1080p gaming

[tigersty1e]

So if you play a game in 1080p, do you get less framerates than if you play non 1080p?

 

[TheUnk]

It will all depend on the game.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Well assuming letter of the law adherence the standards in question 720P will be at 60FPS and 1080P will be at 24FPS. Does it always work this way....nope

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

 

[EvilComputer92]

1080p support has been a joke in consoles so far. Upscaling looks abysmal and is not substitute for native 1920x1080. For all the attention 1080p has been getting this generation, I doubt it will become a standard in triple A titles. Current consoles just cannot handle such high resolutions, render everything else well, and still maintain a playable framerate around 25-35 fps.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

Yes, very few games support true 1080p. Why? Because you'll get a much lower framerate than at 720p. There is no magic in the PS3, its bound to the same limitations that prevent you from getting the same framerate at 1920x1080 as you do at 1280x720 on a PC.

Sure, they can program a game to run at 60fps at 1080p, but it would be missing a lot of detail that could otherwise have been there at 720p or *gasp* 480p.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

Yes, very few games support true 1080p. Why? Because you'll get a much lower framerate than at 720p. There is no magic in the PS3, its bound to the same limitations that prevent you from getting the same framerate at 1920x1080 as you do at 1280x720 on a PC.

Sure, they can program a game to run at 60fps at 1080p, but it would be missing a lot of detail that could otherwise have been there at 720p or *gasp* 480p.

Ya, sometimes people don't realize that jumping from 480i/p to 720p, and then on 1080p is the same exact thing as upping the resolution in PC games. Don't be fooled by the single number and letter, it's just a higher resolution. Just like in PC gaming, a higher resolution takes much more processing to render, and the 360 and PS3 aren't quite powerful enough to pump out a bunch of 1080-native games. Titles such as Vitua Tennis 3 are native 1080p because there just isn't that much going on, so they will push less polygons and effects and are able to get that higher resolution.

 

[inveterate]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

Yes, very few games support true 1080p. Why? Because you'll get a much lower framerate than at 720p. There is no magic in the PS3, its bound to the same limitations that prevent you from getting the same framerate at 1920x1080 as you do at 1280x720 on a PC.

Sure, they can program a game to run at 60fps at 1080p, but it would be missing a lot of detail that could otherwise have been there at 720p or *gasp* 480p.

Ya, sometimes people don't realize that jumping from 480i/p to 720p, and then on 1080p is the same exact thing as upping the resolution in PC games. Don't be fooled by the single number and letter, it's just a higher resolution. Just like in PC gaming, a higher resolution takes much more processing to render, and the 360 and PS3 aren't quite powerful enough to pump out a bunch of 1080-native games. Titles such as Vitua Tennis 3 are native 1080p because there just isn't that much going on, so they will push less polygons and effects and are able to get that higher resolution.

Do you play RR7. There is alot of detail in that game, and I can absolutely tell it's 1080 compared to 720, and the frames are the same

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: inveterate

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

Yes, very few games support true 1080p. Why? Because you'll get a much lower framerate than at 720p. There is no magic in the PS3, its bound to the same limitations that prevent you from getting the same framerate at 1920x1080 as you do at 1280x720 on a PC.

Sure, they can program a game to run at 60fps at 1080p, but it would be missing a lot of detail that could otherwise have been there at 720p or *gasp* 480p.

Ya, sometimes people don't realize that jumping from 480i/p to 720p, and then on 1080p is the same exact thing as upping the resolution in PC games. Don't be fooled by the single number and letter, it's just a higher resolution. Just like in PC gaming, a higher resolution takes much more processing to render, and the 360 and PS3 aren't quite powerful enough to pump out a bunch of 1080-native games. Titles such as Vitua Tennis 3 are native 1080p because there just isn't that much going on, so they will push less polygons and effects and are able to get that higher resolution.

Do you play RR7. There is alot of detail in that game, and I can absolutely tell it's 1080 compared to 720, and the frames are the same

If it didnt have to worry about 1080p, it would have looked/ran better at 720p.

I dont even think 50% of people with next gen systems have HDTVs - those with 1080p sets are probably 2-5%. Why go through all the trouble of building for 1080p considering its drawbacks when so few people can experience it?

 

[inveterate]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: inveterate

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

Yes, very few games support true 1080p. Why? Because you'll get a much lower framerate than at 720p. There is no magic in the PS3, its bound to the same limitations that prevent you from getting the same framerate at 1920x1080 as you do at 1280x720 on a PC.

Sure, they can program a game to run at 60fps at 1080p, but it would be missing a lot of detail that could otherwise have been there at 720p or *gasp* 480p.

Ya, sometimes people don't realize that jumping from 480i/p to 720p, and then on 1080p is the same exact thing as upping the resolution in PC games. Don't be fooled by the single number and letter, it's just a higher resolution. Just like in PC gaming, a higher resolution takes much more processing to render, and the 360 and PS3 aren't quite powerful enough to pump out a bunch of 1080-native games. Titles such as Vitua Tennis 3 are native 1080p because there just isn't that much going on, so they will push less polygons and effects and are able to get that higher resolution.

Do you play RR7. There is alot of detail in that game, and I can absolutely tell it's 1080 compared to 720, and the frames are the same

If it didnt have to worry about 1080p, it would have looked/ran better at 720p.

I dont even think 50% of people with next gen systems have HDTVs - those with 1080p sets are probably 2-5%. Why go through all the trouble of building for 1080p considering its drawbacks when so few people can experience it?

Cuz it's better to push people for expensive TVs. DUH,, they're trying to stuff lcds and plasmas into everyone's home. I am a victim with 6lcds.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: inveterate

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: inveterate

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

Yes, very few games support true 1080p. Why? Because you'll get a much lower framerate than at 720p. There is no magic in the PS3, its bound to the same limitations that prevent you from getting the same framerate at 1920x1080 as you do at 1280x720 on a PC.

Sure, they can program a game to run at 60fps at 1080p, but it would be missing a lot of detail that could otherwise have been there at 720p or *gasp* 480p.

Ya, sometimes people don't realize that jumping from 480i/p to 720p, and then on 1080p is the same exact thing as upping the resolution in PC games. Don't be fooled by the single number and letter, it's just a higher resolution. Just like in PC gaming, a higher resolution takes much more processing to render, and the 360 and PS3 aren't quite powerful enough to pump out a bunch of 1080-native games. Titles such as Vitua Tennis 3 are native 1080p because there just isn't that much going on, so they will push less polygons and effects and are able to get that higher resolution.

Do you play RR7. There is alot of detail in that game, and I can absolutely tell it's 1080 compared to 720, and the frames are the same

If it didnt have to worry about 1080p, it would have looked/ran better at 720p.

I dont even think 50% of people with next gen systems have HDTVs - those with 1080p sets are probably 2-5%. Why go through all the trouble of building for 1080p considering its drawbacks when so few people can experience it?

Cuz it's better to push people for expensive TVs. DUH,, they're trying to stuff lcds and plasmas into everyone's home. I am a victim with 6lcds.

Well, if youre so victimized by your LCDs, I can always be your heroic night in shining armor to come and save you from them. I specialize in 40"+. 😛

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: inveterate

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: inveterate

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Most of the time your consoles image will just be upscaled from 720p to 1080p. Not many games support native 1080p.

you sure about that?

Yes, very few games support true 1080p. Why? Because you'll get a much lower framerate than at 720p. There is no magic in the PS3, its bound to the same limitations that prevent you from getting the same framerate at 1920x1080 as you do at 1280x720 on a PC.

Sure, they can program a game to run at 60fps at 1080p, but it would be missing a lot of detail that could otherwise have been there at 720p or *gasp* 480p.

Ya, sometimes people don't realize that jumping from 480i/p to 720p, and then on 1080p is the same exact thing as upping the resolution in PC games. Don't be fooled by the single number and letter, it's just a higher resolution. Just like in PC gaming, a higher resolution takes much more processing to render, and the 360 and PS3 aren't quite powerful enough to pump out a bunch of 1080-native games. Titles such as Vitua Tennis 3 are native 1080p because there just isn't that much going on, so they will push less polygons and effects and are able to get that higher resolution.

Do you play RR7. There is alot of detail in that game, and I can absolutely tell it's 1080 compared to 720, and the frames are the same

If it didnt have to worry about 1080p, it would have looked/ran better at 720p.

I dont even think 50% of people with next gen systems have HDTVs - those with 1080p sets are probably 2-5%. Why go through all the trouble of building for 1080p considering its drawbacks when so few people can experience it?

Cuz it's better to push people for expensive TVs. DUH,, they're trying to stuff lcds and plasmas into everyone's home. I am a victim with 6lcds.

Sony would do that, they sell TVs, but Microsoft has no reason to beyond customer satisfaction.

 

[Adn4n]

I saw a list at another forum of 360 games that support 1080p. Not all of the ones listed were confirmed to be true 1080, only a handful were. There were only 30 on the list. Gears isn't one of them btw.