100C temps on i7-920 C0/C1 (with 212+) HELP!

dunce

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Guys,

I recently decided to get a new CPU cooler and take my 920 upto 3.6Ghz. I picked up the 212+, second fan (push/pull)and Artic silver 5. Long story short I am hitting over 100c during the RealTemp (prime95) test. This can't be right? Even at stock 2.6Ghz I sit at 41-42c with an ambient temp of 70F.

Any thoughts?

Asus P6B (plain)
Hyper 212+ with second CM fan for push/Pull
12Gb Corsair
120Gb Corsair Force
GTX 470
CM Sniper case with 3 200mm fans running at full speed.

*EDIT*
I followed this guide http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/11/06/overclocking-intel-core-i7-920/3
Core CPU and QPI is at v1.35
 
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d4a2n0k

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I would reapply the AS5 and try to reseat the cooler, something is not right there. The i7 920's will happily run at high 70's to low 80's all day long but 100c is way too high.
 
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That is not out of normal.. sometimes my i7 920 at stock hits those temps but does alot of fluctuating... mainly depending on how i set my fans speed through bios...
 

err

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most likely bad heatsink compound placement (too much), or bad CPU fan placement.

you have to make sure the heatsink touches the CPU in a perfect manner.
 

Morg.

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You should consider plugging in the fan, just putting the rad in place does not cool your CPU that much ;)
 

dunce

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Oh right, you need to plug in those fans. :)

I will try and reseat the 212+ later today. I am also thinking of an upgrade. Do you guys think a 2500k i7 (and new MB) would be worth it? Or should I just stick with my 920 at 3.6Ghz.
 

nyker96

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I think 212+ is not the greatest for cooling such a hot chip but 100C at prime95 might be little unexpected. I'd say high 80s or low 90s. still it's a hot chip. if you want something that can do better there are lots out there, best air probably DH14. or if you want cheap and good, try the Mugen 2.
 

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Oh right, you need to plug in those fans. :)

I will try and reseat the 212+ later today. I am also thinking of an upgrade. Do you guys think a 2500k i7 (and new MB) would be worth it? Or should I just stick with my 920 at 3.6Ghz.

My enthusiast hat seems to have fallen off a while ago, but I'd think that sticking w\ the 920 would be fine. I don't know that the upgrade is big enough to justify an entire system reboot ( mobo / cpu ).

Also.... MANNNNN. I have seen alot of similar heat related threads and come to realize that maybe my standards for cooling are set too high. When my cpu temp reaches the 50's I start to worry!

When I first got my athlon X2 6400+ , didn't seat it properly and it was at 85c and I was alerted to this because I could feel extremely hot air on my hands @ my keyboard tray.
 

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Guys,

I recently decided to get a new CPU cooler and take my 920 upto 3.6Ghz. I picked up the 212+, second fan (push/pull)and Artic silver 5. Long story short I am hitting over 100c during the RealTemp (prime95) test. This can't be right? Even at stock 2.6Ghz I sit at 41-42c with an ambient temp of 70F.

Any thoughts?

Asus P6B (plain)
Hyper 212+ with second CM fan for push/Pull
12Gb Corsair
120Gb Corsair Force
GTX 470
CM Sniper case with 3 200mm fans running at full speed.

*EDIT*
I followed this guide http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/11/06/overclocking-intel-core-i7-920/3
Core CPU and QPI is at v1.35

You should get 40's idle and 50 to 60's load. If you cant get that then dont OC card as life span will be shortened.
 

Makaveli

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Weak cooler and possible improper install?

Since its also c0/c1 revision how much voltage are you using to hit 3.6?
 

dunce

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So I reset the 212+ following a guide listed on another thread and I still have the high temps. I am going to try changing out the fans or look for a new cooler. DH14 or H70?

Also I put on the stock CPU cooler and my temps were only 5-10 warmer. This was with an ambiant temp of 65F in my office.
 
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Morg.

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Well, if your heat problem is not solved by a modern air cooler (I don't know the 212, but from what I've heard its in the lower high-end), it's not going to be solved by another air cooler.

What I mean is when I bought a FZ120 from zerotherm because it cost next to nothing, I bought 90% of the performance of the best coolers available, this here is probably the same case, and even if you paid for the most expensive air setup, you're coming from 100°C on a modern cooler, you might never get to safe temps (70°C sounds very safe to me for example).

I saw you were considering an upgrade and even buying new coolers ... if you're going intel high-end and you want to overclock, you might want to consider watercooling.

Even though changing CPU now is probably not really worth it, getting a WC loop in is going to be a worthy upgrade on the long term.

And it'll solve your temp problems forever, just need a change of WB now and then (a WB is cheaper than a new air cooler quite often, especially if you're looking at high-end stuff) and it'll all be silent-ish.
 

Makaveli

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I don't think he needs to go water which will just add more expense and complicate his setup. You would be surprised how much his temps would drop if he were to pickup a TRUE or Venemous cooler.

212 I don't consider low highend,and a FZ120 isn't highend either.
 
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Morg.

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I'm talking about when I bought the FZ120, like when it was out for a month ;)

And yes I would be surprised if another air cooler was to make 40°C difference on there.
 

Makaveli

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I wouldn't expect a 40c drop, but his temps are way off the mark from he should be getting.
 

dunce

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Guys I agree, a new CPU cooler should not change anything. I am going to try a H70 and see if anything changes. My guess is it wont. After that, I might just sell the MB and CPU and get a new 2500k or 2600k and MB.

Thanks for all your help!
 

dunce

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Great news! First of I tried chaging the 212+ to blowing the air up instead of out the back for the case. Didn't change anything.

I picked up a H50 for $59 bucks and installed in tonight. Now I am OC'ed to 4.0 and RealTemp/Prim95 never goes over 88C. This is with an ambient temp of 78F.

So now the question is, should I keep the H50 and add a second fan. OR get the H70? Is the H70 that much better? Thoughts?

Obviously something was wrong with my 212+ or mounting bracket.
 

artvscommerce

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88C under load with a H50 still seems quite high. I've got a 980X @ 1.3V and it barely gets into the 60's under full load. I've had the voltage higher than 1.35 in the past and the temps were only slightly higher. What sort of temperatures do you get under load at stock settings?
 

Soccerman06

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Great news! First of I tried chaging the 212+ to blowing the air up instead of out the back for the case. Didn't change anything.

I picked up a H50 for $59 bucks and installed in tonight. Now I am OC'ed to 4.0 and RealTemp/Prim95 never goes over 88C. This is with an ambient temp of 78F.

So now the question is, should I keep the H50 and add a second fan. OR get the H70? Is the H70 that much better? Thoughts?

Obviously something was wrong with my 212+ or mounting bracket.

Don't bother with a h70 as they are barely an improvement over the h50. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but the as5 paste you have does take awhile to cure properly, something like 200 hr of use before its complete.
 

ElFenix

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are you certain you're looking at the right temps? have the latest version of hwmonitor?



Don't bother with a h70 as they are barely an improvement over the h50. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but the as5 paste you have does take awhile to cure properly, something like 200 hr of use before its complete.
while as5 does take time to cure (in particular heating/cooling cycles, so turn your pc off when not in use), it's not going to drop 40 degrees.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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My i7 920 @4GHz idles in the low 50s w/ the H50 cooler, peaks in the high 70s when gaming.

I've seen a lot of Dell and Asus PCs with the i7 920s idling at over 60C out of the box. The CPU is capable of taking a pretty amazing amount of heat apparently.
 

Makaveli

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My i7 920 @4GHz idles in the low 50s w/ the H50 cooler, peaks in the high 70s when gaming.

I've seen a lot of Dell and Asus PCs with the i7 920s idling at over 60C out of the box. The CPU is capable of taking a pretty amazing amount of heat apparently.

yes tmax is 99c but you still don't want it operating close to that for long periods of time.

I currently idle in the high 30's with my TRUE gaming load in the 50c range and Max temp high 60's.

With HT on.

And those dell tower and asus pcs tend to lack in the cooling department hence the high idle temps.
 

Ferzerp

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88C under load with a H50 still seems quite high. I've got a 980X @ 1.3V and it barely gets into the 60's under full load. I've had the voltage higher than 1.35 in the past and the temps were only slightly higher. What sort of temperatures do you get under load at stock settings?

You cannot compare different generations of processors' operating temps. There is no point.



The original poster's temps still are high though, but his voltage is a bit high too. I have a similar set up with an i7 930, same cooler, but I am using 1.24V vs his 1.35V and my idle temps are in the 40's and my max temp is in the low 70's. However, again, the extra voltage will really raise the temp.