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spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Say "I'm using one of my personal days".

If she doesn't like it demand that a HR representative be present. We have laws for this sort of thing.
 

JoLLyRoGer

Diamond Member
Aug 24, 2000
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Be diplomatic and professional. Defend your position in a rational way but don't be a kiss a$$ and a pushover. That will just send signals that you're OK with being jerked around and you don't want that either.
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Say "I'm using one of my personal days".

If she doesn't like it demand that a HR representative be present. We have laws for this sort of thing.

Thank you, spidey. That's a good idea. I get 2 personal days a year, and I have one left at the moment. If it comes down to it, I'll tell her I'll use one for what happened yesterday.
 

Heisenberg

Lifer
Dec 21, 2001
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Your boss really sounds like she's wound up way too tight. Calling to check if someone's actually sick is over the line IMO. She's treating you like children, not professional adults.
 

tk149

Diamond Member
Apr 3, 2002
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If your company is not doing so well, they may well be looking for someone to axe. You've just made their decision a little easier.

If your missing a workday makes it harder on everybody else, don't be surprised that they're pissed off at you. If someone misses a day in my department, my workday becomes hell on earth. I can understand if someone's actually sick or injured, but just "tired" doesn't cut it.

I come in to work when I'm tired. I don't make excuses. I may feel like crap, but I'll get my work done regardless, and thereby make everyone else's job easier. If I can do this, I expect everyone else I work with to do the same.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I've had a rough time at work because of some unexpected absences by coworkers lately.
 

aircooled

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Sounds like he (co-worker) might me poking the boss. you may want to update your resume.
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer
Be diplomatic and professional. Defend your position in a rational way but don't be a kiss a$$ and a pushover. That will just send signals that you're OK with being jerked around and you don't want that either.

She really intimidates me, and I have to admit I do have a tendancy to act like a pushover in a situation like this. She views me as a little kid fresh out of college, not to be taken too seriously... sometimes she gives me little lectures on how to live my life like she's my mom. I'll do my best, though... thank you.
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Your boss really sounds like she's wound up way too tight. Calling to check if someone's actually sick is over the line IMO. She's treating you like children, not professional adults.

Sometimes people act like children and not professional adults. You should see some of the people that work at my company.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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I'd quit, your boss is an ass. Is this the same co-worker you took to the Robert Deniro thing and he got drunk and made an ass out of himself?
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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your boss called your house to make sure you were home when you did call in sick? thats fricken ridiculus :|

What would have happend if you didnt answer the phone because you were sleeping or puking? She is your boss not your mother, not your babysitter. If my boss ever did that to me i would feel very violated and our relationship will change, and the next day or when ever i got back her and I would have a talk about what is approiate behavior. :|

I think its time to move on if you dont get canned today.
 

damiano

Platinum Member
May 29, 2002
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oups ...
sorry

<------- just realized that you are in california and that there is a time difference

 

Heisenberg

Lifer
Dec 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Your boss really sounds like she's wound up way too tight. Calling to check if someone's actually sick is over the line IMO. She's treating you like children, not professional adults.

Sometimes people act like children and not professional adults. You should see some of the people that work at my company.
So? Because some people can't be responsible, everyone should be penalized for it? When those people misbehave, they should be punished. But that doesn't mean treating everyone without respect should be standard procedure.
 

imported_Tomato

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Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: tk149
If your company is not doing so well, they may well be looking for someone to axe. You've just made their decision a little easier.

If your missing a workday makes it harder on everybody else, don't be surprised that they're pissed off at you. If someone misses a day in my department, my workday becomes hell on earth. I can understand if someone's actually sick or injured, but just "tired" doesn't cut it.

I come in to work when I'm tired. I don't make excuses. I may feel like crap, but I'll get my work done regardless, and thereby make everyone else's job easier. If I can do this, I expect everyone else I work with to do the same.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I've had a rough time at work because of some unexpected absences by coworkers lately.

The company is fine... it's a very large corporation, and they definitely aren't hurting for money. They just came up with $11.3 billion for a bid to buy another company, but that fell through. Anyway...

I empathize re: leaving the entire workload to my coworker. The thing is, our job really isn't THAT stressful or difficult... I've handled work for three people three days in a row before, and everything has been fine. I'm sorry to hear about your rough time at work... :( I definitely don't make a habit of doing this, and won't be in the future.

1.5 hours until the meeting... I'm going to sign off for a bit and get some more work done.

Please keep your fingers crossed for me...
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Nitemare
I'd quit, your boss is an ass. Is this the same co-worker you took to the Robert Deniro thing and he got drunk and made an ass out of himself?

Yes, it is.

Okay, going to get some work done now. Thanks again for all your support... I'll be back after the meeting with my boss. Please keep your fingers crossed for me...
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: atom
...so I'm guessing you don't have any sick/vacation days to use? If you don't then yeah I'd guess I'd be mad.

If you have sick days though, they can fsck off. You should be able to use them for whatever.

My boss made it EXPLICITLY clear in the beginning that sick days were to be used ONLY if I'm "really sick." And she called me at home the last two times I used them to make sure a) I was really sick, and b) I sounded sick.

My boss means well, but she's kind of anal. She's a career-driven woman... the type who doesn't want any kids because they'll get in the way of her career. She scared the hell out of my friend who I brought to a movie showing with my boss and coworkers... she likes her power, which is good in a business sense and for those above her, but not so good for anyone beneath her. :(

Brush up that resume.

No way I'd stick around working for someone like that!!
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Heisenberg

So? Because some people can't be responsible, everyone should be penalized for it? When those people misbehave, they should be punished. But that doesn't mean treating everyone without respect should be standard procedure.

How is everyone penalized for it? Sounds like those are the rules the boss set forth. If you can't commit to the rules of that particular workplace, find a new job or deal with it.

I agree that it is a pretty sh!tty thing to do, but you should know the rules that your boss uses and make a decision if that is something you can accept.
 

poopaskoopa

Diamond Member
Sep 12, 2000
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Firing would be harsh, but it really depends on your job, and what you were supposed to have finished on Monday. You might as well leave, because your peers might think you're unreliable as long as you work there...
 

Heisenberg

Lifer
Dec 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: Heisenberg

So? Because some people can't be responsible, everyone should be penalized for it? When those people misbehave, they should be punished. But that doesn't mean treating everyone without respect should be standard procedure.

How is everyone penalized for it? Sounds like those are the rules the boss set forth. If you can't commit to the rules of that particular workplace, find a new job or deal with it.

I agree that it is a pretty sh!tty thing to do, but you should know the rules that your boss uses and make a decision if that is something you can accept.
Knowing the rules is fine, but there are some things that should not be accepted no matter where you work. Should she accept sexual harassment because it's "the way things are done"? Calling to check if you're sick is one of those unacceptable practices. To me, it's demeaning and disrespectful.
 

SCSIfreek

Diamond Member
Mar 3, 2000
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hmmm... looks like your boss is having one of those monthly thingy. For your career's sake, please do not mention to your boss that you're too tired to go to work (Big Mistake). That is a big no no in the business world. especially working with anal bosses. eventhough you're not sick, pretend to be sick.

Good luck to you. Do show iyour boss that you're a hard worker.


--Scsi
 

JoeKing

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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eye contact, in my experience office heads like it when you maintain eye contact so they know you're listening. I bet you'll just get off with a stern warning.....and if not can I send in my resume? :)
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Knowing the rules is fine, but there are some things that should not be accepted no matter where you work. Should she accept sexual harassment because it's "the way things are done"? Calling to check if you're sick is one of those unacceptable practices. To me, it's demeaning and disrespectful.

Sexual harassment isn't even close to the same thing, for one thing it is covered under law. Calling to check if you are sick isn't.

I agree with you, that is demeaning and disrespectful. i'm not arguing that point with you. I am agruing that it is up to the individual supervisor/company to allow/do that type of thing.
 

yukichigai

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Apr 23, 2003
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Lesse, you came back to LA at 6:30am through what sounds like no fault of your own. (The 400 mile drive from Vegas to LA shouldn't take 12+ hours... or is it longer?) I would say not coming in was a justifiable action. In fact I think your only mistake was understating the problem. On occasion I have to pick my dad up from the airport and drive him home, and sometimes his plane can be 4 hours late. (i.e. He lands at 2am) When that happens there's no way in hell I can make it to work at 7:30 the next day, but I don't say I'm tired. I call then and flat out say "boss-man, it's 3am, I just got home due to forces beyond my control and I won't be able to make it into work tomorrow." Sleep deprivation is a valid illness. Point out the accident and how it extended your travel time a lot. (By like 5 hours or so?) I don't care how heartless she is, she can't expect you to work with a maximum of 2 hours of sleep.