11 GTX480 vs. 5870 reviews in one chart (Updated with temps & OCs)

[Creig]

It's good to see NVIDIA on top again. I can see this core dominating for several years much like the G80.

If you're as accurate with this prediction as you have been in the past, ATi has nothing to worry about...

My prediction is that the R700 will be the last high end GPU from AMD.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=120792

 

[MrK6]

lolz what a joke...unfortunately the rest of the Tech Internet doesn't agree with you.
This must be the benchmark you are using.

Holy crap that's hilarious, cheers to you .

 

[yh125d]

Wreckage's definition of "on top": What nvidia is



This doesn't change

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

The 8800GTX ran pretty hot when it came out. We all know how well that core did. Seems a similar situation here.

Yeah, but it also absolutely smashed the 3870. It competed on par with the 3870X2. Whereas in this situation, the 480 soundly beats the 5870, but itself is soundly beaten by the 5970. Seems more like GT200 to me.

 

[Wreckage]

Yeah, but it also absolutely smashed the 3870. It competed on par with the 3870X2. Whereas in this situation, the 480 soundly beats the 5870, but itself is soundly beaten by the 5970. Seems more like GT200 to me.

There are situations like newer games and games that crossfire does not scale well that the 480 does compete with the 5970.

Granted I will give credit where credit is due. The G80 faced 2 epic turds in the HD2xxx and 3xxx line. The 5870 is a good card.

 

[djt]

Would be nice to se Flight Simulator X (FSX) compared... Most flying that sim have to date used the 285 as the card of choice although others are recently reporting great gains with the 10.3 ATI drivers...

That “sim” uses a very CPU dependent (POS) game engine so what earth shattering performance increase are you going to get out of the GTX 480 with FSX that we already don't have with the GTX 285 or 5870?

 

[bryanW1995]

That's very nice I'm sure, but 100% irrelevant to people who play video games, particularly as I understand they've majorly gimped all that for the 'gaming' cards

As it is, it then appears to be deadweight, and damn power-hungry deadweight at that...if gaming is what you are after. If not, then all power to you

EDIT: Perhaps more importantly, do you think I could run a GTX 470 (or a 5870) on a reasonably decent 500W PSU? Q6600@3.4, 4GB DDR2, 1 HDD, 1 optical drive is the rest of the system, in an Antec Sonata III with the stock 500W PSU (Earthwatts 500W with 2x 17A 12v rails).

5870 is less power hungry than gtx 470, though both could probably get by on that psu. At a guess, you'll be loading the psu @ 80-90% during heavy gaming. For comparison, I used an hx 520 with an x3350 @ 3.6 and a gtx 260 for about a year without any problems. I was literally either gaming or running seti 24/7 too, so it was working pretty hard all the time.

having said all that, I be prepared to spend a bit more money if the psu can't take it.

 

[bryanW1995]

I agree completely, which is why I always test a mix of older and newer games. I know there are people like you and me that want to see older games running on modern hardware.

I think I’ll get a GTX470 this time around, so I’ll put up a review comparing it to my GTX285. I plan on testing about 35 games, give or take.

will you also try to get a 5870/50 to test as well? I'd let you borrow one but I skipped this round. Maybe apoppin' has one?

 

[bryanW1995]

Yes, but maybe we'll also see ATI boost their driver performance in metro 2033 and other games as well so we'd still be in the same relative position. No reason to bring in what ifs at this point in the game. Both products are out so we can judge based on that. Nvidia has had a long time to develop drivers and they've delayed multiple times so I doubt there are going to be any miracles from driver improvements. Even if there were who knows how long it will take and what will be available in the market by then.

wrong.

I believe that apr 12 is the day that the 480 and 470 are supposed to be "out", and that's assuming that more delays aren't introduced.

I don't understand what all the arguing is about. gtx 480 vs 5870 is about the same as the last gen top level single gpu battle, but 470 vs 5850 is extremely close, certainly much closer than gtx 260 vs 4850 was. Also, nvidia was so late to the party that they needed a very convincing single gpu product that could even be competitive vs 5970 at times. Instead what we got is a lineup that loses a bit of ground vs last gen from nvidia's perspective, and they are starting the race 6-7 mos after their competitor took off.

I agree that fermi has an incredible amount of potential once nvidia/tsmc get their fab process sorted out, and I wouldn't at all be surprised to see nvidia smoke 6xxx with fermi 2, but for this gen nvidia has handed us a big epic fail.

 

[Tempered81]

wrong.

I believe that apr 12 is the day that the 480 and 470 are supposed to be "out"

200 days after the 5870

 

[Kuzi]

I think I’ll get a GTX470 this time around, so I’ll put up a review comparing it to my GTX285. I plan on testing about 35 games, give or take.

BFG I think the GTX470 is held back in some situations because of it's comparatively low memory bandwidth. The GTX285 has 159GB/s bandwidth, while the GTX470 only has 134GB/s. That is 25GB/s less bandwidth than the "old" card! That looks strange to me, not sure why Nvidia choose to handicap it so much.

In comparison the 5850 has 147GB/s, the 5870 has 153GB/s, and the GTX480 has 177GB/s, which seem fine for all these cards. Maybe you can test the effect of higher memory clocks on the GTX470 to see if it makes any difference? I would think that many newer and some older titles at the highest settings/resolutions should show some noticeable gains in fps.

 

[bfdd]

Leap? Doubtful.
I don't know when they had their first silicon back but it must have been quite a few months ago. They'll certainly improve but so will ATI's.

Still, a comparison with ATI's and Nvidia's next driver update would be sweet, especially since ATI hasn't had a change to tweak their driver for Metro yet. You gotta love twimtbp..

Oh I'm not saying ATIs drivers won't get better with age, I'm just saying NV hasn't had the opportunity to optimize drivers really yet, probably for some titles, but not all. You can QA and bug hunt all you want shit is still going to pop up when it gets into a bunch of consumers hands. You guys are probably right though we won't see that big of a boost, but there will most likely be some.

 

[wrangler]

Stealing the GrillForce pic.

Too hilarious.

 

[A4i]

Oh I'm not saying ATIs drivers won't get better with age, I'm just saying NV hasn't had the opportunity to optimize drivers really yet, probably for some titles, but not all. You can QA and bug hunt all you want shit is still going to pop up when it gets into a bunch of consumers hands. You guys are probably right though we won't see that big of a boost, but there will most likely be some.

Remember that Fermi picture?

It was taken September 30, 2009.

 

[crazylegs]

A4i... what is your point, its known that pic was faked / staged or however you'd like to describe it.

 

[Rezident]

aren't these extremely early drivers? maybe we will see a leap when some more mature drivers come out?

It was delayed six months so they've already had more time with the drivers on this architecture.

 

[bananax]

It was delayed six months so they've already had more time with the drivers on this architecture.

I signed up, just to +1 this, NV has had 6 extra months to work on these drivers, so I wouldn't say they're immature =p

 

[Nemesis 1]

It really is a mute point . Fermi is late 6+ months. Its Hot , Its loud and its only10%-15% faster than 5870. The First NI chip is to be released on a mature 40nm die in the third qt its said to be 15%-25% than unbroke fermi. Than in Qt. 1/2 of 2011 the 28 version comes . The low end . Followed by the new high end that is 2x faster than the 40nm NI. Times has changed the ball is in AMDs court. Lets see how they serve. THe new NI from AMD is said to have 3x-4x better tess. 2x traingles ect. ect. ect.

 

[Tempered81]

Stealing the GrillForce pic.

Too hilarious.

Hehe, I added the grill force logo

 

[Nemesis 1]

So The New AMD/ATI NI seies should come out of the fab the middle of April. Thats when will here the leaks. Exciting times for AMD/ATI team. Because ATI had such a tuff time with R600 They were a year late. This Fermi thing closed the gap by about 8 months. Fermi and NI were suppose to come out when the 5870 came out. Fermi is NV new tech . ATI is NI. So in about 4 months will see the NI. If AMD is good this thing is over. I am sure NV lowered the bar for AMD/ATI . NI only has to be faster than the old tech based on 5870 by 10% to 15% inorder to equal NV this generation . I have never seen a more favorable oppertunity for ATI in all the years I have used them. IF the NI is just OK it should beat Fermi. Than we start scaling . Both companies.

 

[Tempered81]

heres temps

 

[solofly]

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If0Bkfnifi4

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If0Bkfnifi4

Pure awesome.

 

[Dark Shroud]

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If0Bkfnifi4

The best one I've seen yet. :thumbsup: Just amazing.

 

[nyker96]

I personally not very impressed with this card. Late by 6 months, 50% bigger than ATIs and runs about 100W hotter. It does offer 15% more performance. I'd expect a lot more from such a monster of a card with NV having a lot more time to work on it. But the biggest problem is that how are they going to make a dual gup card with this power situation?! If they do make one I mean what type of monster PSU do you need to get it running? However with that said I do like the fact that it's a great card for cuda apps.