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[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
marry her, she will be legal.

barring that she needs to find a company that will sponser er and prove that they cannot find the same talent for the job by hiring an american citizen.

Not that easy anymore. You also cannot get a new sponsership while still in the country, she could 'arrange' one, leave and come back. There are a few problems with this. She will have no recent 'check in' date (assuming at 10 there wasn't one)....she may not even have a passport currently. This may affect her leaving and coming back. She also will have a problem with taxes and if she is working. Claiming illegal aliens is done on taxes sometimes....never makes them legal though.

She is going to need to hire an attorney more than likely and figure out what her best approach is.

I married a woman how came from Japan on H-1B and it was still problematic. Our 1st interview got bumped back over 1 year, we got this little 18/19yo (looked that way), gum smacking, ebonics speaking, short girl dressed in what appeared to be a micro mini 'club wear' suit. My attorney and I had a hard enough time understanding her, yet alone my wife. She didn't ask (axe) us any questions, we had to sort of steer the whole interview. You are sort of in their hands.

Anyways she made this big deal where she had all this 'dots' and 'subpishins' about us so rescheduled another interview, before we left we handed her this huge folder of joint acccounts, pictures, etc that she kept saying she 'don't needs that right now'....our next interview went ok as far as getting the green card granted....however, she had games this time too.

Also the girl's Nationality will play largely on how easy or hard it will be for her. If she is Canadian....it's usually not so bad, if she is from Iraq or North Korea, etc...then it's going to be severely more difficult. As a minor she may have had better luck, however, then that may (and may still) implicate her other relatives. This is why people who are here illegally usually stay here illegally.

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[Savij]

She should probably talk to an attorney (a good one, there are a lot that try to rip people off) that specializes in immigration issues. The fact that her uncle (and maybe father) are legal will probably help her out. I'm sure that there's got to be something that she can do, but it would be best if she got advice from experts instead of the ATOT village of xenophobes, xenos and peanut gallery.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
she is an adult. no longer her parents mistake.

and being illegal is no mistake it is a conscience effort to break the law!!

agreed


i find it interesting how the law becomes irrelevant when it's someone we are close to.

illegal is illegal.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Imdmn04

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I am lucky, yes indeed. My grandparents came here for a better life. They came here legally, and followed all the law, learned the language and worked their asses off for a better life.

At the end of the day illegal is illegal. and There are hospitals that are going bankrupt from treating illegals and schools that cannot teach and get passing grades cause the students dont speak the language. There are people who came her efrom other countries that are working their assess off and getting screwed on taxes to educate, and give medical treatment to illegals.

This is the greatest country on the planet. no doubt. and anyone who wants to come here and have a better life should be welcomed and aided in all ways possible... provided they are here legally. If they are here illegally, they are law breakers and they need to get legal or get out. end of story.

It is a lot more difficult to move here now legally than back in the day when your grandparents did. The only legal ways that you can move here legally is either invest at least 1 million dollars in United States, marrying someone of U.S. Citizenship/be directly related to somone who is american or go through the academic route which u goto undergrad, grad and get a professional degree, and hopefully someone hires you because of your education.

Tell me some of the chances of a third world person might have outta these choices compared to 100 years ago when America basically let everybody in who wanted work, educated or not. If you offered these people the crappiest jobs here, I bet they are still more than willing to have a chance to work in America. But they dont even have an oppurtunity to work at the crappiest jobs in America these days like the earlier immigrants did.

and all this justifies illegal immigration how??

again, illegal is illegal. there are a host of problems illegals cause and all of that is paid for out of tax dollars.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
she is an adult. no longer her parents mistake.

and being illegal is no mistake it is a conscience effort to break the law!!

agreed


i find it interesting how the law becomes irrelevant when it's someone we are close to.

illegal is illegal.

Your parents rob a guy and implant his wallet in your abdomen when you are 10 years old. It's discovered when you're 20. Are you an accomplice to the crime?

 

[rudder]

Wow, 29 replies and no one has yet to ask for :camera:'s. This is an ATOT record.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
she is an adult. no longer her parents mistake.

and being illegal is no mistake it is a conscience effort to break the law!!

agreed


i find it interesting how the law becomes irrelevant when it's someone we are close to.

illegal is illegal.

Your parents rob a guy and implant his wallet in your abdomen when you are 10 years old. It's discovered when you're 20. Are you an accomplice to the crime?

not if you return it as soon as it's discovered.

she has been illegal as an adult for 2 years. don't tell me it's because she never knew.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
she is an adult. no longer her parents mistake.

and being illegal is no mistake it is a conscience effort to break the law!!

agreed


i find it interesting how the law becomes irrelevant when it's someone we are close to.

illegal is illegal.

Your parents rob a guy and implant his wallet in your abdomen when you are 10 years old. It's discovered when you're 20. Are you an accomplice to the crime?

not if you return it as soon as it's discovered.

she has been illegal as an adult for 2 years. don't tell me it's because she never knew.

She might have known, talked to INS and is awaiting a response. It's been a couple of years since I've dealt with them, but the time (they stated) to respond to any requests was six months and they are notorious for taking much longer. (My own natuarlization took an extra 4 years because 1. INS lost forms 2. INS did not respond to requests about my family's forms in a timely fashion (i.e. it took longer than the 6 months they said it would for them to get back to us) 3. INS refused to allow a second application while they searched for what happened to the first set of forms. 4. INS declared the forms lost and told us to go back to step 1 and deposit another $200.

 

[Savij]

I looked through some of my old paper work...this stuff is over ten years old so do your own research on it...it says that if either of her parents is legal and she's under 21 then she might actually be legal now...Just needs to fill out a form and pay the money

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: zimu

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: ajpa123
I would advise her enter a career track that is in high demand right now like pharmacy if she can find a good university that will overlook her status. That will help her if there is ever a chance of deportation..pharmacists are in demand so bad it's unreal. This maybe unrealistic, but it's the only thing i can think of.

There are colleges that will overlook illegal status?

:Q

i'm surprised about that too... is this true?

Yes, here in Texas they don't care. You are classified as an undocumented student and just pay the international/out of state tuition.

Found this while searching for it. Maybe the tuition law has changed.

http://www.tamiu.edu/article4.html

No registration fees are due until January and new exemptions allow visa holders and undocumented aliens to be charged in-State tuition under House Bill 1403, which provides them an opportunity to attend a university and pay in-state tuition.

Also, a year ago I remember reading a post by someone who had a friend from Bangladesh who was in a similar situation as your friend. He was deported.

 

[Zombie]

eh, she will be just fine if the proposed Immigration laws go thru. I am sure she will be able to get in with Guest Workers visa and then go to legal status.

 

[cpals]

Originally posted by: Zombie
eh, she will be just fine if the proposed Immigration laws go thru. I am sure she will be able to get in with Guest Workers visa and then go to legal status.

I haven't heard anything about that.

 

[psydancerqt]

who works for the tobacco companies picking tobacco? legal citizens? guess again

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
she is an adult. no longer her parents mistake.

and being illegal is no mistake it is a conscience effort to break the law!!

agreed


i find it interesting how the law becomes irrelevant when it's someone we are close to.

illegal is illegal.

Your parents rob a guy and implant his wallet in your abdomen when you are 10 years old. It's discovered when you're 20. Are you an accomplice to the crime?

That's quite possibly the stupidest fvcking analogy I've ever heard.

 

[Vic]

Deport.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

In spite of the fact that a lot of people here seem to have a moral on/off switch, this is a tricky issue that, to me, deserves sensitive handling. The fact of the matter is that this person was brought here as a child, and her entire world (friends, family, etc) are in the US. She may not even speak Spanish, or know anyone in Mexico or wherever she's from. The hardliners here seem to feel she has a moral obligation to either turn herself in to INS or just leave the country. I respectfully disagree.

 

[bigalt]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
she is an adult. no longer her parents mistake.
and being illegal is no mistake it is a conscience effort to break the law!!

agreed
i find it interesting how the law becomes irrelevant when it's someone we are close to.
illegal is illegal.

though i'm on the fence about illegal immigrants, how can you put blind faith in someone else's laws that say stuff like, "In Idaho, the law states all boxes of candy given as romantic gifts must weigh more than 50 pounds."

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
who works for the tobacco companies picking tobacco? legal citizens? guess again

you are confusing legal citizen with visa holders.

I am not saying all tobacco pickers have a visa, but my guess is there are enough that do.

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[alkemyst]

I wanted to add some things about immigrants and visas.

As a non-american:

You don't need a visa to be in America, you need one to be here legally. Your citizenship could also mean the difference of a easy deportation and a probing one.

You don't usually need to provide a student visa to attend a college if you are paying the out of state/international rate. They are supposed to check, but they are not the INS....most of the time they don't care as long as you don't cause problems and pay your fees. However, if the INS finds out all bets are off.

Getting married only means you are married to an illegal alien....certain visas also do not grant marriage as a reason to stay. Sometimes getting married on those types of visas can have you deported and barred for a longer time than if you were just here illegally.

You can be in american for years and years illegally...you are still illegal. It doesn't matter if you have a huge homestead, 20 kids, 100 employees, your ass goes on the boat or plane...

These things all seem unfair from an emotional point-of-view, but that's the way it works. The sadder part is usually even if you can get a visa after the fact you must do it outside the country you want in to....a lot of times it must be done in your own country. Many times there is also a waiting period to do this after the fact, something measured in years.

The government doesn't care if you can't speak your own language or know your own customs....all they care about is will your country kill you if they send you back.

The gist of this is what someone thinks is right and what the law states, especially on Immigration issues, are usually polar opposites.

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[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: bigalt

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
she is an adult. no longer her parents mistake.
and being illegal is no mistake it is a conscience effort to break the law!!

agreed
i find it interesting how the law becomes irrelevant when it's someone we are close to.
illegal is illegal.

though i'm on the fence about illegal immigrants, how can you put blind faith in someone else's laws that say stuff like, "In Idaho, the law states all boxes of candy given as romantic gifts must weigh more than 50 pounds."

Well if it's a law you can ask for it to be enforced. Then they will look at it in court and judge on it. Chances are only one person got nailed with that law and it made the 'books'. There are tons of laws called Blue laws that are pretty unconstitutional but enforced strictly.

Bottom line is a law is a law. Doesn't have to be enforced though.

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