how much of an actual difference will I see if I get a 10000rpm HDD? is it worth the extra cash or is it only for professional applications at this point?
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10k vs. 7.5k RPM speed
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damn, where do I get my 75,000 rpm HDD's? Anyways, They ae a tiny bit faster, but in real world performance, its barely noticable. When I get around to it, I will compare my 2nd generation WD Raptor (74 gig, just before they released the 16Mb version), and my 7200.9 300 gig Barracuda.
Just get a late model 7200 rpm hard drive and spend the saved money on a better video card/ processor.
Just get a late model 7200 rpm hard drive and spend the saved money on a better video card/ processor.
cleverhandle
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You can check out the Performance Database at storagereview.com to see the numbers. The Raptor has somewhere around a 10-25% lead in a variety of single-user benchmarks compared to 7200rpm drives.
Subjectively speaking, I would say the difference is more than "barely noticeable". Not enormous, but significant. I agree, though, that you'd be much better off spending your money on RAM, a better video card, a better CPU, and other parts before shelling out extra for a Raptor. As an outrageously general rule of thumb, I'd say if you're spending less than $1000 on a box your money is better spent somewhere other than a Raptor.
Subjectively speaking, I would say the difference is more than "barely noticeable". Not enormous, but significant. I agree, though, that you'd be much better off spending your money on RAM, a better video card, a better CPU, and other parts before shelling out extra for a Raptor. As an outrageously general rule of thumb, I'd say if you're spending less than $1000 on a box your money is better spent somewhere other than a Raptor.
There is a difference, but it's a fraction of a second here, a couple of seconds there. Most of the time the Raptor should be ditched for additional spending on other components.
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I noticed the difference right away when I bought my Raptor.
I put a clean load of Windows on it first thing. Windows boots to the sign on screen in about 10 seconds. Same CPU, memory, video card, etc. The drive is that fast.
I am usually the first person in a map playing BF2 and CS:Source.
Every task I do on my PC is faster with the new drive. I say go for it.
I put a clean load of Windows on it first thing. Windows boots to the sign on screen in about 10 seconds. Same CPU, memory, video card, etc. The drive is that fast.
I am usually the first person in a map playing BF2 and CS:Source.
Every task I do on my PC is faster with the new drive. I say go for it.
Do the 10,000 rpm drives still feel significantly snappier or more instantaneously responsive, even given today's high platter densities?
umm, it's 7.2K RPM and the only difference you might notice is while loading levels. spend the extra money on a faster graphic card instead.
A while back I went from a 36GB Raptor to a normal 7200RPM 200GB 16MB Maxtor which was one of the fastest 7200RPM drives available at the time and I did miss the snappiness of the Raptor.
I needed space, so out with the Raptor it went.
I'll probably pick up a 150GB Raptor when my better half lets me
okay, so if I dont get a the raptor and end up getting say a seagate barracuda instead...
what ram should i blow the extra money on?
what ram should i blow the extra money on?
cleverhandle
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ive already made a thread about ram and the only reply I got was that if i pay more it'll be better....
i want fast running machine and im on an extended budget. i want high end but i wont pay for bleeding edge $600 ram or w/e
heres what it is at the moment
AMD X2 5000+
Asus MVP AM2 board (soon)
either the raptor or the barracuda for HDD
GPU is undecided and im waiting for DX10
RAM---?
help any?
something else to think about when you're talking HDD: you'll probably toss out CPU/RAM/Mobo/grafics rather soon when technology moves on, while the 10k Raptors have been king of the hill now for what? 3 years or so?
My point is that the Raptors will still be top of the line or at least in the top 10 for quite some time to come. In my case, they're the only thing surviving in my current rig from like 2 builds ago. And you will appreciate the faster level loading speed every time you load a level. My .02$
My point is that the Raptors will still be top of the line or at least in the top 10 for quite some time to come. In my case, they're the only thing surviving in my current rig from like 2 builds ago. And you will appreciate the faster level loading speed every time you load a level. My .02$
bad idea? nah
i used to be an intel/nvidia guy but ive decided for this rig i wanna do a 180* and get the opposite
i used to be an intel/nvidia guy but ive decided for this rig i wanna do a 180* and get the opposite
cleverhandle
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Well, they haven't stood still in that time. 7200rpm drives have been steadily improving, and the Raptor has been revised several times (3? 4?) to keep pace. The original 36GB Raptor is certainly not the same thing as the current 150GB one, obvious capacity differences aside. I agree, though, that hard drives have a relatively greater longevity than other components. Drive speed just doesn't increase as quickly as GPU's or CPU's, and for many people the capacity has been sufficient for a long time.
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Not getting replies to a thread should tell you that your post wasn't well-constructed. In that thread, you again provided no context for a decision. People aren't going to waste time trying to read your mind. Take a look at other posts in this forum and pay attention to what kind of information they provide.
Any particular reason for that? Conroe blows AMD out of the water in just about everything. Now that parts are becoming more available (and less price-gouged), I also have a hard time recommending an AMD system at this price point.
$339 for an AMD 5000+ sounds like a good price to me. It'll probably last me long enough too.
is it really THAT much more worth it to go with Conroe?
...funny, I own Intel stock, but I wont invest in their new line , lol
is it really THAT much more worth it to go with Conroe?
...funny, I own Intel stock, but I wont invest in their new line , lol
My experience is 15k scsi is the fastest, next is 10k drives followed by 7200rpm drives.
I work on Opeteron 170 system w/ 2 - 15k drives and 2 - 10k drives. When I go to my customers and work on 3.0Ghz systems w/ 7200rpm drives it is a world of difference ...
I'm getting a 150g raptor just to compare to my 15k/10k scsi drives.
Regards,
Jose
I work on Opeteron 170 system w/ 2 - 15k drives and 2 - 10k drives. When I go to my customers and work on 3.0Ghz systems w/ 7200rpm drives it is a world of difference ...
I'm getting a 150g raptor just to compare to my 15k/10k scsi drives.
Regards,
Jose
AMD x2 is now an antique and you will be ridiculed for buying one. Go conroe.
Raptor HDDs are generally regarded as outrageously overpriced and not worth the money, unless you happen to be Bill Gates. If you really desire extra speed, you can RAID a couple 320gb Seagate Barracudas and have a faster, roomier set up for 1/2 the price of a single 150 gig raptor.
Summary: Core 2. No Raptor. Pie is good.
Raptor HDDs are generally regarded as outrageously overpriced and not worth the money, unless you happen to be Bill Gates. If you really desire extra speed, you can RAID a couple 320gb Seagate Barracudas and have a faster, roomier set up for 1/2 the price of a single 150 gig raptor.
Summary: Core 2. No Raptor. Pie is good.
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