120 Hz monitors

[skuzzzzy]

is the "LG W2363D" more superior to the "samsung 2233RZ" as far as color, input lag and less backlight bleeding/bad pixels?

both only have a year warranty, i can get the samsung for $292 or the lg for $354, whats the better buy as far as gaming quality? not looking at the asus because the screen has a mirror finish and is real glosy, i dont think the lg is and i know the samsung isnt.

 

[soybeast]

Everything else being equal, at 120+ fps, 120hz certainly does make a noticeable difference.

Also, I have a radeon 4850 and it most definitely cannot output > 120+ fps at any resolution above 1680x1050 in Bad Company 2, which means you wouldn't be able to tell the difference on a setup like that, which could explain previous poster's inability to appreciate the extra hz.

 

[Nintendesert]

is the "LG W2363D" more superior to the "samsung 2233RZ" as far as color, input lag and less backlight bleeding/bad pixels?

both only have a year warranty, i can get the samsung for $292 or the lg for $354, whats the better buy as far as gaming quality? not looking at the asus because the screen has a mirror finish and is real glosy, i dont think the lg is and i know the samsung isnt.

The Samsung has a max resolution of 1680 x 1050 while the LG is 1920 x 1080 and only 1 DVI on the Samsung. The LG has DVI and 2 HDMI. The only bad review the LG had was from a Radeon user that didn't realize he couldn't do 3d gaming on it. He'd need the ViewSonic one for that.

 

[tyl998]

So like...for people playing the newest and latest games at max settings (or Crysis), would a 120 hz monitor help? I mean if my 4xAA, 1920x1080 ultra textures dynamic shadows settings are only giving me 50 fps anyways...should I care about the 120 hz max refresh rate?

 

[toyota]

a 120hz screen has much less judder when looking around in games or even just dragging a window. that alone is a good reason to go with one.

 

[skuzzzzy]

So like...for people playing the newest and latest games at max settings (or Crysis), would a 120 hz monitor help? I mean if my 4xAA, 1920x1080 ultra textures dynamic shadows settings are only giving me 50 fps anyways...should I care about the 120 hz max refresh rate?

i wouldnt, unless you play old games or want 3d.

 

[Vdubchaos]

a 120hz screen has much less judder when looking around in games or even just dragging a window. that alone is a good reason to go with one.

Yea, let me spend 2x the money for "better" dragging window capabilities.....lmao

3d is worthless to me and I play 0 old games.

 

[toyota]

Yea, let me spend 2x the money for "better" dragging window capabilities.....lmao

3d is worthless to me and I play 0 old games.

I was talking about for gaming it would be worth it. I was just saying that it is also very noticeable just when dragging a window.

 

[Dribble]

Question to you 2 experts. Does Killer xeno helps?

If that's aimed at me I'm no expert, just read stuff over the years
Doubt a custom ethernet card would help but never used one - iirc reviews never really showed anything.

 

[thedosbox]

I just threw that in, friend has a 120hz monitor (I believe it's Acer or Asus, don't remember)

Tell your friend to (a) try running the game with vsynch on and (b) ensure the video card output is at 120Hz. He'll find it's a much smoother experience than trying the same with a monitor @ 60Hz.

If he's someone who doesn't notice tearing @60Hz with vsynch disabled, I'd question why he bought a 120Hz monitor in the first place.

 

[zerocool84]

I was talking about for gaming it would be worth it. I was just saying that it is also very noticeable just when dragging a window.

Yup, people saying it's worthless obviously haven't used a 120Hz monitor. It helps in all situations. Windows is so damn smooth with it and gaming on true 120Hz makes it feel like a new game. Everything is so damn smooth, it looks unreal. I really wish many times I hadn't gone back to my 60Hz monitor as I miss 120Hz but I'll buy another one next year when better quality panels are being used for 120Hz.

 

[skuzzzzy]

Yup, people saying it's worthless obviously haven't used a 120Hz monitor. It helps in all situations. Windows is so damn smooth with it and gaming on true 120Hz makes it feel like a new game. Everything is so damn smooth, it looks unreal. I really wish many times I hadn't gone back to my 60Hz monitor as I miss 120Hz but I'll buy another one next year when better quality panels are being used for 120Hz.

how is windows better with 120hz? im looking at buying the samsung or lg tonight but only because of screen tearing in games. dont see how 120hz helps for non screen tearing things.

 

[zerocool84]

how is windows better with 120hz? im looking at buying the samsung or lg tonight but only because of screen tearing in games. dont see how 120hz helps for non screen tearing things.

In Windows, everything is so smooth. Dragging windows, scrolling, watching videos, everything looks smoother. In games though, if you can't push that many frames per second, you won't notice the 120Hz but in games that you can, it looks weird at first cus you've never seen anything that smooth. If you don't already have a decent monitor definitely get a 120Hz, but if you do, I'd wait a while. I never used 3D either as I didn't care about it nor could I anyways.

 

[skuzzzzy]

In Windows, everything is so smooth. Dragging windows, scrolling, watching videos, everything looks smoother. In games though, if you can't push that many frames per second, you won't notice the 120Hz but in games that you can, it looks weird at first cus you've never seen anything that smooth. If you don't already have a decent monitor definitely get a 120Hz, but if you do, I'd wait a while. I never used 3D either as I didn't care about it nor could I anyways.

i had this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236046
sold it tonight, only a 17" pos crt currently. mainly buying it for cs 1.6, has such horrible tearing.

i cant find any bad stuff on the lg 120hz monitor and was going to order it but everyone on other forums keep saying the lg sucks and to get the acer. im reading nothing but problems with the acer though.

lg has also got a mode called "tru mode" which makes the monitor have 0ms but im unsure if this will damage the monitor if left on 24/7.

 

[Seero]

I am not quite sure what you are trying to say with this, are you going on a tangent? contradicting me? confirming what I said?
please explain.

But if we are getting technical... vision is based on receptors in the eye, which have a limited resolution (and vastly differing resolution at different areas of the eye and different area of focus and different color bands).

Furthermore, vision is the measurement of EMR at various frequencies, and the smallest unit of an EMR is a single photon, of which there is a finite and specific amount.

Reality doesn't refreshes. So if you spend some time looking away from the monitor, you can easily detect differences from 60hz to 120hz. 3D however, is a completely different thing where it does take time to see 1 image instead of 2.

Move a window across another window and you can see the tearing of the edge on 60hz, but not on 120hz. In fact, you can see the difference by simply move the mouse cursor.

Watching blueray without motion-blur will actually show how bad motion-blur is. On 120hz monitor, everything that moves appears to be independent to the background, which is much more realistic (or fake). Once you have seen it, you can judge whether the movie is on blueray or not, motion-blur or not, and 60hz or 120hz.

It takes thousand words to describe, but you can go to future shop (or any shops that sells 120hz tv right beside some other 60hz tv) and see the difference(yes it has to play some blueray movie with motion-blur off). Monitor on the other hand is much easier to see, but it has to be side by side with another 60hz monitor or you won't know if it is the monitor or the video card that makes the difference.
(Well you can manually switch the refresh rate and move windows on top of other windows.)

 

[tweakboy]

Nah 120hz means smoother framerates higher framerates and you can enable vsync and not get any 60hz lag......... Buying a new monitor now adays and being a gamer, you should be lookin into 120hz ,, cuz 60hz blows goat.

Which is why I have my CRT still going strong..and when that dies which has been 10 years then I will buy a 120hz 2560res 27 incher by that time for a good price...

People who say its tv hype or its bs dont jknow jack sh*T about nothing, and need to back off and educate themselves,,, 120hz refreshes per second instead of 60hz means higher smoother framerates no lag FPS gaming smooth video watching Ive seen it in action showing a demo of 120hz and 240hz compared to 60hz at Fry's ... big diff,,,,,,,its lifelike movement its smoother,,,thank you gg and gl and gb

 

[zerocool84]

i had this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236046
sold it tonight, only a 17" pos crt currently. mainly buying it for cs 1.6, has such horrible tearing.

i cant find any bad stuff on the lg 120hz monitor and was going to order it but everyone on other forums keep saying the lg sucks and to get the acer. im reading nothing but problems with the acer though.

lg has also got a mode called "tru mode" which makes the monitor have 0ms but im unsure if this will damage the monitor if left on 24/7.

I had the Acer for a little over a month but sold it cus it's viewing angles were poor and had bad blacklight bleeding. I'd get the Asus or Alienware as those are the highest rated and have the least amount of problems but they are obviously the most expensive.

 

[toyota]

I would buy a 120hz monitor but they still have all the other downsides of my current monitor.

 

[Sylvanas]

After going 120hz there's no going back. It was like night and day the moment I switched to 120hz- even on the desktop. 10/10 for the Alienware

 

[Dribble]

Acer has at least 15ms input lag, avoid.

 

[Petey!]

/facepalm to all the people still talking about 120hz on TVs

 

[Seero]

/facepalm to all the people still talking about 120hz on TVs

I don't think alienware sells tv, and LG W2363D is a monitor.

 

[Canbacon]

Exiting news for people waiting for an IPS 120Hz monitor. Mitsubishi is about to release the VISEO MDT231WG. Too bad it seems like it is going to be a 1920x1080 monitor.

Source

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Exiting news for people waiting for an IPS 120Hz monitor. Mitsubishi is about to release the VISEO MDT231WG. Too bad it seems like it is going to be a 1920x1080 monitor.

Source

ZOMG!!! ugh, while its awesome hear about a 120Hz IPS, I hate news about new monitors because it takes FOR-F***ING-EVER for the monitor to actually make it to market. We knew about Viewsonics new 120Hz monitor for almost a year now and it still isn't available. These r-tard monitor manufactures need to start following video card lead and start doing some hard launches.

I love the no-frills design of the Mitsubishi MDT231WG, seriously, there's no need for a goofy looking bezel, keep it thin and keep it clean, this monitor already destroys most all of the other 120Hz monitors in that regard, and its IPS...I guess the TN panels need a flashy looking bezel to distract users from the less than stellar picture

 

[Worthington]

Agreed. I was hoping to hold out till i could find them in a different flavor then TN. Sadly, the death of what was my second monitor sped things up a bit. I'd love to see a 19x12 IPS panel make it to the US market.