11 telling charts from 2011

[Ausm]

I say good riddance to 2011 and hopefully the economy will keep coming back in force.

http://workingamerica.visibli.com/share/cgxogf

 

[monovillage]

Sorry, but "recovery summer" was in 2010 according to President Obama. We all know that the economy is doing just fine and has been for a couple of years.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38654.html

Can you get any more pro-Union/pro-Democrat then the Economic Policy Institute? Nope.

 

[Ausm]

Sorry, but "recovery summer" was in 2010 according to President Obama. We all know that the economy is doing just fine and has been for a couple of years.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38654.html

Can you get any more pro-Union/pro-Democrat then the Economic Policy Institute? Nope.

Are the charts wrong? If so please elaborate.

 

[theeedude]

F-n 1%ers.

 

[Craig234]

Nice charts.

 

[HeXen]

you can find opposing charts and articles for anything.
Working in construction, i do see far, far fewer homes being built and less of everything including hiring people. So in my view, economy is just as crap as it was in 2008/09

 

[Anarchist420]

The economy will see sooner see hyperinflation and/or the gov's going to raise taxes on everyone. There are only two taxes I can think of that haven't been tried and that will actually raise revenue and one of them would definitely lead to hyperinflation.

The government needs to be starved of its revenue IMO.

 

[Fern]

I say good riddance to 2011 and hopefully the economy will start coming back in force.

http://workingamerica.visibli.com/share/cgxogf

Fixed.

Shrug. I don't really see any good news in those charts.

Fern

 

[Anarchist420]

40 questions that Obama is BSing:
http://lewrockwell.com/rep2/40-hard-questions.html

The same number of people are still on food stamps, more are low income, and the list goes on as to what's wrong.

 

[Craig234]

you can find opposing charts and articles for anything.
Working in construction, i do see far, far fewer homes being built and less of everything including hiring people. So in my view, economy is just as crap as it was in 2008/09

Good point. You can't trust anything in charts. Maybe Belgium has a biger economy than the US! Maybe uneployment is really 99%! Maybe there were zero car accidents in 2011!

Any chart can be shown wrong, so there's just no using any facts. All discussion of policy should be done with facts made up to fit the ideology you prefer.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

My parents just bought a new car this weekend, the Mercedes dealer we got ours at was (on average) selling a car every 15 minutes. We literally had 3 SUVs we were looking at get sold while we were looking at them.

Economy in shambles what?

 

[Jhhnn]

My parents just bought a new car this weekend, the Mercedes dealer we got ours at was (on average) selling a car every 15 minutes. We literally had 3 SUVs we were looking at get sold while we were looking at them.

Economy in shambles what?

People at the top are doing better than ever, often at the expense of everybody else...

 

[Craig234]

My parents just bought a new car this weekend, the Mercedes dealer we got ours at was (on average) selling a car every 15 minutes. We literally had 3 SUVs we were looking at get sold while we were looking at them.

Economy in shambles what?

What part of the 1%, the type who are out buying new Mercedes, doing GREAT is unclear?

That sounds pretty outrageous though, what dealer is selling that many?

 

[PhoKingGuy]

What part of the 1%, the type who are out buying new Mercedes, doing GREAT is unclear?

That sounds pretty outrageous though, what dealer is selling that many?

The situation was repeated at a local Ford dealer as well, I've been helping a bunch of my friends purchase new cars this past week.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeh- they're doing great in Tampa-

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/florida/tampa/

http://www2.tbo.com/news/real-estat...es-delinquencies-to-come-for-tampa-ar-332618/

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busine...nt-default-rate-tops-national-average/1199968

I'm getting a whiff of something.... smells funny... smells like bullshit...

 

[EagleKeeper]

What part of the 1%, the type who are out buying new Mercedes, doing GREAT is unclear?

That sounds pretty outrageous though, what dealer is selling that many?

High end models. End of year clearance push for looking good to bean counters

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Yeh- they're doing great in Tampa-

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/florida/tampa/

http://www2.tbo.com/news/real-estat...es-delinquencies-to-come-for-tampa-ar-332618/

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busine...nt-default-rate-tops-national-average/1199968

I'm getting a whiff of something.... smells funny... smells like bullshit...

I live in FL for grad school, my parents don't.

 

[Jhhnn]

I live in FL for grad school, my parents don't.

Where then, pray tell, do they live?

 

[Gintaras]

My parents just bought a new car this weekend, the Mercedes dealer we got ours at was (on average) selling a car every 15 minutes. We literally had 3 SUVs we were looking at get sold while we were looking at them.

Economy in shambles what?

Mercedes in Europe is like Ford in US - a taxi car...

US does not have an economy - money printing and endless borrowing from others - is not an economy...

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Mercedes in Europe is like Ford in US - a taxi car...

US does not have an economy - money printing and endless borrowing from others - is not an economy...

My saleslady had 7 customers that day, 5 paid in cash.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Where then, pray tell, do they live?

FL by in large is pretty shitty if you arent retired.

 

[Craig234]

The situation was repeated at a local Ford dealer as well, I've been helping a bunch of my friends purchase new cars this past week.

My question was, which dealer is selling a Mercedes every 15 minutes?

I'm not saying you're wrong but I'd like to check it.

 

[boomerang]

Hey, to a great degree, things are looking up!

 

[Jhhnn]

Hey, to a great degree, things are looking up!

That's extremely dishonest, an exercise in willful blindness.

The economy flamed out & went into a tailspin before Obama was elected. That's how credit bubbles work, and Repubs love their credit bubbles-

http://chartmechanic.com/chart.jsp?c=dave/Case Shiller for selected cities

Can you say false prosperity? financial flimflam? Cutting red tape to facilitate self regulated banking in the Ownership Society?

You've been hornswaggled & lack the wherewithall to admit it- just the way your conservative idols planned it.

 

[Matt1970]

That sounds pretty outrageous though, what dealer is selling that many?

I would question that as well. When I bought my truck some years back the dealership tried to tell me that business what great. Funny that 2 years later they were bankrupt. My girfriend bought her car the following summer. The car finder thing from Dodge at the time told you when cars arrived at the dealership. Great bargining tool as they had a LOT of cars there from 6 moths ago collecting interest.