Question 1080p@144Hz displayport or hdmi to dual link dvi-d

[angry.pidgeon]

Hello


I need to preserve my XL2411T monitor's capacity to run in 1080P@144Hz. That is only possible through its dual link dvi-d port


Alternatively if adapter too expensive, I can live with 1080P@60Hz if the cable is much cheaper. Internet sais "HDMI 1.4 can support up to 144Hz at 1920×1080", but also sais XL2411T has "HDMI 1.4. The monitor will be limited to 60 Hz input at 1080p over HDMI though, which is a contradiction, but possible, so unless confirmed I can run in HDMI 1.4 144Hz at 1920×1080, and just need a HDMI cable, I need an adapter fro my DUAL LINK DVI-D cable


"RTX 4070 comes with three DisplayPort 1.4 ports capable of up to 240Hz at 4K with Display Stream Compression (DSC) and one HDMI 2.1 port that can push up to 60Hz at 8K with DSC"

I therefore need the cheapest least headaches solution of either displayport to dual link dvi-d or hdmi to dual link dvi-d


Suggestions?


P.S. I read that "Does HDMI support DVI dual link?

HDMI vs DVI: What's the best AV input? | ITPro

The two cables are interoperable as they use the same standard, so through the use of an adapter both HDMI and DVI can plug into the port of another with no effect on the quality of the carried signal."


so would it be as cheap as this?


(I plug in my existing DVI-D cable, and the adapter in the video card) DVI-I Dual Link(24+5pin) Female to HDMI-compatible Male Converter Adapter HDTV D

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(I buy an HMDI cable, and the adapter in the monitor) DVI-D Digital 24+1 Male to HDMI Socket Adapter Converter Joiner GOLD [005695]

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[aigomorla]

you want something that's first off Bidirectional.
That means it doesn't matter how you connect it, it should work.

Second, i don't know if you can get 144hz off a bidirectional adapter even.
You can try, but it might be a better solution just to get a new monitor as monitor tech has gotten much better, and you probably want something with Gsync since you have a RTX 4070.

So my suggestion, as much as you don't want to replace your monitor, i am recommending that you do with Gsync + HDR compatibility, as it will help a lot especially at 144hz.

And these two features are worth it if your a gamer.

 

[angry.pidgeon]

you want something that's first off Bidirectional.
That means it doesn't matter how you connect it, it should work.

Second, i don't know if you can get 144hz off a bidirectional adapter even.
You can try, but it might be a better solution just to get a new monitor as monitor tech has gotten much better, and you probably want something with Gsync since you have a RTX 4070.

So my suggestion, as much as you don't want to replace your monitor, i am recommending that you do with Gsync + HDR compatibility, as it will help a lot especially at 144hz.

And these two features are worth it if your a gamer.

After some research, I'm sure I can't get a dual DVI-D to HDMI adapter, they're all single and capped at 60 Hz. Supposedly I can spend 10 times more on a displayport to dual dvi-d, and will render at 144 Hz. A new monitor is 100 times more expensive than the adapter...

I made my peace that 60 Hz is the limit of human perception anyway. Bonuses: lower temperature, higher stability, less electricity consumed. The video card can be capped at 60 Hz.
Hidden bonus: some games cheat to achieve 120 Hz, like hide shadows, worsening texture resolution... seen an youtube video about differences...

Actually I can tell the difference when changing to 120 Hz and moving that change resolution window about in circles, it feel more natural and the text is less fuzzy and more readable, but it could be because of crappy windows graphics engine, since it makes no sense that something as simple as a window and a bunch of text would render so crappy. That window doesn't look perfect even at 120 or 144 Hz. Stuff that moves fast still is a blur in my eyes

Makes no sense to me that I can do 144 Hz now on dual DVI-D, but can't with any adapter 11 years after I bought my PC. I feel ripped off

 

[angry.pidgeon]

I was wrong, you can tell the 120Hz difference. You can test in testufo.com using Chrome

So I bought this hack:
VisionTek DisplayPort to DVI-D Dual Link Active Adapter
and hope for the best

If not, have to buy a new monitor perhaps

 

[aigomorla]

If not, have to buy a new monitor perhaps

This is my advice....
With HDR, and Gsync, it really makes it worthwhile.
Gsync especially helps with frame shuttering, especially when you deal with lots of variable frame rates.

 

[OlyAR15]

You can buy a cheap DP to DVI cable:
https://www.primecables.ca/p-347381...SUtxmcYW9l16DcpPNUfmFgaAqKxEALw_wcB#sku348047

But you are far better off getting a new monitor. Using a TN panel in this day and age should be considered a crime against humanity.

 

[angry.pidgeon]

This is my advice....
With HDR, and Gsync, it really makes it worthwhile.
Gsync especially helps with frame shuttering, especially when you deal with lots of variable frame rates.

I need a solid argument like testufo.com. Without it I would've bought a 5 credits adapter. I've seen G-Sync on youtube, it's impressive, however...

1. I've also seen what Vsync ON and buffering can do, meaning virtually the same thing. Cheapest monitor with G-Sync is ~111 credits, while a mainstream firm one is like 270. That converter hack was ~36 credits, if it works... has only about 5ms lag (unnoticeable supposedly, but might jitter and I have to see for myself)
1.1 Since I will be playing on 1080p HD/High tops (hopefully), it's safe to assume I will always have 120 fps (benchmarks show 120 fps on average for 1440p, I believe with Vsync ON, Ultra etc.

2. On my 24" monitor I'm already having to move my eyes to look at the edges of the screen, meaning it covers my main view, and peripheral view. Any larger, and I would get more eye strain. This would be a tough argument to beat, meaning, why buy any larger diagonal or resolution? Accidentally, looking through google Q&A found this: "Gaming options in this size tend to have high refresh rates with a 1080p resolution, which makes it easier for your graphics card to hit high frame rates" and "Because of their smaller size, 24-inch screens allow gamers to see everything without turning their heads too drastically. This makes gaming that much easier because every missing clue can be spotted in time."
2.1. buying a larger diagonal, is to support a higher but cheaper resolution than a higher one at the same diagonal. Again, google Q&A: "1080p is best suited to 24-inch screens, while 1440p is ideal for 27-inch monitors". I watched 1080p vs 1440p vs 2160p, and the difference is noticeable only in vegetation and overall sharpness. I would be nice to have it, but not at the cost of frame rate. RTX 4070 can barely handle 120 fps in 1440p meaning it will spike below, and what I saw is probably it running on a higher end system than mine, so 1080p is best still at my chosen budget - meaning I can afford better but can't see a large improvement

3. most importantly "GSync with VSync will use GSync when below the monitor's maximum refresh rate, then switch to VSync when you go over it", and, "If you have VSync off, the frame rate is free run above the refresh rate of the display – G-SYNC disables itself and tearing ensues". This means:
3.1 obligatory VSync ON meaning lower frame rates regardless of GSync, and my priority is stable high fps not picture quality, meaning above my monitor's refresh, meaning a conflict
3.2 if I make it that I am always at a higher frame rate in my GPU than my monitor (meaning 120 fps threshold, by lowering quality), then I can run VSync OFF meaning even higher frame rate. I'm not experiencing that much Vsync issues (tearing) to remember and I"m always gaming with VSync OFF. Most importantly, I can software cap my GPU at 120 fps and run my monitor at 120 fps and experience no tearing at all. With buffering, this would improve stability

Conclusion: by making better use of my brain, I can avoid issues entirely, and isn't that the whole point?

 

[angry.pidgeon]

You can buy a cheap DP to DVI cable:
https://www.primecables.ca/p-347381...SUtxmcYW9l16DcpPNUfmFgaAqKxEALw_wcB#sku348047

But you are far better off getting a new monitor. Using a TN panel in this day and age should be considered a crime against humanity.

All cable adapters (passive) to dual DVI-D are guaranteed to run at 60 fps tops, not matter what they say. It's funny in how many ways they hide this fact in the details.
The converter (active) I bought, if I drew the lucky ticket, might run at 120/144 fps which is my monitor's refresh. At least 3 reviews confirm it, including a very detailed one.

I aim at 120 fps now because that's a huge improvement as testufo.com proves (I can actually look at the moving background, instead of seeing a blur mostly)

If I had money to burn I would just buy any top 10000 credits computer and I wouldn't be here making a budget and worthiness argument ... which is actually part of the game So if you notice my last argument above, I don't have any reason to buy a new monitor at all (if the converter works). XL2411T even has that 1ms low latency they say