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[Evadman]

 

[Doomer]

I have a good friend whos little brother is like that. He's in prison.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

tuff love, and suggest him to move far enough away that he doesn't have the same temptations after his system is "cleaned". I've had many family members on crack, heroin, shrooms, weed, and a bunch of other "candy bowl" stuff. The ones that stayed in the area are still addicts, all but 1 of the 5 that moved (about 300miles away) are still clean (as far as I know) after several years.

good luck, my wife and I will be praying everything works out for you and your family.

 

[SinfulWeeper]

The will to stop has to first come from him.
Once that starts there is all kinds of help out there. But first talk to him and make him want to quit... but don't be forceful about it, that will just turn him into a closet junkie.

 

[SoulAssassin]

It sounds like he's on more than crack and weed. As someone who did everything that was put in front of him at one time, the type of hallicinations you're describing aren't typical for either drug (especially crack). It's possible the weed he's getting is laced w PCP or something else or he had a bad trip that's staying with him. Either way it certainly seems like it's time for some professional counseling and an intervention. If his fiance stays with him through this then she has more patience than any girl I've ever met, if she doesn't maybe it will be enough of a shock to the system to do some good. If it wasn't for the wedding, I would say it might do him some good if the cop pressed charges. Although most people I know that pulled a bid came back worse than they went in.

Crack is nasty stuff, I've lost alot of friends over it. Most I'm probably better off not associating with anymore. I watched my roomate get hooked the same summer I quit everything and I've watched his life hit bottom and find new lows over and over again since then. Haven't talked to him in 2-3 years and I'm convinced he's dead by now. It's not too late...

 

[SoulAssassin]

Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
tuff love, and suggest him to move far enough away that he doesn't have the same temptations after his system is "cleaned". I've had many family members on crack, heroin, shrooms, weed, and a bunch of other "candy bowl" stuff. The ones that stayed in the area are still addicts, all but 1 of the 5 that moved (about 300miles away) are still clean (as far as I know) after several years.

Exactly the reason I moved out of Jersey to where I'm at now. There's alot to be said for that. I wish I could say there was some piece of advice that helped me out when in a similar situation, I just realized that my life was going to isht and that's all I was going to be if I stayed on that path. Now I'm 25, just bought a house and drive an '02 Benz completely legit. But anyways...

Moving out of the immediate area is always an option, not necessarily across the country but out of range of any shopping opportunities. A complete change of friends is usually required, if someone keeps staying around the people they used to get high with odds are they'll keep getting high with them. Like Craig said in Friday, "Peer pressure is a m'fer."

 

[winr]

Hi Evadman.
I have a friend whose 30 year old Daughter finally got off dope almost.
She went to a detox place several times.
She still has a longing for drugs when she gets stressed.
Went missing for a day and night only once which is great compared to how she used to be.
I will ask my friend for advice if you wish.

Maybe you can get him a PC and signed up on Anandtech and turn him into a PC geek.
A pretty safe hobby unless you go into off topic.

I wish the best for your brother, you and your Family.

 

[RaySun2Be]

Dasm, Evadman, don't have anything much to offer except to pray for your brother and you and your family.

He's got to want to get help. AA and NA have some good success stories and also have good information for the families of those addicted. Check them out.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: RaySun2Be
Dasm, Evadman, don't have anything much to offer except to pray for your brother and you and your family.

He's got to want to get help. AA and NA have some good success stories and also have good information for the families of those addicted. Check them out.

I agree, but at the stage you brother is currently in, I'd suggest hospitalization, AA & NA still gives him too much freedom IMO

 

[zodder]

As a recovering blow addict (over 5 years clean so far ), I know firsthand how hard it is to standby helplessly as your life spirals out of control. I also know how hard it is for a family to watch a loved one self-destruct, too. There isn't much family members can do until he is ready to stop the madness, though. Unfortunately, that may come at a very high price in regards to relationships, money, friends and family. I just hope his bottom takes place before he ends up hurting himself or other people. The episode you described would sure be enough to make me think twice about where I was heading. I hope it does him, too. Finding it in yourself to get help isn't easy and the road is a bastard of a journey, but living a life you can be proud of is certainly worth it.

 

[xSauronx]

damn...sorry to hear about that
drugs are bad sh!t.....hope you can help him turn things around

 

[amcdonald]

Thats not just crack and weed man, there's something seriously wrong with his head.
The only kind of drug I know of that can make you see things that aren't there AT ALL like that is PCP.
acid and other hallucinogens only manipulate existing input.. I used to do a lot of drugs and pcp is the only one that really took control of my brain...
Either that or he's dangerously crazy... either way he's lucky to be alive after attacking a cop with a knife.

 

[dmcowen674]

So sorry to hear and like Raysun2be said will add him and your family to prayers.

He is very lucky to still be alive and have another chance to get well given the current climate with many in Law enforcement of shooting first and asking questions later. Like someone said, a lot of credit goes to that Officer that risked his life while saving your brother.

 

[panhead49]

yes you can see people and things that ar'nt there if you do enough crack or speed ........sounds like he has done way to much........certain people can handle the drugs(not see things)....some go way over the edge after awhile........good luck with him......as was said he has to want to quit........you cant just move....there are drugs everywhere.....

 

[deerslayer]

Very sorry to hear that!

I've never been in this kind of situation, so I can't really offer any advice. Good luck to you and your family!

 

[BofRA]

I am sorry to here about your bad news. All I can offer is my best wishes and prayers

 

[Piano Man]

Originally posted by: Evadman
No, not a joke.

My brother smoked weed since he was 14, and started dealing when he was 16. At about 16.5 I found out and beat the everloving crap out of him, and to the ebst of my knoledge he stopped doing drugs until he was 20. Then he started doing weed recreationaly (every month or so from what I understand. I bitched about ti and tried to get him to stop because he is better than that.) this turned into every day. About 6 months ago he started doing wierd things like seeing things that weren't there and roaming the house with a knife late at night.

I (and my parents) thought it was just the pressure catching up to him. He is supposed to be getting married on the 12th of next month.

Well, last night he really freaked out and ran after 2 imaginary people when he was over for a visit. (I was not there, but my parents said there wasn't anyone there. ) My parents watched him for a few hours then drove him home and left him with his fianc in their new house. (he seemed fine after his 'run')

I come home to a message on my answering machine. He is in a local hospital. Apparently he smoked some crack and called 911 saying that 20 mexicans were in his house trying to rob him. The cops show up (all of them in the town I think. from what I understand it was 12 squads. ) And find my brother and no one else, and my brother is acting like nothing happened. The cops all leave after a bunch of harsh words. (duh)

About 2 hours later a squad goes back and an officer knocks on the door to make sure there are no more rougue mexicans breaking into the homes. My brother freaks, runs out the back of the house, around to the front, and confronts the cop with 2 butcher knives.

The cop tells my brother to drop the knives, but my brother does not respond fast enough and the cop attempts to disarm him. (IMHO this is a bonehead move by the cop) in the ensuing scuffle my brother cuts the cop across the wrist (thank god it was not deep). The cops (expecialy the one who was cut) now have my utmost respect for not shooting him.

Thankfully, the cop is not pressing charges, at least not yet. The entire family is going to the hospital tommorow to get him some help. He tested positive for crack and weed.

Anyone else been through something like this and can give me some advice? We will get all the medical information tommorow, so I don't need that info.

had a good friend who got addicted to that sh!t. His life went down......fast. It came to a climax when he slashed his wrists and started writing sh!t with his blood. We called up his folks and drove him to a rehab clinic, with him kicking and screaming the whole way. He has always had an addictive personality. He had already gone through rehab for alcohol, but crack is way worse. Well, he kicked the stuff, but his knew addiction is God, and he gets kind of weird about it. But hey, anything is better than crack.

 

[HayHauler]

My prayers are with you bro.....

 

[aberant]

my brother when he was a lot younger got into the wrong circles, and did everything he could get his hands on, thankfully not that much as i live in a semi-rural area. At the peak of this time he was dealing various drugs including acid and whizz. He got arrested and charged with dealing and they said they were going to lock him away and throw away the key. He absolutely sh*t himself (bearing in mind he was about 15 at this point) at the thought of being in prison, and that's what turned him around. He was very scared, though. So my input would be he needs a big shock to snap him out of it, and then more patience and understanding from friends and family than you though you even had within you. My brother recently completed his Music Technology degree and is retraining in webdesign. If it wasn't for him getting arrested he'd be dead by now. He still does blow now and then, but in comparison its nothing. Good luck man, in the hard times ahead try and find a place you can escape to when you need a rest.