10k rpm, 8MB cache, 5 year warranty, what is it? SATA desktop drive from WD!!

[Lonyo]

The new line of WD?s HDDs will offer 8MB buffer, Serial ATA-150 interface and the glamour 10 000rpm fluid dynamic bearing motors! According to this Japanese web-site, WD plans to offer 5 year limited warranty on the HDD with MTBF of 1.2 million hours. I wonder how much one such baby is going to cost?

here

 

[BD231]

If we're lucky only a tad more than IDE drives at first, but I'd think most likely somewhere inbetween the cost of SCSI and IDE. Hopefully it wont have the problems SCSI dose in XP if people use add-in cards.

 

[Stewie]

Very short article, but from what i see, ME LIKE!

 

[astroview]

It's about time we had 10k IDE drives. I can't wait for them to hit the market!

 

[thorin]

OMFG it's here it's here....... Told you guys all along that the industry would pull something like this out of it's butt as SATA gained acceptance, there is no way they were going to let SATA drive be equal with PATA.

Thorin

 

[UlricT]

ohhhh yeah... this is gonna be GOOD!!! Right along the Barton launch too.....

 

[Pariah]

Is there some reason X-bit couldn't have linked directly to the information rather than calling the source "this Japanese web-site" with a link to the front page that has no mention of it? Not particularly surprising that it's WD. They're the only company without a SCSI division and have nothing to lose by going to 10K in the ATA market. Considering the price premium WD put on the 8MB drive when they were first released you can bet these drives with a 5 year warranty will cost a pretty penny. Just having them on ATA means they can charge SCSI prices and still have sales better than SCSI due to a much larger market that will at least for a while be exclusive to them.

 

[Lonyo]

Maybe they think most people won't be able to read Japanese?

 

[Pariah]

Well then what was the point of linking to the front page?

Does the date February 11th carry any significance, ie. any trade shows or what not?

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: astroview
It's about time we had 10k IDE drives. I can't wait for them to hit the market!

They are not IDE drives,they are SATA drives.

 

[buleyb]

Originally posted by: Pariah
Is there some reason X-bit couldn't have linked directly to the information rather than calling the source "this Japanese web-site" with a link to the front page that has no mention of it? Not particularly surprising that it's WD. They're the only company without a SCSI division and have nothing to lose by going to 10K in the ATA market. Considering the price premium WD put on the 8MB drive when they were first released you can bet these drives with a 5 year warranty will cost a pretty penny. Just having them on ATA means they can charge SCSI prices and still have sales better than SCSI due to a much larger market that will at least for a while be exclusive to them.

Good point, Lets hope WD can force some of the other manufactures that do make SCSI drives to shift over too (and lets hope for a consolidation in the SCSI sector too)...

 

[NFS4]

OK, NOW I'm even more eager up upgrade to Springdale

 

[astroview]

Nice catch Budman I guess I'm not up on the new lingo. I'll just say its great that 10k non-scsi drives are coming out.

 

[vash]

Originally posted by: buleyb

Originally posted by: Pariah
Is there some reason X-bit couldn't have linked directly to the information rather than calling the source "this Japanese web-site" with a link to the front page that has no mention of it? Not particularly surprising that it's WD. They're the only company without a SCSI division and have nothing to lose by going to 10K in the ATA market. Considering the price premium WD put on the 8MB drive when they were first released you can bet these drives with a 5 year warranty will cost a pretty penny. Just having them on ATA means they can charge SCSI prices and still have sales better than SCSI due to a much larger market that will at least for a while be exclusive to them.

Good point, Lets hope WD can force some of the other manufactures that do make SCSI drives to shift over too (and lets hope for a consolidation in the SCSI sector too)...

Sorry to say it, but nope, never gonna happen. SCSI is here to stay, its a server type of solution and will be around a while longer. SCSI is now up to 320mb/sec as the higher-end systems and the 160mb/sec systems are getting cheaper. SATA is getting good FOR THE DESKTOP, but it will be a long time before anyone can consider them sinking into the server environment.

vash

 

[thorin]

Originally posted by: Pariah
Well then what was the point of linking to the front page?

Does the date February 11th carry any significance, ie. any trade shows or what not?

Linking to the front page of the site advertises where the info originated without causing any 'deep linking' issues (which there have been law suits on).

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: astroview
It's about time we had 10k IDE drives. I can't wait for them to hit the market!

They are not IDE drives,they are SATA drives.

I think you mean they're SATA drives not ATA (or PATA) drives, because they definately are IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics) drives.

Originally posted by: Vash
Sorry to say it, but nope, never gonna happen. SCSI is here to stay, its a server type of solution and will be around a while longer. SCSI is now up to 320mb/sec as the higher-end systems and the 160mb/sec systems are getting cheaper. SATA is getting good FOR THE DESKTOP, but it will be a long time before anyone can consider them sinking into the server environment.

Yup I agree SCSI is here to stay, hence Serial Attached SCSI (The best of both worlds SCSI and IDE drives on a unified interface).

Thorin

 

[buleyb]

Originally posted by: vash

Originally posted by: buleyb

Originally posted by: Pariah
Is there some reason X-bit couldn't have linked directly to the information rather than calling the source "this Japanese web-site" with a link to the front page that has no mention of it? Not particularly surprising that it's WD. They're the only company without a SCSI division and have nothing to lose by going to 10K in the ATA market. Considering the price premium WD put on the 8MB drive when they were first released you can bet these drives with a 5 year warranty will cost a pretty penny. Just having them on ATA means they can charge SCSI prices and still have sales better than SCSI due to a much larger market that will at least for a while be exclusive to them.

Good point, Lets hope WD can force some of the other manufactures that do make SCSI drives to shift over too (and lets hope for a consolidation in the SCSI sector too)...

Sorry to say it, but nope, never gonna happen. SCSI is here to stay, its a server type of solution and will be around a while longer. SCSI is now up to 320mb/sec as the higher-end systems and the 160mb/sec systems are getting cheaper. SATA is getting good FOR THE DESKTOP, but it will be a long time before anyone can consider them sinking into the server environment.

vash

Who wants SCSI to disappear? I want the market to tighten up thats all, because right now, setting up a SCSI system can be such a pain (dealing with cable types, connector types, interface speeds, controller types, and then tag in all the compatibility that can be a pain to troubleshoot).

I agree with you, SATA isn't an intended solution for anything above desktop/workstations.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Well it looks like I will be getting my friends "old" hardrives cause I know he will be getting these as soon as they hit the street.

 

[Pariah]

Who wants SCSI to disappear? I want the market to tighten up thats all, because right now, setting up a SCSI system can be such a pain (dealing with cable types, connector types, interface speeds, controller types, and then tag in all the compatibility that can be a pain to troubleshoot).

I don't know why you find SCSI so difficult to cope with. The requirements for a setup have not changed for 5 years, since the release of SCSI2 UW. SATA is far more of a mess right now than SCSI is.

 

[cliftonite]

Man, these look sweet

 

[SexyK]

Man oh man, thinking about a couple of these thrown on a Springdale board with a 3.0GHz/800MHz HT P4 makes me, well, excited. Hopefully i'll be alble to get my hands on this stuff sooner rather than later.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: cliftonite
Man, these look sweet

And they just might be available sometime in 2005. Hard drive makers are still the king of paper launches. Anyway, WD has always been the logical choice as the first to hit 10,000RPM on an ATA drive as they have no SCSI business to worry about depleting. So hopefully it's for real.

 

[CZroe]

They must have sacrificed some capacity! Anyone know if this will support "Tag and Seek" like the new 180GXPs? After all, WD was the first to introduce it to desktop drives back in the day, but stopped after they realized that no IDE controllers would support it for some time. I sure as hell don't want all that head thrashing going on at 10k!

 

[Insane3D]

Now all we need is to get some Southbridges with native S-ATA support and move away from these integrated controller chips that are crippled by the PCI bus they are on...

 

[buleyb]

Originally posted by: Pariah

Who wants SCSI to disappear? I want the market to tighten up thats all, because right now, setting up a SCSI system can be such a pain (dealing with cable types, connector types, interface speeds, controller types, and then tag in all the compatibility that can be a pain to troubleshoot).

I don't know why you find SCSI so difficult to cope with. The requirements for a setup have not changed for 5 years, since the release of SCSI2 UW. SATA is far more of a mess right now than SCSI is.

SCSI setups have changed a lot in 5 years, with all the LVD additions, and the headaches of the SCSI3 standard (which really shouldn't even be called a standard the way it was setup)

EDIT: I'll continue this in a new thread

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Now all we need is to get some Southbridges with native S-ATA support and move away from these integrated controller chips that are crippled by the PCI bus they are on...

I thought Springdale was going to include Intel's new ICH that has native SATA support... could be wrong though...