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12 year-old girl fatally shoots mother after being grounded

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'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.
 
Originally posted by: Arkitech
where are the parents who don't believe in spankings? I'll bet if she had a few whippings instead of time outs she'd be ok.

My parents believed a few whippings would work instead of time outs... and my dad got stabed 7 times in the back for it. I won't justify what my brother did, but don't assume one way of disipline is any better then the other.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.

thats a ludacrous claim.
gasoline and a match, A steak knive, axe, syringe filled with bleach, rat poison, baseball bat, hammer....god the list goes on and on.....by your claims there shoudl not have been many(if any) murders before the invention of the gun
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Arkitech
where are the parents who don't believe in spankings? I'll bet if she had a few whippings instead of time outs she'd be ok.

If they had whacked her over the head with an axe it most definently wouldn't have happened.

Dude, you need to consolidate your responses into one reply, instead of making 5 different posts responding to 5 different things. Just a thought 😉

As others have stated, I'd like to know where she got the gun...
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Arkitech
where are the parents who don't believe in spankings? I'll bet if she had a few whippings instead of time outs she'd be ok.

If they had whacked her over the head with an axe it most definently wouldn't have happened.

Dude, you need to consolidate your responses into one reply, instead of making 5 different posts responding to 5 different things. Just a thought 😉

As others have stated, I'd like to know where she got the gun...

It's all about the post count 😉
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: deathkoba
'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.

thats a ludacrous claim.
gasoline and a match, A steak knive, axe, syringe filled with bleach, rat poison, baseball bat, hammer....god the list goes on and on.....by your claims there shoudl not have been many(if any) murders before the invention of the gun

It's not ludicrous. All of those weapons or things that can be used as weapons aren't really projectiles dedicated to the act of penetration and destruction. The kid would need to get near her mother and physically 'try' and assault her, which could've resulted in a much less severe following. A gun would make that part much too easy. But you already knew that. Don't be stupid.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: deathkoba
'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.

thats a ludacrous claim.
gasoline and a match, A steak knive, axe, syringe filled with bleach, rat poison, baseball bat, hammer....god the list goes on and on.....by your claims there shoudl not have been many(if any) murders before the invention of the gun

It's not ludicrous. All of those weapons or things that can be used as weapons aren't really projectiles dedicated to the act of penetration and destruction. The kid would need to get near her mother and physically 'try' and assault her, which could've resulted in a much less severe following. A gun would make that part much too easy. But you already knew that. Don't be stupid.

It is ludicrous because it only takes one strike from behind with any of the weapons mentioned and it's all over. How hard is it for a daughter to get behind her mother? Better yet, she could slip poison into her mothers food. Your ease of murder theory is full of cracks.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: deathkoba
'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.

thats a ludacrous claim.
gasoline and a match, A steak knive, axe, syringe filled with bleach, rat poison, baseball bat, hammer....god the list goes on and on.....by your claims there shoudl not have been many(if any) murders before the invention of the gun

It's not ludicrous. All of those weapons or things that can be used as weapons aren't really projectiles dedicated to the act of penetration and destruction. The kid would need to get near her mother and physically 'try' and assault her, which could've resulted in a much less severe following. A gun would make that part much too easy. But you already knew that. Don't be stupid.

projectile object or not....inanimate objects cannot have a positive or negative value. This value therefor is determined by whomever uses the object. If my sole use for a pistol is a paper wieght then it is no more dangerous than a paperweight.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.

Uh, I'm pretty sure it's already illegal for a 12y/o to have a gun in Dallas. I think we've established that she doesn't much care about laws.

 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.

She could always use an axe or stab her in the throat.
 
"projectile object or not....inanimate objects cannot have a positive or negative value. This value therefor is determined by whomever uses the object. If my sole use for a pistol is a paper wieght then it is no more dangerous than a paperweight."

what if there is an earthquake, and the gun falls on the floor and shoots your kneecap off?

or what if the paperweight is made out of plutonium ?

in this case the Mom was shot with a gun. it is just a fact that some kinds of inanimate objects are more dangerous than others and therefore deserve to be regulated or in some cases prohibited.

There are credible arguments for and against possession of guns, the argument that guns aren't dangerous isn't one of them.
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Arkitech
where are the parents who don't believe in spankings? I'll bet if she had a few whippings instead of time outs she'd be ok.

If they had whacked her over the head with an axe it most definently wouldn't have happened.

Dude, you need to consolidate your responses into one reply, instead of making 5 different posts responding to 5 different things. Just a thought 😉

As others have stated, I'd like to know where she got the gun...

I do?
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Arkitech
where are the parents who don't believe in spankings? I'll bet if she had a few whippings instead of time outs she'd be ok.

If they had whacked her over the head with an axe it most definently wouldn't have happened.

Dude, you need to consolidate your responses into one reply, instead of making 5 different posts responding to 5 different things. Just a thought 😉

As others have stated, I'd like to know where she got the gun...

Are you sure?
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Arkitech
where are the parents who don't believe in spankings? I'll bet if she had a few whippings instead of time outs she'd be ok.

If they had whacked her over the head with an axe it most definently wouldn't have happened.

Dude, you need to consolidate your responses into one reply, instead of making 5 different posts responding to 5 different things. Just a thought 😉

As others have stated, I'd like to know where she got the gun...

Others don't do that?
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Arkitech
where are the parents who don't believe in spankings? I'll bet if she had a few whippings instead of time outs she'd be ok.

If they had whacked her over the head with an axe it most definently wouldn't have happened.

Dude, you need to consolidate your responses into one reply, instead of making 5 different posts responding to 5 different things. Just a thought 😉

As others have stated, I'd like to know where she got the gun...

Or do they?
 
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: deathkoba
'shoots' mother? Now what would've happened if there was no GUN in the first place? There would've been a good chance the mother would've survived any other attacks. GUNS must be outlawed.

Uh, I'm pretty sure it's already illegal for a 12y/o to have a gun in Dallas. I think we've established that she doesn't much care about laws.

Hmmm, i IS Dallas after all, i am not so sure.
 
Parents disciplining their kids without love and attention lead to criminals.

Parents failing to discipline their kids, without love and attention lead to spoiled brats.

That is my theory. What is missing in the world is the love and attention.
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Parents disciplining their kids without love and attention lead to criminals.

Parents failing to discipline their kids, without love and attention lead to spoiled brats.

That is my theory. What is missing in the world is the love and attention.

Best post i have read this week. (well except for all of mine of course)
 
Originally posted by: Tom
"projectile object or not....inanimate objects cannot have a positive or negative value. This value therefor is determined by whomever uses the object. If my sole use for a pistol is a paper wieght then it is no more dangerous than a paperweight."

what if there is an earthquake, and the gun falls on the floor and shoots your kneecap off?

or what if the paperweight is made out of plutonium ?

in this case the Mom was shot with a gun. it is just a fact that some kinds of inanimate objects are more dangerous than others and therefore deserve to be regulated or in some cases prohibited.

There are credible arguments for and against possession of guns, the argument that guns aren't dangerous isn't one of them.

i gun is harmless without bullets loaded into it and the saftey off. Plutonium is artificially made radioactively unstable. They give away depleted uranium pellets at nuclear reators to visitors.
 
Disgusting. I just feel bad for the other children, and for the girl herself. There's obviously a plethora of problems here, both social and emotional. It's terrible when things end this way.
 
You crazy mofos who think guns aren't dangerous can go on arguing all day. Either way, guns are not a necessity and can only do harm to an object or a person, especially if YOUR gun gets into the wrong hands. Why is that so hard to understand? Sure there's an amendment that says we have the right to bear arms but I don't think it's also right to abuse our rights. I'm not going to comment any further.
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Parents disciplining their kids without love and attention lead to criminals.

Parents failing to discipline their kids, without love and attention lead to spoiled brats.

That is my theory. What is missing in the world is the love and attention.


each person is responsible for their own actions. not their parents, not society, etc.

There are lots of people who grew up in loving households who go bad, and lots of people who grew up with no love who turn out fine.

 
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