in your comments. But you can't really say she was partly to blame. Honestly, if a 14 year old girl came on to you, would you... uh... you know? And if you did, what do you think the judge would say if you told him "she is partly responsible"? <Gulp>, I hate to even think what he would do to you!
 

gopunk

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Gifted kids with advanced placement beyond their years have very poorly developed social skills/street smarts. She entered university when most kids would have been in middle school/entering HS, she still needed help and supervision!

i'm not sure if i'd agree with that statement... the ones i know seem well adjusted to me. or at least most of them do. they're not as different as you might think though.

but agreed, people entering at a young age should get more guidance than just dropping them in the middle of a dorm and letting them go.
 

AndrewR

Lifer
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At her age, her parents should have had much better contact with the young lady. They are the ones really at blame. She was far too young to be left alone on a college campus at 14-15 years old.

Quick! Run for the hills!! I agree with Classy! ;)

Seriously, those were my thoughts exactly when I read the article. The parents are so shocked now yet they allowed this stuff to continue for over half a year without any notice that something was amiss? Excuse me? If she were 18-19, then it might be understandable (sort of a "let her spread her wings [or legs, as the case may be]" kind of thing), but she was 15-16!! Unbelievable.
 

iamwiz82

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if that was my child, no way in hell would i let her stay on campus, not a chance. Keep in mind that the parents sent her to this college because she got a FREE RIDE! Greed shows its ugly face.
 

FettsBabe

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A lot of drug addicts and alcoholics can hide their "problem" from those who they care about especially when they only talk to the child on the phone or only see the child on weekends. Her parent put her in the control of the university and the university should have known not to put her with college athletes. I am not "branding" athletes, but it is known that they do drink and party alot along with almost every other college student. To put her in the housing they did put them in serious liability because they should have kept her in a dorm. They are liable and in my opinion will probably settle out of court.
 

AndrewR

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A lot of drug addicts and alcoholics can hide their "problem" from those who they care about especially when they only talk to the child on the phone or only see the child on weekends.

But that's my point exactly -- they shouldn't have merely talked to the girl on the phone and seen her on weekends. Were I in that position (not that I would ever send a daughter to a large school at that age), I would have arranged for a mentor, be it an older student or a faculty member, to check in on her regularly, and I would have talked to that mentor weekly at least.

It was neglect for the parents to entrust the care of their daughter of that age to a large university, simply put. Now they are reeling from the results of that neglect and seek to place blame somewhere other than themselves. People wonder why the legal system has such a low standing within society, and it's only because people seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for their own actions by suing someone else. Case in point.
 

frizzlefry

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I believe the parents should have been more active in her education at the univ. I think there's the case of the 14 year old genius (memeber of mensa) that attended USC jsut this past year right? And I think the parents or some guardian always took her to class, and waited outside for her afterwards. This way she doens't have the opportunity to become associated with turds. Anyways, the parents are to blame for the demise of their child. Although the athletes and school should have reported it if they had known about it (we all know how politics sometimes work) the oens that actually had sex with her and gave her drugs should be castrated. I mean that's just sick. What does a 14 yo have that a regular 18+ doesnt? (hair maybe? but that can be arranged).....
 

phatcow

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Suuuuuure... blame others and not themselves. Its not the GIRLS fault she drank, fuked, and got high. Its her parents. Its the schools, its everybody else BUT the hand and body that did it to herself.

God dammit. Take some responsibility for your own damn actions.