1060 ram question

[stormkroe]

After seeing disappointment over the 1060 having 'only' 6gb, I was wondering if nV could pull a quick memory-doubling move (like with the 960 2gb to 4gb) and make a 12gb version? Would that necessitate a halving of bandwidth? And if so, could that be compensated with faster mem clock or even a gddr5x version (not sure if interconnects are similar or if a new controller would be required)?
12gb would be quite a lot for that card, but I bet people would buy it.

 

[Keysplayr]

After seeing disappointment over the 1060 having 'only' 6gb, I was wondering if nV could pull a quick memory-doubling move (like with the 960 2gb to 4gb) and make a 12gb version? Would that necessitate a halving of bandwidth? And if so, could that be compensated with faster mem clock or even a gddr5x version (not sure if interconnects are similar or if a new controller would be required)?
12gb would be quite a lot for that card, but I bet people would buy it.

I don't know who told you that 6GB was a disappointment, but I'd like to know the logic... Was it because another graphics card has 8GB and suddenly 7.9997GB or below is no good?

 

[stormkroe]

I don't know who told you that 6GB was a disappointment, but I'd like to know the logic... Was it because another graphics card has 8GB and suddenly 7.9997GB or below is no good?

I don't think it's too little, but people on this forum have been very vocal about it beimg less than 8gb. That's not really the scope of this thread though.

 

[IllogicalGlory]

For 1080p, 6GB is plenty, 4GB is plenty, 3.5GB is enough, 3GB may be enough, and while 12GB 1060 could exist in theory (with performance near-identical to the 6GB variants), I don't think we will ever see one. That's just way more than necessary.

 

[Kenmitch]

I don't think it's too little, but people on this forum have been very vocal about it beimg less than 8gb. That's not really the scope of this thread though.

Is 6gb too little or is 8gb too much? The forum could probably argue over it for days. In the end xtra ram is useless when the gpu runs out of grunt. Not like 4k @ 25fps is going to be a desirable experience for 1060 users anyways.

 

[stormkroe]

Is 6gb too little or is 8gb too much? The forum could probably argue over it for days. In the end xtra ram is useless when the gpu runs out of grunt. Not like 4k @ 25fps is going to be a desirable experience for 1060 users anyways.

Agreed on your last point. Again, it's just that many people have been happy to point out that 6gb is less than the 8gb competitor. What about if they re-enable SLI for this card? 1060 12gb SLI would be an awesome sleeper setup.

I seem to remember reading that in order to get the 960 to 4gb that they had to half the bandwidth, so clocks were increased to compensate. Anyone know if this is true?

 

[frozentundra123456]

I think most of the criticism was directed toward a possible 3 gb model.

 

[wilds]

3GB of VRAM is on the chopping block for 1080p gaming. 4GB is still enough. 6GB has plenty of time.

Hell, 6 GB is enough for most games at 4k. I usually see my 1070 use around 4.7-5.3GB of VRAM at 4k with 4k texture packs.

It is refrehing to see both AMD and Nvidia releasing GPU's with plenty of VRAM.

 

[Bacon1]

4GB is enough for 1080p at the performance level of these cards.

If you want dual cards, then you'd want more VRAM as that is the only part that doesn't "double" by adding multiple cards.

I wouldn't touch a 3GB version if they had one, as that is too little as seen by issues in games already, but 4GB hasn't had issues and won't before the performance on these cards tanks first anyway.

Most games show almost zero actual IQ difference between the "ULTRA EXTREME" settings and the ones right below them that provide much higher FPS. Those settings will work fine for 4GB cards for a long time.

 

[R0H1T]

Agreed on your last point. Again, it's just that many people have been happy to point out that 6gb is less than the 8gb competitor. What about if they re-enable SLI for this card? 1060 12gb SLI would be an awesome sleeper setup.

I seem to remember reading that in order to get the 960 to 4gb that they had to half the bandwidth, so clocks were increased to compensate. Anyone know if this is true?

They will not do that simply because the 1080 has fat margins & cannibalizing its sales with a cheaper alternative, even if from Nvidia, is not in their best interest. Now without SLI 1060 12GB would be silly, also we didn't see any 980 with 8GB VRAM for the same reason.

Not sure where you got that from but 960 with 4GB had the same bandwidth as the 2GB model, if that's not what you meant then please explain :\

Lastly 6GB is enough for 1080p but 1200p/1440p & above I'd recommend nothing less than 8GB, also CF 480 if one isn't looking for GTX 1080.

 

[IEC]

You don't really need more than 4GB except in some corner cases which can be worked around by literally lowering 1 setting.

So 6GB is plenty. 12GB would require double the density in the GDDR5 chips used = $$ (I don't think there are even 16Gbit parts at the required clockspeeds)

 

[littleg]

I haven't seen anyone say that 6GB isn't enough for this card. I think maybe you've got yourself confused with people talking about the mooted 3GB version.

 

[redzo]

6GB is more than enough.
It's rx480 4GB vs 1060 3GB that should be debated. Only 3GB at 1080p max settings for up coming 2017 titles is like taking a gamble if you ask me.

 

[Silverforce11]

6GB 1080p, enough for a few years. 3GB is silly though for GTX 980 performance class.

 

[3DVagabond]

6GB is fine for any settings this card can run.

 

[mohit9206]

They never will give 1060 12gb but lets say if in theory they did,it would cost $349.In that case might as well spend $50 more and get 1070.So it doesn't make sense.
1060 3gb however makes a lot of sense.For $199 it can compete with 4gb rx480 and 8gb rx470 and beat them both into the ground.Nvidia could completely remove AMD from the dedicated gpu market but they choose not to out of mercy.

 

[redzo]

They never will give 1060 12gb but lets say if in theory they did,it would cost $349.In that case might as well spend $50 more and get 1070.So it doesn't make sense.
1060 3gb however makes a lot of sense.For $199 it can compete with 4gb rx480 and 8gb rx470 and beat them both into the ground.Nvidia could completely remove AMD from the dedicated gpu market but they choose not to out of mercy.

12GB 1060 is a dumb configuration as the 1060 is too slow to begin with. It's like dropping an insane amount of ram in a dual core non ht system. You'll never benefit from that high RAM capacity as you'll encounter a GPU bottleneck.

1060 3gb however makes a lot of sense.For $199 it can compete with 4gb rx480 and 8gb rx470 and beat them both into the ground.Nvidia could completely remove AMD from the dedicated gpu market but they choose not to out of mercy.

Both gpu's(rx480 and 1060) seem fast enough, maybe too fast for less than 4GB. It makes one sad if the 1060 becomes bottlenecked because of a lousy additional 1GB vram.
You may be right. nVidia could outsell the rx480 4GB because of brand name, but, once again, a gpu like the 1060 deserves at least 4GB of vram.

 

[mohit9206]

12GB 1060 is a dumb configuration as the 1060 is too slow to begin with. It's like dropping an insane amount of ram in a dual core non ht system. You'll never benefit from that high RAM capacity as you'll encounter a GPU bottleneck.

Both gpu's(rx480 and 1060) seem fast enough, maybe too fast for less than 4GB. It makes one sad if the 1060 becomes bottlenecked because of a lousy additional 1GB vram.
You may be right. nVidia could outsell the rx480 4GB because of brand name, but, once again, a gpu like the 1060 deserves at least 4GB of vram.

Deserve ain't got nothing to do with it :biggrin:
780/780Ti deserved 6gb but got only 3gb at launch and it still sold bajillions..6gb models came much later.

 

[redzo]

Deserve ain't got nothing to do with it :biggrin:
780/780Ti deserved 6gb but got only 3gb at launch and it still sold bajillions..6gb models came much later.

I didn't challenge nvidia's brand desirability.
At the time of 780/ti launch, 3GB was waaay over what 4GB is now.
By "deserve" I mean: the 1060 it's a very capable gpu that it's going to be highly bottle necked by only 3GB of vram. It needs more vram for a warranted sustainability of 2 years, otherwise its customers get screwed and have to upgrade fast, earlier than an already often two year upgrade cycle.

 

[DaveSimmons]

12 GB would be worthless for 99% of buyers, they should either save their money or put that wasted money towards a 1070 instead.

Possibly the only ones it might help are modders who want to load 20 GB of extra textures into Skyrim.

1060 is a 1080p card and in 1080p I was doing fine with a 2 GB gtx 680.

 

[Headfoot]

I've literally seen absolutely nobody say 6gb isn't enough. Where are you getting this? The rumored 3GB model is the one thats too little...

 

[eddman]

They won't do a 12 GB version when 1070 and 1080 are 8 GB.

Besides, as others have mentioned, even 4 GB is more than enough today for 1920 x 1080. 6 GB should be plenty for at least the next 2 years.