1090T bottlenecking 6870?

[fourdegrees11]

Who said anything about 60fps? Op's claiming TEENS!****SARCASAM**** Obviously it's the CPU****SARCASAM****, there's no evidence in this thread being mindlessly ignored proving otherwise...

 

[ocre]

You really think I bought a 1090T just so I can slag off a few AMD biased anandtech forumgoers? Thanks Ocre for atleast not being completely mindless.

And my my power supply is an eXtreme 650w, it can't be that, I've ran furmark and prime95 at the same time to ensure stability, I'm downloading 3dmark11 now to bench my system to make sure it's up to par, but I'm benching a solid 7.2 on cinebench on this overclock which seems to be right where it should be.

the cenebench sounds good. much higher than my score would be. thats a good sign for the CPU. interestingly..... lets see what some 3d benchmarks say. 3dmark is good, maybe even try heaven. We need to see where its failing at.

Do you have skyrim patched and up to date? might sound dumb but i thought i would ask.

 

[eltocliousus]

It's on steam so it's auto update, I believe it to be up to date yes.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Who said anything about 60fps? Op's claiming TEENS! Obviously it's the CPU, there's no evidence in this thread being mindlessly ignored proving otherwise...

It's obviously not the CPU when i'm easily getting 60 fps all over the price.

 

[Vesku]

Yep, I guess fourdegrees just skipped over where we showed our 1090Ts being fine with decent GPUs and Skyrim. Something is wrong with his particular system not the 1090Ts in general.

 

[fourdegrees11]

Yep, I guess fourdegrees just skipped over where we showed our 1090Ts being fine with decent GPUs and Skyrim. Something is wrong with his particular system not the 1090Ts in general.

Huh? Maybe you should reread my post

 

[eltocliousus]

Ok I ran 3dmark11, got a score of P4461 3DMarks which doesn't mean much to me but hopefully it's where it should be?
Specifics:

 

[tweakboy]

I've had problems with performance before on my E8200 & 6870, I didn't expect to get great performance on that dual core but I remember playing GTA4/Arma2 and others with friends (one had a dual core Athlon, the other a Q8300, both with 5770's) and they'd be bragging about playing them with fantastic frames and high to max settings, while I with a superior computer to both (except maybe the Q8300 beating my E8200) was sat on medium lagging my ass off, I just clocked it up to them lying for the sake of it but maybe not.
Even now my Q8400/5770 friend is playing Skyrim max'd with 4xAA with a constant 30+fps, and I can count my FPS with my hands at points.

Tweakboy, can you give me a link to what drivers I need exactly? I may be asking a bit much but I'm a little confused on what you mean, a quick link to the driver I need for my XFX 1gb 6870(is it tray tools or something?) would definitely improve my night tenfold.

ATI Latest WHQL.
http://www.guru3d.com/news/amd-catalyst-1111-whql-driver-download/

ATI Tray Tools updated to now work with 6xxx series.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-tray-tools-/

Directions.
1. boot up comp keep pressing F8 and go into safe mode. Uninstall all ATI junk. Then run driver cleaner and remove all ATI stuff. Then reboot and go back into safe mode and install the latest drivers listed above. Do not install CCC. Then after installation is done reboot and go into normal mode and install ATI Tray Tools. Then let us know about performance. gl :thumbsup:

 

[IGemini]

Last idea I have is try turning off VSync. Try it BEFORE nuking your drivers. Instructions here:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/11/t...e-graphics-disable-vsync-change-fov-and-more/

 

[ocre]

Ok I ran 3dmark11, got a score of P4461 3DMarks which doesn't mean much to me but hopefully it's where it should be?
Specifics:

There is supposed to be a huge difference in skyrim with the OS. Windows 7 is way faster than XP, like 40% i heard.

 

[ocre]

This shows your card should be faster than a stock 460 at ultra settings

http://www.techspot.com/review/467-skyrim-performance/page5.html

my card is overclocked to 850 though. and i am i have a few more settings up.
I am running ultra plus 16af. with the advanced water reflections all checked.

you should be getting frame rates like mine. on ultra.

 

[eltocliousus]

I'm on windows 7 already sadly.

 

[RavenSEAL]

I'm on windows 7 already sadly.

Just reinstall windows 7 already and see if it makes a difference, everything else seems to check out ok.

 

[Markfw]

ALL. This post is as a user, and not a mod, but I will be back as a mod if some of you don't listen. Facts I have observed:

1) It appears this game only uses 2 cores
2) Yes Sandybridge has better IPC
3) Many here with the same or similar setup appear to get much more FPS than the OP. This makes 1 and 2 a mute point.

This is as a mod

Please concentrate on helping the OP based on point number 3

Happy Turkey day to all !!!

 

[eltocliousus]

I assume IPC means better performance per core?

 

[Markfw]

I assume IPC means better performance per core?

Per core per mhz. Meaning, a dual-core Sandybridge at 4 ghz is 30% better performer than an X6 1090T @ 4 ghz that only has 2 cores enabled.

(the % is a total guess,don't even quote me on that)

But again, many here with almost identical systems say you should have no problem, so they need to help you figure out why yours doesn't work as well as theirs.

Thats the only point the should be pursued at this point.

 

[Duvie]

I assume IPC means better performance per core?

IPC = mean Instructions Per Clock cycle...The number of instructions that can be executed by a CPU in one tick of the clock

Sandy Bridge IPC is higher then AMD chip and therefore simialr clocked cores results in better performance for the sandy bridge chip. If you overclock the sandy bridge chips higher which I believe is the case most times than you get even a higher performance difference.

 

[eltocliousus]

Oh I see, makes sense.
I can't really try any fixes until saturday as I stupidly deleted the game from my SSD thinking I'd already duplicated it to a storage drive but I hadn't, saturday is when I get proper internet installed so I can grab it then and possible reinstall windows if the problem persists through.

Just want to thank everyone that tried to help, I very much appreciate it and hopefully I can fix it for the weekend.

 

[zlejedi]

I appreciate the help ocre.
Changing the AA doesn't change performance at all (a huge tell that it's the CPU acting up (or the game as people have said) and not the GPU).
What I'm really confused about is why my 1090T which I know has 6 cores and skyrim only uses two, but I assume core for core my CPU is better than a Q6600 or E8200 (at 4ghz/2800mhz NB surely?) and still performs less core for core in skyrim.

Hmm no it isn't better you have same IPC as E8200 so if you were running E8200 @ 4,0 you are getting the same performance.

 

[soccerballtux]

Op what motherboard do you have?

 

[eltocliousus]

M4A89GTD-PRO/USB3

And I understand my IPC being similar to my E8200 (Makes sense, E8200 is still a decently fast dual core, strap three of those together and you get a 1090T), but people with 1090T's or worse IPC processors are getting much better performance, I never pass 35fps unless I'm in a cave/dungeon.

 

[soccerballtux]

go into the bios and disable integrated graphics if it isn't already

 

[guskline]

Markfw900: What settings in the BIOS for your 1090T rig do you have to get it stable at 4Ghz?

 

[cebalrai]

Skyrim is CPU limited, yes. But even i7 SB users are getting disappointing fps, especially in towns. The game is a shoddy console port, poorly optimized for PC. :thumbsdown:

Meanwhile people with older CPUs such as Core 2 Duos and Athlon X2s are getting reasonably good frame rates, far closer to high-end CPUs than they should.

And don't get me started about Skyrim's cap of 2 GB of memory space for no good reason.

:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

Who said anything about 60fps? Op's claiming TEENS! Obviously it's the CPU, there's no evidence in this thread being mindlessly ignored proving otherwise...

Nah it's not the CPU. I'm getting 35-45 fps on a core 2 duo on high/ultra settings.

 

[fourdegrees11]

Who said anything about 60fps? Op's claiming TEENS!****SARCASAM**** Obviously it's the CPU****SARCASAM****, there's no evidence in this thread being mindlessly ignored proving otherwise...

Holy balls, post edited to reflect the lack of reading comprehension in this thread.