In Colley, the only 1 loss team that would be ahead of undefeated Rutgers is USC. I think USC only having 1 loss is about as likely as Rutgers beating Louisville and WVU.
The rest of the computers should be similar.
In Colley, the only 1 loss team that would be ahead of undefeated Rutgers is USC. I think USC only having 1 loss is about as likely as Rutgers beating Louisville and WVU.
The rest of the computers should be similar.
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consider conference championships tooOriginally posted by: her209
Oops... you're right. I missed that one.Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I thought they also play Rutgers
ESPN's website not loading for me at the moment tho.
still lots of time for teams to falter, or go out strong with big wins
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
consider conference championships tooOriginally posted by: her209
Oops... you're right. I missed that one.Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I thought they also play Rutgers
ESPN's website not loading for me at the moment tho.
still lots of time for teams to falter, or go out strong with big wins
Do conference championships get factored into the BCS calculations?
Go to what? Championship game? I don't know about that. But then that means Cal could still go to the Rose Bowl? Hah, unlikely.
Now if USC loses out to Cal, which there exists some possibility for, then it's roses for Cal.
Interesting...so the SEC runner-up could conceivably get counted for two losses to the same team?
I'd say they'd jump significantly
The human polls don't work that way because they've already built the two losses to WVU and Louisville into their expectations.
If Rutgers actually wins those games, those voters will have to do a lot of rethinking
How'd you come up with that theory?Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I'd say they'd jump significantly
The human polls don't work that way because they've already built the two losses to WVU and Louisville into their expectations.
If Rutgers actually wins those games, those voters will have to do a lot of rethinking
The preconceived bias isn't that Rutgers already has two losses for games yet to be played (if so, they'd probably be near the end of the top 25). The preconceived bias is that they started the season unranked; so despite an unbeaten record, they aren't a great team until they start beating some Top 10 teams. At least they'll have their shots. It's much more of a theoretical exercise to rank Boise State, which probably will get an automatic BCS berth anyway.
Is DLeRium correct that if USC wins out and again goes to the BCS title game, Cal will receive the Rose Bowl bid?
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How'd you come up with that theory?Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I'd say they'd jump significantly
The human polls don't work that way because they've already built the two losses to WVU and Louisville into their expectations.
If Rutgers actually wins those games, those voters will have to do a lot of rethinking
The preconceived bias isn't that Rutgers already has two losses for games yet to be played (if so, they'd probably be near the end of the top 25). The preconceived bias is that they started the season unranked; so despite an unbeaten record, they aren't a great team until they start beating some Top 10 teams. At least they'll have their shots. It's much more of a theoretical exercise to rank Boise State, which probably will get an automatic BCS berth anyway.
Is DLeRium correct that if USC wins out and again goes to the BCS title game, Cal will receive the Rose Bowl bid?
Wait...isn't that what we're talking about? How Rutgers would be ranked if they beat Louisville (3) and WVU (10)?
Yes. But then you made the questionable statement that Rutgers is ranked where it is because humans have already factored future losses into their current ranking. Now I realize I'm paraphrasing, but that's the most reasonable reading of your post.
Btw, I mostly agree that Rutgers would jump pretty high if they beat two Top-10 teams(although not all the way to BCS #2). However, your apparent rationale for their current ranking is mystifying.
There would have to be nearly a perfect storm of upsets to get an unbeaten Rutgers into the BCS title game; and then surely the whole system would be scrapped and replaced with some playoff.
It's definetly a strong possibility. There are 10 spots for teams in BCS bowls, and 6 are guaranteed to BCS conference champions. Boise State would be guaranteed one of the remaining 4 spots, and the OSU/Michigan loser would likely be guaranteed a spot by being in the top 4 of the BCS rankings.
Since the Rose Bowl would lose both the Big 10 and Pac 10 champions, they would get first pick of 2 teams and would almost certainly pick OSU/Michigan loser and Cal.
If anything Texas is playing worse than they did when OSU stompted them...and I'm not confident at all they they are going to be A&M anyway
Florida has more quality games left, and if they win out, there is no way Texas passes them, period.
I actually think both Florida and Texas are going to lose before the end of the season, which should make things very interesting.
I think the championship game will be OSU v Louisville, with a Michigan v USC Rose bowl game
Florida has more quality games left, and if they win out, there is no way Texas passes them, period.
I actually think both Florida and Texas are going to lose before the end of the season, which should make things very interesting.
I think the championship game will be OSU v Louisville, with a Michigan v USC Rose bowl game
Not that strong. I think a more likely possibility is:
Rose: OSU/Michigan loser vs. Cal/USC winnar
Holiday Bowl: Cal/USC loser vs. Texas A&M?
Championship: OSU/Michigan winnar vs. Louisville? Rutgers is unlikely
Anyways, if I had to put money down, it would be OSU vs. Louisville for the championship.
I'd coin flip for the Rose Bowl. Even if USC has a good chance of winning against Cal, it needs to beat Oregon, ND and fUCLA, and if it slips once more against either team, it's over.
Edit: for those who think Michigan will win (small chance), then we could see Wisconsin going into the rose bowl?
yeh USC definetely has the tougher part of its schedule left
who would be #2 if auburn, texas and florida lost
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