10tb drives by 2013?

[Gigantopithecus]

Article.

"Toshiba's sample media is still in the prototype stage, but is built at a density equivalent to 2.5 terabits per square inch. Contrast that with Toshiba's current highest capacity drive today, which is based on existing technology and has a density of 541 gigabits per square inch or about one fifth that of the new technology."

I never thought I'd need even a fraction of the 5tb of storage I have now but Blu-rays, FLAC, and CT & genomic data (for my research) eat up space in a hurry. Plus, I assume higher density = faster disks.

 

[Cogman]

Dang it, you beat me to the punch .

10 terabytes.. That is impressive. Wonder when/if SSDs will get there.

 

[Russwinters]

Bit patterned media has been in use for a few years now =)


HAMR will be interesting.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Bit patterned media has been in use for a few years now =)

It has? Where? A perfunctory googling yielded nada.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Since many computers have trouble with 3TB drives, I wouldn't beat the 10TB drum yet.

 

[nyker96]

hey how about give me a prototype NOW! I have a need for space!!

 

[Russwinters]

It has? Where? A perfunctory googling yielded nada.

Won't likely find that information on google.


It isn't in "full effect", but any drive that is 1TB and above is likely using some form of patterned media; just not to the full potential that Toshiba is talking about.


My main point is the is actually nothing new; All HDD manufacturers have been toying with patterned media internally since ~2005; possibly earlier.

http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/616994B9CA608DAF862574B0007F1950/$file/Patterned_Media_WP.pdf


Look at the date on that one; 2008.

And I know they have been working on it for much longer then that =)

 

[Nothinman]

Since many computers have trouble with 3TB drives, I wouldn't beat the 10TB drum yet.

The only real problem is booting from a GUID partition table, if you have a PC with a form of EFI you can boot from GPT just fine.

 

[Voo]

If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. No, I'm completely sure they've got a prototype and the technology is working just fine, but I would be extremely cautios about any timelines.

I mean we've got articles and new cool extremely dense <insert favorite storage device> every few weeks here.. in my experience http://xkcd.com/678/ really sums it up in this area.

Though I wouldn't have anything against 10tb HDDs for a reasonable price - could need one of those.

 

[MarkLuvsCS]

I thought i recall some CES comments from anand's article saying that motherboards were going to start shipping with EFI end of next year? If all computers ultimately went that route then at least that solves the problem of using uberdrives for booting .

 

[bunnyfubbles]

If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. No, I'm completely sure they've got a prototype and the technology is working just fine, but I would be extremely cautios about any timelines.

I mean we've got articles and new cool extremely dense <insert favorite storage device> every few weeks here.. in my experience http://xkcd.com/678/ really sums it up in this area.

Though I wouldn't have anything against 10tb HDDs for a reasonable price - could need one of those.

what you say can be true, but you don't have to take his word for it, you just have to consider how hard drives have been increasing in size by roughly 50&#37; every year (or doubling every other year) almost like clock work, and since we're on schedule for 3TB this year (milestones first achieved: 2TB in 2009, 1.5TB in 2008, 1TB in 2007, 750GB in 2006, 500GB in 2005, etc...), and 4TB is on the radar for 2011, 10TB by 2013 certainly isn't unrealistic, although maybe a bit optimistic as even my grossly simplified guestimation method would suggest 8-9GB drives in 2013.

http://www.techradar.com/news/compu...tachi-makes-4tb-hard-disk-breakthrough-148744

note that article was writing in 2007 and is turning out to be accurate.

 

[Hacp]

The higher the platter density, the larger the throughput.

 

[Bl0cks]

That's a lot of porn.

 

[Nothinman]

The higher the platter density, the larger the throughput.

And the higher the error rates.

 

[boomhower]

I have 6TB now and will take quite a while to fill that but damn it would be fun trying to fill a 10TB drive.

 

[tommo123]

i have about 6-7 or so TB that's almost full. would be quite easy actually filling 10TB.

 

[Oric]

I have reached 6 and working with multiple 2 tb drives is no fun

 

[TruePaige]

I thought i recall some CES comments from anand's article saying that motherboards were going to start shipping with EFI end of next year? If all computers ultimately went that route then at least that solves the problem of using uberdrives for booting .

I've got an EFI laptop right m'yreow.

 

[RebateMonger]

Please. Let me be the first to say these two things!:

1) What are you going to do with all that space? Pr0n?
2) It'll really suck to lose 10 TB of data all at once when that disk fails.

Thank you.

Edit:
I remember being in a grad-school business class on computers. This was in 1982, in the days of CPM-80.

There was discussion about the newly-developed CDROM disks. Several folks asked the question, "Why do we need 650 MB of storage?" "How could people possibly use that much space?"

And then there's Ken Olsen, President of early minicomputer maker, Data Genera:
"There is no reason why anyone would want a computer in their home."

 

[tommo123]

rip my old HD-DVDs and blu rays to, nice to have them stored without forced ads/trailers etc etc etc

drive failure? copy them back on after replacing the drive

 

[FishAk]

2) It'll really suck to lose 10 TB of data all at once when that disk fails.

Having two or three of the drives, to provide for at least for one or two backups, would be the easiest way to prevent a huge data loss. They'll only be $100 to $150 a pop, so really, that's not so much.

 

[alkemyst]

Won't likely find that information on google.

QFT...a lot of scientific items are in a blackhole from search bots.

 

[TheFlyingSquirrel]

sweet
movies and music take up a lot of space

 

[boomhower]

rip my old HD-DVDs and blu rays to, nice to have them stored without forced ads/trailers etc etc etc

drive failure? copy them back on after replacing the drive

You better run that thing in RAID or some other kind of back-up. Evidently you haven't backed up BR's much. It takes a damn long time and ripping 10TB's of them is going to be quite and endeavor, especially since you encoding them to cut out the trailer and other junk.

 

[tommo123]

encoding? no.

megui, the option i can't remember to extract only the movie. mux to matroska. done. source video, dts audio. that's it.

takes 20-30 mins from memory.

i've backed up all my TV shows (both formats) and all my movies. does it fine.