111 Million of Stimulus funds for LA saved/created 55 jobs

[Fear No Evil]

I'm sure some liberal social groups had some REALLY nice lunches and dinner's discussing what they were going to do with this money though..

 

[ShawnD1]

I'm sure some liberal social groups had some REALLY nice lunches and dinner's discussing what they were going to do with this money though..

Reminds me of the scene from Robocop 2 where a bunch of retards are talking about things they want robocop to do such as community service, talk to youth groups, and basically do everything except be a police officer.

 

[Throckmorton]

So where did the rest of the money go?

 

[EagleKeeper]

So where did the rest of the money go?

Black box projects and/or someones swimming pool:\

 

[woolfe9999]

So where did the rest of the money go?

The rest of the money probably replaced money lost through budget cuts. The articles make no mention of whether the stimulus money for those departments prevented layoffs.

- wolf

 

[woolfe9999]

well here you go little child...

http://www.sfexaminer.com/economy/a...lus-money-only-created-55-jobs-103130179.html

OMFG it says the same damn thing!

Yes both mention the 55 jobs for those 2 particular departments, but curiously the Foxnews version omits this:

A spokeswoman for Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa referred questions from the Los Angeles Times to City Administrative Officer Miguel Santana, the city's top budget official. Santana would not comment on the audit but said his assessment of jobs created from stimulus spending by every agency in the city - not just the two examined by the controller - had very different results.

"I haven't seen her numbers," he told the paper. "I can tell you what I do know, which is that, in what we've spent so far, those dollars created 936 jobs in the month of June. And we've only spent 13 percent of what we've received."

Must have been an inadvertant omission on the part of Fox. I know they always want to get all the facts straight.

- wolf

 

[HumblePie]

Wasn't CA not paying back government payroll for awhile? I know some people that did some contract work for the CA government and are still holding onto an IOU. Maybe they took that money and used it to finally pay some people for they've done and weren't payed for yet?

 

[woolfe9999]

Wasn't CA not paying back government payroll for awhile? I know some people that did some contract work for the CA government and are still holding onto an IOU. Maybe they took that money and used it to finally pay some people for they've done and weren't payed for yet?

Perhaps. Bear in mind, however, that most CA state and local government agencies have received mild to steep budget cuts over the past two years. A certain amount of money is required just to maintain the status quo in those departments before they can actually add more jobs. That said, it looks like these two particular departments have been a lot less efficient at converting stimulus money to jobs than the other LA departments.

- wolf

 

[theeedude]

Maybe they had to buy equipment or supplies. Just because they only created 55 jobs in the department itself, doesn't mean it's only 55 total jobs created. Another piece of faux news.

 

[Sinsear]

So where did the rest of the money go?

Hire illegals to keep senseamps produce cheap?

 

[Acanthus]

Someone fire that controller.

 

[classy]

Well this is a reflection on the California government, not the stimulus. If they managed the stimulus money poorly, they are the ones at fault.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Wasn't CA not paying back government payroll for awhile? I know some people that did some contract work for the CA government and are still holding onto an IOU. Maybe they took that money and used it to finally pay some people for they've done and weren't payed for yet?

CA finally paid my IOUs from work, in 2008/2009, the beginning of this year.
But they wanted me to pay taxes on the income by the end of the quarter that they sent the IOUs.:thumbsdown:

So I sent them an IOU:thumbsup: with copies of their IOUs
Did not hear a peep back from them.

 

[Acanthus]

Well this is a reflection on the California government, not the stimulus. If they managed the stimulus money poorly, they are the ones at fault.

If you read the rest of the thread, the $111m hasn't even been spent yet, only 13% or so of it has. On top of that, the 55 jobs is 2 agencies reporting out of hundreds.

Epic fail on journalistic integrity.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Maybe they had to buy equipment or supplies. Just because they only created 55 jobs in the department itself, doesn't mean it's only 55 total jobs created. Another piece of faux news.

Let them show where the funds went to.
I am sure that the LA government can come up with a formula (or use the one that Obama uses) to show the additional indirect jobs that they claim are created.

 

[classy]

The title is misleading

Whole article....

Audits: Los Angeles departments received $111 million in stimulus money only created 55 jobs

Associated Press
09/17/10 9:31 AM EDT

LOS ANGELES — Despite lingering unemployment, audits released by the Los Angeles city controller found that two departments that received $111 million in federal stimulus dollars have only created 55 jobs so far.

The reports released by City Controller Wendy Greuel looked at how the Department of Transportation and Department of Public Works used millions in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds. The two departments received the largest amount of the $594 million in federal funding that was awarded to the city in March.

Of that, the transportation department received $40.8 million and created or retained 9 jobs while public works received $70 million and created 45 jobs.

Both agencies are expected to eventually create 264 jobs.

Greuel, who released the audits Thursday, said she was "disappointed" by the low number of job created.

"With our local unemployment rate over 12 percent we need to do a better job cutting the red tape and putting Angelenos back to work," she said.

While the audits found no evidence that any money was misspent, the reports criticized the way the public works department tracks work orders for stimulus projects and submits billing costs to ensure accurate tracking of the federal money.

The audits also found that both agencies have not moved urgently enough to award project contracts in order to create jobs. For example, four highway projects were not sent out to bid until seven months after they were authorized, the reports found.

A spokeswoman for Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa referred questions from the Los Angeles Times to City Administrative Officer Miguel Santana, the city's top budget official. Santana would not comment on the audit but said his assessment of jobs created from stimulus spending by every agency in the city - not just the two examined by the controller - had very different results.

"I haven't seen her numbers," he told the paper. "I can tell you what I do know, which is that, in what we've spent so far, those dollars created 936 jobs in the month of June. And we've only spent 13 percent of what we've received."

Greuel, who is expected to examine other city agencies that received federal stimulus dollars, told the Times she spoke with Santana on Thursday and said that he did not dispute the data in her audit.

 

[hal2kilo]

More than a year after Congress approved $800 billion in stimulus funds, the Los Angeles City Controller has released a 40-page report on how the city spent its share, and the results are not living up to expectations.

"I'm disappointed that we've only created or retained 55 jobs after receiving $111 million," said Wendy Greuel, the city's controller. "With our local unemployment rate over 12% we need to do a better job cutting red tape and putting Angelenos back to work."

According to the audit, the Los Angeles Department of Public Works spent $70 million in stimulus funds and created 7 private sector jobs and saved 7 workers from layoffs. Taxpayer cost per job: $1.5 million.




http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ficial-disappointed-city-used-stimulus-funds/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/b...lus-money-only-created-55-jobs-103130179.html


Government efficiency :thumbsup:

The Stimulus worked. :thumbsup:

Since when is the one most disfunctional city/state governments (except for maybe Detroit) is how it has worked throughout the country.

I sure you think it's a classic example of left wing government. It's not. California government in general is just insane and only liberal on a surface level.

Continue with the spin/spew. The big problem is that the stimulus was way too small due to the opstructionist Repugs and DINO's.

 

[JSt0rm]

hmm so again like all of nicks threads the truth comes out in the end and he was wrong...again.

 

[her209]

Link to the actual audit
http://controller.lacity.org/stelle...ts/contributor_web_content/lacityp_011643.pdf

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Wow a lowly city controller who is obviously politically motivated puts out a biased report thats in stark contrast with the citys highest ranking budget officials numbers and right wingers jump on it and hold it a gospel, imagine that.

From your link:

A spokeswoman for Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa referred questions from the Los Angeles Times to City Administrative Officer Miguel Santana, the city's top budget official. Santana would not comment on the audit but said his assessment of jobs created from stimulus spending by every agency in the city - not just the two examined by the controller - had very different results.
"I haven't seen her numbers," he told the paper. "I can tell you what I do know, which is that, in what we've spent so far, those dollars created 936 jobs in the month of June. And we've only spent 13 percent of what we've received."

Doing the math $594mil X 13% = $77.2mil / 936 jobs = $82.5k per job sounds reasonable to me.

But by all means don't let reality get in the way of your Obummer bashing

 

[Mursilis]

Wow a lowly city controller who is obviously politically motivated puts out a biased report thats in stark contrast with the citys highest ranking budget officials numbers and right wingers jump on it and hold it a gospel, imagine that.

I couldn't find party affiliation on her site, but the fact she previously worked in the Clinton administration and has been endorsed by Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman, both Cal. senators, and several other very prominent Dems suggests she's a Dem herself. She even listed the endorsement of Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, with whom she's disagreeing re the jobs numbers. So how is all this politically motivated again?

 

[Throckmorton]

Some more explanation of the Fox "News" spin http://mediamatters.org/research/201009170037

 

[her209]

Wow a lowly city controller who is obviously politically motivated puts out a biased report thats in stark contrast with the citys highest ranking budget officials numbers and right wingers jump on it and hold it a gospel, imagine that.

From your link:

A spokeswoman for Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa referred questions from the Los Angeles Times to City Administrative Officer Miguel Santana, the city's top budget official. Santana would not comment on the audit but said his assessment of jobs created from stimulus spending by every agency in the city - not just the two examined by the controller - had very different results.
"I haven't seen her numbers," he told the paper. "I can tell you what I do know, which is that, in what we've spent so far, those dollars created 936 jobs in the month of June. And we've only spent 13 percent of what we've received."

Doing the math $594mil X 13% = $77.2mil / 936 jobs = $82.5k per job sounds reasonable to me.

But by all means don't let reality get in the way of your Obummer bashing

Are those numbers including material costs (asphalt/traffic equipment/etc.) or just labor?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I couldn't find party affiliation on her site, but the fact she previously worked in the Clinton administration and has been endorsed by Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman, both Cal. senators, and several other very prominent Dems suggests she's a Dem herself. She even listed the endorsement of Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, with whom she's disagreeing re the jobs numbers. So how is all this politically motivated again?

Perhaps by making a name for herself by authoring a contraversial and derogatory report? What would be your reasoning for why her report shows $2mil spent for every job created when the senior budget director for the city says $82k per job for the entire city?

*edit*
After reviewing some of the other links in this thread I see that the controllers report was taken totally out of context, so it wasn't the ladys report that was politically motivated (my apologies to her) but the partisan hacks that spun the report completely out of context.

 

[her209]

Perhaps by making a name for herself by authoring a contraversial and derogatory report? What would be your reasoning for why her report shows $2mil spent for every job created when the senior budget director for the city says $82k per job for the entire city?

I doubt it. Audits that don't turn up anything would be suspicious. You may disagree with the findings though.