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Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: Lanyap
Originally posted by: dphantom
I just can't imagine how anyone could possibly forget their child.

They are probably talking on their cell phones.

Or popping (legal) magic pills that make your worries go away.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Why waste time/resources to develop a device that would only save 25 measly lives?

If we can save just one life. Lets put 25 billion into this.
 

fallout man

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I came into this thread to say that the device you're looking for is "a brain," but I see that two posters with the same thought got here before me.
 

boomerang

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Well, the 'Got Milk?' ads seemed successful, how about 'Got Kid?'.

An ad campaign, bumper stickers, key chains, well, you get the picture. WalMart greeters can ask you as you come in the store, got your kids? Of course we'll have to have Spanish versions and bi-lingual greeters. This could blossom into a whole new industry. Maybe 'Got Kid' officers roaming parking lots to remind people and issue citations to help cover the expense.

Of course counseling will be needed for those that have actually had children die so that they may cope with the constant questioning. And for those that can't have children it will of course be heartbreaking, so they'll need counseling too.

Guidelines will have to be set on just how many times a person can forget their kids. Frequency, how many kids forgotten, weather conditions, etc. Lots of new legislation to draft. New governmental agencies. My god, THIS COULD PULL US OUT OF THE RECESSION!

But really, what price would be too great if we can prevent just one death. Darwin be damned! I say the time is now!

 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Well, the 'Got Milk?' ads seemed successful, how about 'Got Kid?'.

An ad campaign, bumper stickers, key chains, well, you get the picture. WalMart greeters can ask you as you come in the store, got your kids? Of course we'll have to have Spanish versions and bi-lingual greeters. This could blossom into a whole new industry. Maybe 'Got Kid' officers roaming parking lots to remind people and issue citations to help cover the expense.

Of course counseling will be needed for those that have actually had children die so that they may cope with the constant questioning. And for those that can't have children it will of course be heartbreaking, so they'll need counseling too.

Guidelines will have to be set on just how many times a person can forget their kids. Frequency, how many kids forgotten, weather conditions, etc. Lots of new legislation to draft. New governmental agencies. My god, THIS COULD PULL US OUT OF THE RECESSION!

But really, what price would be too great if we can prevent just one death. Darwin be damned! I say the time is now!

Or maybe we can use that money to save the US economy?

 

magreen

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Well, the 'Got Milk?' ads seemed successful, how about 'Got Kid?'.

An ad campaign, bumper stickers, key chains, well, you get the picture. WalMart greeters can ask you as you come in the store, got your kids? Of course we'll have to have Spanish versions and bi-lingual greeters. This could blossom into a whole new industry. Maybe 'Got Kid' officers roaming parking lots to remind people and issue citations to help cover the expense.

Of course counseling will be needed for those that have actually had children die so that they may cope with the constant questioning. And for those that can't have children it will of course be heartbreaking, so they'll need counseling too.

Guidelines will have to be set on just how many times a person can forget their kids. Frequency, how many kids forgotten, weather conditions, etc. Lots of new legislation to draft. New governmental agencies. My god, THIS COULD PULL US OUT OF THE RECESSION!

But really, what price would be too great if we can prevent just one death. Darwin be damned! I say the time is now!

LOL, I got a good laugh out of this.

Seriously, though. Did you people read the whole article I linked? It goes at length to discuss the science (at least one scientist's take on it) behind what happens to a person's brain that he/she could forget something like this. You're all correct that the device you need is a brain. But the brain stops working sometimes, according to him. It has something to do with hypnosis and is a failure of the brain to work properly, and it happens to normal, smart, conscientious people.

David Diamond, professor of molecular physiology:

"The quality of prior parental care seems to be irrelevant," he said. "The important factors that keep showing up involve a combination of stress, emotion, lack of sleep and change in routine, where the basal ganglia is trying to do what it's supposed to do, and the conscious mind is too weakened to resist. What happens is that the memory circuits in a vulnerable hippocampus literally get overwritten, like with a computer program. Unless the memory circuit is rebooted -- such as if the child cries, or, you know, if the wife mentions the child in the back -- it can entirely disappear."

Take a look. I don't think many of you are thinking about this seriously enough. I also suspect some of you aren't parents and aren't capable of seeing, or haven't made the effort to see, the gravity of this. Don't forget, with 133 deaths per year, there's 10 times more cases that don't fit into that category. Just how many times did they bring a baby to the hospital in serious condition and he was saved (but with brain damage), or near-miss cases which were never reported (which parent is going to tell the authorities that they did that to their child?) because the the spouse happened to call and he realized before it was too late?

 

magreen

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: magreen
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Why waste time/resources to develop a device that would only save 25 measly lives?

I updated the OP that it's 133 kids/yr in US according to http://www.thingamababy.com/ba...007/07/babysafety.html

Your stat of 133 kids/yr includes all kids killed by being left alone in a car/near a car.

Hmmm. It does seem that way. It's hard to isolate the heat related cases. Of course acc. to their latest data it's more like >150 total deaths per year, and even 188 in 2007. Text
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: magreen
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: magreen
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Why waste time/resources to develop a device that would only save 25 measly lives?

I updated the OP that it's 133 kids/yr in US according to http://www.thingamababy.com/ba...007/07/babysafety.html

Your stat of 133 kids/yr includes all kids killed by being left alone in a car/near a car.

Hmmm. It does seem that way. It's hard to isolate the heat related cases. Of course acc. to their latest data it's more like >150 total deaths per year, and even 188 in 2007. Text

Any of the numbers you have posted all equal the same thing....statistical insignificance. Pay more attention and get off your fucking cell phone. Why should the OVERWHELMING majority of responsible parents now pay a higher price for car seats because of a small handful of dumbasses? This world is going to shit, but not for the reasons most believe.
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: dphantom
I just can't imagine how anyone could possibly forget their child.

Seriously, these people must be seriously absent minded or just careless. Or retarded. Or all of above.
 

Possessed Freak

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Approximately 4000 people in the US die by drowning each year, I say we all be forced to wear flotation devices at all times to minimize these risks. This can not continue, in the 1-4 year age-group, about 500! die each year to drowning. We must make more buoyant toddlers!

Linky
 

Vette73

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Something I don;t think I saw was how many of these "accidents" were not accidents?

Good way to get rid of a kid and play the grief card. Kinda like cutting a tree down and by accident hitting your wife right in the throat and she dies. :evil:

I have an 11 week old son and also don;t know how anybody could forget their kid.
 

StageLeft

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Holy fvck, sh*ty parent alert, I can't believe it happens that much.

I don't think you could be as susceptible. Just because somebody seems responsible doesn't mean that they are not, overall, a douche who is self-centered and or habitually distracted. I don't think the average parent is at all susceptible to this kind of thing.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Holy fvck, sh*ty parent alert, I can't believe it happens that much.

I don't think you could be as susceptible. Just because somebody seems responsible doesn't mean that they are not, overall, a douche who is self-centered and or habitually distracted. I don't think the average parent is at all susceptible to this kind of thing.

Oh Pooh!! With stress and lack of sleep you would be the one to put the baby in the oven and the turkey in the bath water.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I saw something on the news a couple of years ago. They suggested when you get into the car to put your cell phone in your back seat.

That way if you leave your kid by accident, you'll remember your cell-phone and go get it. :|

That's obnoxious...

I can't even fathom forgetting my child in the car, it's beyond irresponsible and idiotic.

The sad thing is, devices which detect and prevent this may some day become mandatory, creating a crutch rather than making people be responsible for their offspring...

But ridiculously stressful days happen to everybody, especially parents (!), even good parents, and it only takes one time for the worst to happen.
Wrong...this does not happen to good parents. A good parent realizes they need to watch over their child and care for them 24x7. Anyone who could forget their child and not realize it for a long enough period of time that they die in the heat is not a good parent, whether it be a slip-up or typical of their behavior. Anyone who knowingly leaves their child in a scorching hot car thinking "I'll be right back" is not a good parent and is lazy or careless. It happens as a result of a lack of responsibility and that is something you need to have at all times to be a good parent. It's just a shame a child has to lose a life because some complete idiot either got wrapped up in something else or was just neglegent. These idiots will live on another day to reproduce...
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Why waste time/resources to develop a device that would only save 25 measly lives?

If we can save just one life. Lets put 25 billion into this.

Yeah fuck everyone else...

... Except yourself, right? Entitled American ideology.

Please grow up you fucking douchebag.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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How many of these are less just forgetting and more not wanting to mess with getting a carseat out of the back of the car that turns into I just forgot when the cops show up?
 

Muse

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there must be some device to remind you of your child in the carseat!

Yes, that device is your mind. That failing, the court system.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Lanyap
Originally posted by: dphantom
I just can't imagine how anyone could possibly forget their child.

They are probably talking on their cell phones.

From the article:

What kind of person forgets a baby?

The wealthy do, it turns out. And the poor, and the middle class. Parents of all ages and ethnicities do it. Mothers are just as likely to do it as fathers. It happens to the chronically absent-minded and to the fanatically organized, to the college-educated and to the marginally literate. In the last 10 years, it has happened to a dentist. A postal clerk. A social worker. A police officer. An accountant. A soldier. A paralegal. An electrician. A Protestant clergyman. A rabbinical student. A nurse. A construction worker. An assistant principal. It happened to a mental health counselor, a college professor and a pizza chef. It happened to a pediatrician. It happened to a rocket scientist.

I can see how this happens as I once forgot to pick my kids up after school. The wife (who usually picked them up) was out of town for the day. I had one unexpected errand to run and then got detoured a couple of times after that and somehow I totally forgot about getting the kids?? Not until I got home and nobody was there did I remember and ran to school. I was over 2 hours late but there were my two girls waiting for me and they were NOT too happy.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
How many of these are less just forgetting and more not wanting to mess with getting a carseat out of the back of the car that turns into I just forgot when the cops show up?

I wouldn't doubt this for a second.
 

magreen

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
15-25 parents kill 133 kids per year? How do you accidentally kill 5 kids per year?
haha

you make them read the brainiacs posting in this thread ;)