100k Android phones activated daily!

[DukeN]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18444

In case you missed it on the home page.

Father Steve must be shitting iBricks. The poor iphonies are probably working harder at their Steve Jobs fellatio blow-up dolls hoping to prevent an all out rampage.

While the topic is worth discussing, presenting it in this manner is unnecessary & infractionworthy -Admin DrPizza

 

[dwell]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18444

In case you missed it on the home page.

Father Steve must be shitting iBricks. The poor iphonies are probably working harder at their Steve Jobs fellatio blow-up dolls hoping to prevent an all out rampage.

Troll post reported.

 

[TheWart]

Despite the troll OP, I think this is an interesting/noteworthy development, and almost posted it last night.

As many have pointed out, Android's reach across carriers and manu's inevitable means it is going to gobble up a huge chunk of the market, and this looks like it is coming to pass.

That being said, as people have pointed out many times, Apple is doing incredibly well making money off the iphone, and is showing very strong growth. I don't see that changing (esp with the new phone around the corner), so for now it is a win-win for Android and Apple. I think the folks who are really nervous are the RIM and WinMo peeps.

 

[Slick5150]

I agree that
A) OP could have done without the trolling

B) This is less of a threat to Apple as it is to RIM and WinMo. I still think Android has some maturing to do to be a legit threat to RIM as a business phone though.

 

[Narmer]

I agree that
A) OP could have done without the trolling

B) This is less of a threat to Apple as it is to RIM and WinMo. I still think Android has some maturing to do to be a legit threat to RIM as a business phone though.

Yeah, it seems like MS was focusing too much on Apple when it should have been focusing on Android, which is eating their breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

 

[preslove]

I think this is more a threat to apple than RIM. RIM has it's position because of business users. As long as the corporate sector prefers to use the BB system, they should be fine. Android and the iPhone are both targeted at consumer, not corporate customers, so they are competitors. We'll see how Win7 does.

Also, agree on the OP troll post.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Apple needs to release an iPhone with Android...

That would just confuse the he'll out of everyone

 

[CurseTheSky]

Apple needs to release an iPhone with Android...

That would just confuse the he'll out of everyone

Does not compute

 

[AstroManLuca]

Apple needs to release an iPhone with Android...

That would just confuse the he'll out of everyone

I think I'll buy a MacBook and then wipe OS X and install Windows only.

And then hack the iPhone OS onto a Nexus One.

D:

 

[sswingle]

Does not compute

There is a video of an iPhone running Android. Was pretty cool.

 

[gsaldivar]

Android has some maturing to do to be a legit threat to RIM as a business phone though.

I used to think this, but Android is rapidly improving in this area... take a look at some of the enterprise-specific improvements in 2.2:

Exchange support

Improved security with the addition of numeric pin or alpha-numeric password options to unlock device. Exchange administrators can enforce password policy across devices.

Remote wipe: Exchange administrators can remotely reset the device to factory defaults to secure data in case device is lost or stolen.

Exchange Calendars are now supported in the Calendar application.

Auto-discovery: you just need to know your user-name and password to easily set up and sync an Exchange account (available for Exchange 2007 and higher).

Global Address Lists look-up is now available in the Email application, enabling users to auto-complete recipient names from the directory.

Mind you this is for the native e-mail client in 2.2. HTC has its own forked client which already offers some of the above functionality today.

In addition to the Android and HTC clients, there are numerous other clients to choose from which also today provide rich enterprise e-mail functionality (Touchdown, K-9... etc).

I think it's fair to say that as of 2.2 Android qualifies as a "mature" platform and at this point is now a credible threat to both Apple and RIM.

 

[gsaldivar]

I agree that
A) OP could have done without the trolling

Agreed. The article is good though. :thumbsup:

 

[joutlaw]

I used to think this, but Android is rapidly improving in this area... take a look at some of the enterprise-specific improvements in 2.2:

Mind you this is for the native e-mail client in 2.2. HTC has its own forked client which already offers some of the above functionality today.

In addition to the Android and HTC clients, there are numerous other clients to choose from which also today provide rich enterprise e-mail functionality (Touchdown, K-9... etc).

I think it's fair to say that as of 2.2 Android qualifies as a "mature" platform and at this point is now a credible threat to both Apple and RIM.

Amen. 2.2 is what our company has been waiting on. We haven't adopted the use of Android on our network because we can't wipe the phone remotely in case it's lost. As of right now only the iPhone and Windows Mobile phones are allowed access.

 

[Slick5150]

Oh I agree 2.2 sounds like a big improvement that RIM should be afraid of. Hence why I said above that the OP post was more a threat to RIM and WinMo, because if they keep growing like this and can prove to be a legit business phone at the same time, then they're really onto something.

 

[gsaldivar]

Amen. 2.2 is what our company has been waiting on. We haven't adopted the use of Android on our network because we can't wipe the phone remotely in case it's lost. As of right now only the iPhone and Windows Mobile phones are allowed access.

Remote wipe is actually supported on Android 2.1 today, but requires that you use Exchange 2007. I'm not sure if that's applicable to devices using stock Android or HTC (Sense UI), so you will want to confirm, but I'm pretty sure its implemented on at least one of them.

 

[gsaldivar]

Correction: Remote wipe is supported on Android devices using the Touchdown client, and works with both Exchange 2003 and 2007. So you can use Touchdown with 2.1 and earlier devices, or for wait 2.2 to get this functionality native with Google's email client.

http://groups.google.com/group/nitrodesk/web/remote-wiping?pli=1

http://www.nitrodesk.com/dk_touchdownFeatures.aspx

Here is the related ticket at Google just FYI. I'm hoping that we'll get 'require encryption' and 'require encryption on storage card' soon!

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4475

2.2 sneak peek!:

 

[zerocool84]

Despite the troll OP, I think this is an interesting/noteworthy development, and almost posted it last night.

As many have pointed out, Android's reach across carriers and manu's inevitable means it is going to gobble up a huge chunk of the market, and this looks like it is coming to pass.

That being said, as people have pointed out many times, Apple is doing incredibly well making money off the iphone, and is showing very strong growth. I don't see that changing (esp with the new phone around the corner), so for now it is a win-win for Android and Apple. I think the folks who are really nervous are the RIM and WinMo peeps.

There's nothing better for us consumers than great competition. Android is as good for Apple as Apple is for Android. Ever since the iPhone came out, it caused a huge rush and pushed smartphone technology to grow faster than it was before and Google coming into the picture is pushing it farther again as well and it's making it great for us. People complain that there's the next best phone every few months but that's a good thing. There really hasn't been a better time for phones than now and it's only going to get better.

 

[gsaldivar]

There's nothing better for us consumers than great competition. Android is as good for Apple as Apple is for Android. Ever since the iPhone came out, it caused a huge rush and pushed smartphone technology to grow faster than it was before and Google coming into the picture is pushing it farther again as well and it's making it great for us. People complain that there's the next best phone every few months but that's a good thing. There really hasn't been a better time for phones than now and it's only going to get better.

Well said. :thumbsup:

 

[akugami]

I think this is more a threat to apple than RIM. RIM has it's position because of business users. As long as the corporate sector prefers to use the BB system, they should be fine. Android and the iPhone are both targeted at consumer, not corporate customers, so they are competitors. We'll see how Win7 does.

Disagree.

Apple's iPhone, as others have noted, is still doing incredibly well despite Android gaining steam.

There is also room for more than one player in the cell phone market. While the smart phone sector is currently small it will continue to grow and eventually smart phones will be the norm rather than a niche. It is entirely possible, and extremely likely, the iPhone OS and Android will co-exist.

For the business sector, while Android and iPhone OS are not currently where it needs to be as far as back end and app support it is getting there. While RIM is still in the lead it is fast approaching the day when the iPhone and Android become viable alternatives. The iPhone has slowly inched closer and closer to building the infrastructure necessary to become a device friendly to big business rather than individual users. It would be ludicrous to assume Android doesn't incorporate business friendly features as it becomes a more mature product.

It is RIM, Nokia and that has to worry the most about market share. RIM because they are losing market share and it seems to be because of users defecting to either an Android phone or iPhone. Their OS interface is dated and needs a substantial update to match Android and iPhone. While RIM's strength is in their infrastructure that will not carry them much further as Android and iPhone slowly catch up. I think RIM needs something major within two years or they will watch both Android and iPhone really start to wipe out their market share.

Nokia may be a major cell phone player but their recent phones have largely flopped. More and more users will be moving to the iPhone or Android due to the interface and large screens. Nokia's Symbian OS is dated and looking at their newer phones in production or about to be released shows a lackluster product line. Apple's higher price point and decided lack of variety in the iPhones will limit its market. This means that Apple will mostly be fighting against Nokia's higher priced flagship phones. However, Android seems poised to really do a number on Nokia. There's nothing to keep a company from releasing lower end Android based phones in the $100-300 market while still having premium priced phones to compete with Nokia's higher priced phones.

Microsoft is a bit of a question mark because of the flopping of Windows Mobile OS as well as MS basically starting from scratch with Windows Mobile 7. Their share is effectively zeroed. The strength of MS is of course their Office productivity suite and Exchange Server. So MS is down but not out.

 

[velillen]

I think one thing to consider is how the iphone is only offered on one carrier. Android covers them all basically. I know for myself i would consider an iphone but i have verizon so right now all i am left with is pretty much an android phone. Just another thing that should be considered. The iphone does pretty well for being on only one network

 

[charrison]

I think one thing to consider is how the iphone is only offered on one carrier. Android covers them all basically. I know for myself i would consider an iphone but i have verizon so right now all i am left with is pretty much an android phone. Just another thing that should be considered. The iphone does pretty well for being on only one network

Yes, but this is going to kill apple if they continue this practice.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Apple needs to release an iPhone with Android...

That would just confuse the he'll out of everyone

I saw a youtube video in which someone hacked Android to boot on an iPhone. Twas interesting.

 

[QueBert]

Yes, but this is going to kill apple if they continue this practice.

Apple's selling about 75k iPhones a day. They have by far the best selling single handset in the USA. Oh and they had the biggest quarter $$$ wise this last one. I suspect the 75k a day average will stay around as long as they keep making them. They have nothing to worry about, nothing at all. People who want iPhones will buy them, people who don't will buy Androids. And I suspect a some of that 100k number of Androids were free, I know when I was at the mall the guy at the Verizon Kiosk offered me 2 free Moto Droids if I signed a 2 year 2 line contract.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Yes, but this is going to kill apple if they continue this practice.

Agreed, but only if you care deeply about US sales. And the US market is constrained because of the whole CDMA/GSM thing. The only carrier that could easily pick up the iPhone without a major revision is TMobile, hardly a company that can generate the numbers that Verizon could.

The majority of iPhones are sold outside of the US at the current time.

I REALLY don't want this thread to turn into a pissing contest, but the reality is that the smartphone market is massive, and getting bigger, there's room for all the players, and they're all going to do well. RIM isn't going anywhere, and I suspect they have a trick or two they'll play to keep them competitive, and who knows, Nokia may get it's shit together and take a bite out of the US market.

 

[charrison]

Agreed, but only if you care deeply about US sales. And the US market is constrained because of the whole CDMA/GSM thing. The only carrier that could easily pick up the iPhone without a major revision is TMobile, hardly a company that can generate the numbers that Verizon could.

The majority of iPhones are sold outside of the US at the current time.

I REALLY don't want this thread to turn into a pissing contest, but the reality is that the smartphone market is massive, and getting bigger, there's room for all the players, and they're all going to do well. RIM isn't going anywhere, and I suspect they have a trick or two they'll play to keep them competitive, and who knows, Nokia may get it's shit together and take a bite out of the US market.

I dont disagree there is room for more than one major player and I would prefer that there were multiple major players. But if apple is not careful they could find themselves being a minor player on the sidelines.

And apple has had more than enough to get a cdma phone out. By leaving cdma out they have left 175million customers on the sidelines in the US.