$1000 mitx gaming build

[dragantoe]

CPU: Xeon e3 1230 v2
Mobo: ASUS P8H61-I R2.0
RAM: Kingston HyperX Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N670WF2-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB
PSU: Antec BP550 Plus 550W
Case: Coolermaster elite 120 advanced
Storage: Western Digital WD AV-GP WD5000AVDS 500GB 32MB Cache
CPU Cooler: Stock
dvd drive: it doesnt matter to me

The things I'm worried about are; the hd, is it decent? also the gpu, it's small but is it better than reference cooling wise? and can I overclock well?

If you are wondering about the cpu, I'm getting it because it's the same as a 3770(non k) only a lot cheaper, and no igp, performs about 30% better than a stock 3570k, and costs about the same

also, I would go amd for the gpu, but I'm getting the nvidia shield and want to stream games to it which requires an nvidia card (damn nvidia)
the total comes to around $940 with shipping

 

[Sleepingforest]

If you look at game performance in frames per second instead of synthetic benchmarks, you'll see that the 3770K performs 1-2% better than the 3570K (according to Anandtech's Bench). So you should really just get a 3470 or 3570 instead. Furthermore, that motherboard is not compatible with Ivy Bridge (iX-3XXX and Xeon V2 CPUs).

Your build seems to have considerable waste if you can only fit in a 500GB HDD and no SDD for $1000. Look at mfenn's $1000 build, but get a Gigabyte H77N-WIFI and an mITX case instead.

 

[dragantoe]

If you look at game performance in frames per second instead of synthetic benchmarks, you'll see that the 3770K performs 1-2% better than the 3570K (according to Anandtech's Bench). So you should really just get a 3470 or 3570 instead. Furthermore, that motherboard is not compatible with Ivy Bridge (iX-3XXX and Xeon V2 CPUs).

Your build seems to have considerable waste if you can only fit in a 500GB HDD and no SDD for $1000. Look at mfenn's $1000 build, but get a Gigabyte H77N-WIFI and an mITX case instead.

I really don't care about an ssd, in game it makes no difference, I'll wait until it's less than 30 cents per gb. Also I did a thread on which motherboard to get earlier and I was told it was compatible, so i checked the site and it is.
also, I don't feel bad spending the extra 10-20 dollars over a 3570k, since I'm still getting a better cpu which will be good for autocad and rhino, which I use on a daily basis.

 

[Deltaechoe]

From what I remember, xeon's are meant to be workstation CPUs which usually means that while they are absolutely GREAT at being accurate and doing "workstationy" things, as far as gaming goes they generally are not the best choice, although that might have changed over the past few generations. Anyway, it should be fine especially for your rendering applications

Also, as far as the GPU goes, I can't tell from the pictures if the fans stick out a bit. If they do, then you might have trouble fitting it in the case, if not, then you should be good to go. I personally like blower style coolers in small builds since they tend to encourage more linear airflow throughout those little cases

 

[dragantoe]

From what I remember, xeon's are meant to be workstation CPUs which usually means that while they are absolutely GREAT at being accurate and doing "workstationy" things, as far as gaming goes they generally are not the best choice.

I would honestly go with the I5 3570 since there is little to no difference in gaming between that and the 3770k from what I've seen in most of the builds I've seen

yes, but I'm only going with the xeon because it's only $20 more than the 3570k, which I can afford, and it is better for games, even though it's only 2% on average.

 

[Deltaechoe]

I edited my above post to give some more accurate responses

 

[dragantoe]

since people seem to not be in favor of this xeon thing, I'll raise my cap to $1100 and make a generic prodigy build. here it is;

CPU: 3570k
Mobo: ASRock Z77E-ITX
RAM: Corsair vengeance blue one 8GB (2 x 4GB)
GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N670WF2-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB
PSU: Antec BP550 Plus 550W
Case: bitfenix prodigy midnight black edition
Storage: Western Digital WD AV-GP WD5000AVDS 500GB 32MB Cache
CPU Cooler: thermaltake frio ock
dvd drive: I'll borrow one to install os

so? any contradictions? no ssd

 

[Sleepingforest]

No contradictions unless that PSU is more than 160mm.

You didn't need to do a "generic prodigy build" you know. I gave suggestions for a non-overclocking build in your preferred case. (i5-3470, Gigabyte H77N-WIFI).

 

[dragantoe]

No contradictions unless that PSU is more than 160mm.

You didn't need to do a "generic prodigy build" you know. I gave suggestions for a non-overclocking build in your preferred case. (i5-3470, Gigabyte H77N-WIFI).

yeah but I was trying to get more performance than what I have, with that cpu, it's basically worse, i may just end up not doing this build if my current doesn't sell quickly, then I will just crossfire 7870's, get a haf xb and call it a day

 

[Zap]

Also I did a thread

Wouldn't it have been easier to just keep it all to one build thread instead of making a thread for each component?

From what I remember, xeon's are meant to be workstation CPUs which usually means that while they are absolutely GREAT at being accurate and doing "workstationy" things, as far as gaming goes they generally are not the best choice, although that might have changed over the past few generations.

There are Xeons for various platforms. For instance I have (well, lent to a friend who never returned it) a Xeon E3110 which was made for socket 775 and for all intents and purposes a Core 2 Duo E8400.

 

[Deltaechoe]

Yeah I refreshed my memory on them, turns out they're just higher binned chips and tend to be more expensive

 

[Torn Mind]

If you play Crysis 3 or BF3, get the Xeon.

 

[dragantoe]

so I just learned I can overclock this xeon to around 4.1 ghz on a z77 board, back to xeon it is lol

 

[Sleepingforest]

Overclocking it that high is going to really mess things up on your computer. The BCLCK (the only thing that you can alter in terms of clockspeed) also is related to USB ports and so on. It's best not to overclock unless the multiplier is changeable.

 

[Torn Mind]

Overclocking it that high is going to really mess things up on your computer. The BCLCK (the only thing that you can alter in terms of clockspeed) also is related to USB ports and so on. It's best not to overclock unless the multiplier is changeable.

He at least should be able to bump the BCLK up to 101 Mhz and get 3770 performance. :biggrin:

 

[dragantoe]

He at least should be able to bump the BCLK up to 101 Mhz and get 3770 performance. :biggrin:

this is basically what I want

 

[Sleepingforest]

Er. 4.1GHz is really, really different than 3.5 GHz. 3.5 GHz is a doable 1% increase (100 to 101MHz). 4.1 is much riskier at 102 MHz.

 

[mfenn]

I really don't care about an ssd, in game it makes no difference

This is not true. It makes a big difference in large open-world games because you spend a lot less time loading than you would otherwise.

Also, an SSD is a no-brainer in a mini-ITX build IMHO. It's smaller, non susceptible to heat issues, and is more resilient to being moved around. The Samsung 840 250GB is current $170 at Newegg.

Finally, if you still insist on getting an HDD, do not get the AV-GP for your system drive. It's a 5400RPM drive meant for streaming duties and will completely choke on the random access pattern that is typical on a system drive. Get a 7200RPM general purpose drive like this WD Blue instead.

 

[dragantoe]

WD Blue [/URL]instead.

oh i didn't notice it was 5400rpm lol thanks

 

[lavaheadache]

i5 3570k overclocked to 4.0 on stock voltage cooled by a h50
2x4 gig corsair vengeance 1600mhz
Vertex 3 90 gb
asrock z77e itx
OCZ 600 watt
LG Blu Ray
Cooler master elite 120

Just waiting for the perfect video card. This is an HTPC build

 

[lehtv]

so I just learned I can overclock this xeon to around 4.1 ghz on a z77 board, back to xeon it is lol

You can't adjust the Xeon's multipliers. Need an i5 or i7 for that.

 

[dragantoe]

i5 3570k overclocked to 4.0 on stock voltage cooled by a h50
2x4 gig corsair vengeance 1600mhz
Vertex 3 90 gb
asrock z77e itx
OCZ 600 watt
LG Blu Ray
Cooler master elite 120

oh wow! you even managed a radiator, maybe I should look at those

 

[lavaheadache]

The h50 and 60 will drop right n the drive bay and even screw it in. You just have to figure out what to do with the hard drive. As you can see I decided to zip tie it to the hose.

 

[dragantoe]

The h50 and 60 will drop right n the drive bay and even screw it in. You just have to figure out what to do with the hard drive. As you can see I decided to zip tie it to the hose.

I don't have to install a dvd drive, and I would get a modular psu, so there should be enough room