Question 1070Ti black screen with fan full speed after entering Windows 10

[Massive79]

Hi all

I'm experiencing black screen with GPU fan in all speed a moment after entering Windows 10.

My spec is :
ASUS P6X58D premium
Intel W5680@4.4Ghz@1.3125v with Noctua D14. Speedstep and C1 enabled.
Colorful 1070Ti 8GB (have 2xPCIE 8pin)
Corsair 32GB PC 3200 Triple Channel@1704 (4x8GB)
Seasonic X760 Gold
ADATA SX8200 Pro on PCIE slot 2 (system file)
Samsung 860 EVO 512GB on Mobo Marvel SATA3
Samsung 860 QVO (System file backup) on Mobo Marvel SATA 3
Seagate LP - 2TB & WD Black 1TB on Intel X58
USB 3 converter on PCIE slot 3
Auzentech Prelude SC on PCI
Monitor MSI MAG271CQR
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M SE

What I've done :
1. Update drivers with the current one --> problem still exist
2. Boot to my backup Windows 10system in Samsung QVO which is first after I install it (I can assume this is like installing Windows 10 fresh) --> problem still exist
3. Check my RAM with memtest --> 12 hours with no error
4. Change my VGA, with Gigabyte 1070Ti (have 1x PCIE 8pin) --> same error happened...black screen and fan full speed moment after entering Windows 10 desktop.
(This gigabyte card has been opened and changed to thermal grizzly Kryonaut as some website suggesting to try to change thermalpaste which is didn't work for me.)
5. Change my VGA with an 9800GT (with no PCIE pin)--> fixed all problem. Windows 10 is normal
(what funny is, after changing it to 9800GT, my shutdown problem dissapear. Previously with 1070Ti everytime I shutdown my computer, it turned back on again always, I have to force shutdown in PSU or by long pressing power button)
5. Lastly, go to Windows 10 safe mode with 1070 Ti, and it is all normal, no black screen or crash etc. I turn it on in safe mode for 12 hours just to test it. (Do safe mode load GPU?)

Before that error happened, I was playing Assassin Creed Oddysey, and it suddenly come into desktop, and not long after that the black screen and GPU fan full speed happened.
This had happened previously, but with several restart and force shut down it not happening again. Everything ok for more less 3 weeks, until now.

I'm suspecting my PSU or my motherboard, as my PSU is more like 8 or 10 years in use, but in AIDA the PSU rail seem ok, like below :

CPU Core	1.304 V
+3.3 V	3.232 V
+5 V	5.016 V
+12 V	12.096 V
+5 V Standby	5.139 V
Battery Input	217.000 V
Battery Output	217.000 V
GPU Core	1.050 V

I'm afraid if I change my PSU and it turn out that it is my mobo, as I'm aware that mobo PCIE slot also give around + 75w power to VGA, which can also lead to PCIE slot not giving enough power to Mobo.

Is there anything that I check you up with before changing my PSU or mobo?

Or does someone have experiencing this before and have specific workaround?

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Try resetting your bios? Dunno why your fan speed is jumping to max speeds and staying that way before windows. when i turn on my PC, my fan does max out for 2-3 seconds, but thats normal and it drops down before windows login.

 

[Massive79]

A motherboard can certainly damage a GPU, or any PCI-E device really. But I have never heard of a monitor damaging a GPU. Anything can happen, but it would seem the more likely culprit is the Motherboard.

In what way a motherboard damage a GPU?

How to check if my motherboard potentially damage my GPU?

Try resetting your bios? Dunno why your fan speed is jumping to max speeds and staying that way before windows. when i turn on my PC, my fan does max out for 2-3 seconds, but thats normal and it drops down before windows login.

What do you mean by resetting BIOS?

Fan speed jumping to max only for GPU fan speed, CPU fan just stay normal.

 

[Stuka87]

In what way a motherboard damage a GPU?

How to check if my motherboard potentially damage my GPU?




What do you mean by resetting BIOS?

Fan speed jumping to max only for GPU fan speed, CPU fan just stay normal.

While many GPU's have PCI-E power going straight to them, the motherboard is also able to send up to 75W of power to the card. So there is always the potential of having power on an incorrect pin. There is also any number of potential issues that can cause wrong data/power on the other pins. I have seen it happen before, and it was a major pain to diagnose.

I believe he means resetting the CMOS on the motherboard. You can do this via a jumper on the motherboard normally, but can also be done from inside the computers EFI menu.

 

[wmnasrulwr]

I'm having the same problem too with my Asus 1070ti strix SLI. At first i disabled my wallpaper engine which i thought was the cause. Then it keeps happening, at first when it only freezes for a few seconds ingame. Then it starts to black screen while the fans blow on max. Come to think of it, it started after i updated to the latest 445.75 driver...

 

[IEC]

Most likely: this is an nVidia driver 445.75 issue.

Workaround is to download a previous version, uninstall 445.75, and install the previous driver version.

Download The Latest Official NVIDIA Drivers

Download the latest official NVIDIA drivers to enhance your PC gaming experience and run apps faster.

www.nvidia.com

e.g. 442.74

 

[Massive79]

I believe he means resetting the CMOS on the motherboard. You can do this via a jumper on the motherboard normally, but can also be done from inside the computers EFI menu.

I've tried this no luck still the same. and I even change my motherboard battery with the new one.

Most likely: this is an nVidia driver 445.75 issue.

Workaround is to download a previous version, uninstall 445.75, and install the previous driver version.

Download The Latest Official NVIDIA Drivers

Download the latest official NVIDIA drivers to enhance your PC gaming experience and run apps faster.

www.nvidia.com

e.g. 442.74

I'm aware that this is coincidentally also happened after I install 445.75.


By the way, I bought an 1080, and the system is having no problem in the last 3 days on HDMI connection.

But I still can not make conclusion on the cause since it can be PSU, which I already change now anyway, or other. But I think we can list out my motherboard as the problem is it is working ok now, and my other 2 1070Ti is still having an error (Colorful 1070Ti refused to install driver, and Gigabyte 1070Ti sometimes detected (everything ok if detected in BIOS, but sometimes it don't even detected in BIOS).

I'm having second though on the cause, since I recently also bought new monitor MSI MAG271CQR too, and not long after that I'm getting all the symptoms.

I also always using display port connector on all damaged VGA. After doing some research on the internet I found several thing as follow :
1. [PSA] Please do not use DP cables provided with monitors, it can damage your GPU
2. Check your display port
3. Avoid graphics card damage - The DisplayPort Pin 20 Issue Explained
4. The DisplayPort Pin 20 Problem - from monitor insider

I have a multimeter but I don't know how to use it to check my display port cable which provided by MSI along with the monitor. I'm buying a display port cable checker, and a new display port cable verified by vendor to have pin 20 disconnected. When that cable checker arrive, I will check those both cables, and if MSI cable is having connected with power on the PIN 20, I think MSI must responsible on damaging both of my GPUs.

In the meantime I'm using HDMI cable just to be save, and have no problem in these 3 days, and also the whinning sound from my monitor in desktop and in my gaming reduced significantly.

I'll update it when the cable tester arrive.

 

[killster1]

I've tried this no luck still the same. and I even change my motherboard battery with the new one.



I'm aware that this is coincidentally also happened after I install 445.75.


By the way, I bought an 1080, and the system is having no problem in the last 3 days on HDMI connection.

But I still can not make conclusion on the cause since it can be PSU, which I already change now anyway, or other. But I think we can list out my motherboard as the problem is it is working ok now, and my other 2 1070Ti is still having an error (Colorful 1070Ti refused to install driver, and Gigabyte 1070Ti sometimes detected (everything ok if detected in BIOS, but sometimes it don't even detected in BIOS).

I'm having second though on the cause, since I recently also bought new monitor MSI MAG271CQR too, and not long after that I'm getting all the symptoms.

I also always using display port connector on all damaged VGA. After doing some research on the internet I found several thing as follow :
1. [PSA] Please do not use DP cables provided with monitors, it can damage your GPU
2. Check your display port
3. Avoid graphics card damage - The DisplayPort Pin 20 Issue Explained
4. The DisplayPort Pin 20 Problem - from monitor insider

I have a multimeter but I don't know how to use it to check my display port cable which provided by MSI along with the monitor. I'm buying a display port cable checker, and a new display port cable verified by vendor to have pin 20 disconnected. When that cable checker arrive, I will check those both cables, and if MSI cable is having connected with power on the PIN 20, I think MSI must responsible on damaging both of my GPUs.

In the meantime I'm using HDMI cable just to be save, and have no problem in these 3 days, and also the whinning sound from my monitor in desktop and in my gaming reduced significantly.

I'll update it when the cable tester arrive.

ok since i have the same gpu and same issues ill chime in. i just put a 1080ti in the box and it has worked fine with no driver changes since that day (funny it happened just 4 days ago on 12 year olds box) i took the 1070ti out and put the 1080ti in and works perfect. what i read was that it was either GPU or PSU, i saw alot of people with the paste degrade on their gpu causing same issues. so when i have time i will take it apart and repaste it. (the gpu looks flawless not even dusty but who knows what the paste looks like). i feel like a stronger GPU is working fine then the hx750 powering it should be OK. Of course maybe the motherboard killed the last gpu and just hasnt killed this one yet (z77 assrock extreme 6 due for a upgrade when 4000 series hits) i will have to check what drivers are installed, i doubt they are anything new, unless he updated it recently himself.

 

[Massive79]

ok since i have the same gpu and same issues ill chime in. i just put a 1080ti in the box and it has worked fine with no driver changes since that day (funny it happened just 4 days ago on 12 year olds box) i took the 1070ti out and put the 1080ti in and works perfect. what i read was that it was either GPU or PSU, i saw alot of people with the paste degrade on their gpu causing same issues. so when i have time i will take it apart and repaste it. (the gpu looks flawless not even dusty but who knows what the paste looks like). i feel like a stronger GPU is working fine then the hx750 powering it should be OK. Of course maybe the motherboard killed the last gpu and just hasnt killed this one yet (z77 assrock extreme 6 due for a upgrade when 4000 series hits) i will have to check what drivers are installed, i doubt they are anything new, unless he updated it recently himself.

Hi

I also have repaste the Gigabyte 1070Ti, with no luck, and have the same problem.
We can not repaste a VGA when its still on warranty here as it will void the warranty since they have sealed on the bolt in the back of the PCB.

By the way, when I void the warranty of the Gigabyte which is only 2 year old, the condition of the paste is just awful, it is already dry. I agree that repaste is important for VGA, no VGA would last so long without repasting it.

and I stay with 442.19 driver from February as it seem ok with it.

 

[Massive79]

I have bought a DP cable tester and have checked my cable comes with MSI monitor, and it all ok, no 20 pin power. Here is link of the checking :

While I'm having distrust of the MSI cable, I bought this DP cable --> Ugreen Display Port cable v1.4 , which verified by the manufacturer to have no 20 pin power, and also I think have a good value as well. Good and sturdy cable, but have quite big port, so for monitor which have tight space port cable quite a hazzle to install it.

By the way I bought an GTX 1080 card, and as I told before that I also replace my PSU, and now all things went fine. But Whinging fine still occasionally happened especially when displaying white screen.

So conclusion can be make, my motherboard ok, my DP cable ok, my RAM ok, it looks like it really is my PSU which is failing.

It kinda scary that you will not be able to see that your PSU is failing until one of your component is damaged, I guess from now on I will change my PSU regularly.

And I would suggest that you guys also check power consumption of the PC, if it get around 450w during full load, I would suggest at least 2x PSU power which is min 900w, just to be safe.
You can use Watt monitor like this one here --> Watt Monitor

Thank you for all your sharing, I really appreciated all your input