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joohang

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OK. Somebody please explain this to me.

1000 missiles to get rid of military facilities in Baghdad? WTF?

OK, I maintained a neutral stance toward this war, but 1000 friggin' missiles? Liberate what? Rubbles?

MSNBC: "One thousand Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at Baghdad from the air and from warships in the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf."

La nacion: "...at least 320 missiles..."

YTN: "1000 missiles exploded simultaneously in Baghdad..."

BBC: "More than 1,000 cruise missiles were fired at the Iraqi capital overnight, US officials said."
 
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PsychoAndy

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Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: Crimzon
Isn't each Tomahawk missle supposed to cost 1.4 million?
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Yep, over 1 billion dollars in one day....
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I was thinking this as well. They never disclose this on CNN...maybe the US got a bulk discount from General Dynamics ;)
 
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jaeger66

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Originally posted by: PsychoAndy


I was thinking this as well. They never disclose this on CNN...maybe the US got a bulk discount from General Dynamics ;)
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I saw it several times on CNN.
 
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joohang

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It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
 
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PsychoAndy

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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: PsychoAndy


I was thinking this as well. They never disclose this on CNN...maybe the US got a bulk discount from General Dynamics ;)
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I saw it several times on CNN.
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The # of missiles or the cost? All I saw was numbers, but then again, that was 8 hours ago.
 
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stspad

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1000? holy fvck, someones triggerhappy. The tv prolly showed what, 20-30 bombs tops?
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Crimzon

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Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
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We don't know the damage they do to perticular buildings. One building might well need 5 to go down. To penetrate the ground for example, for any bunkers that may be underneath. There is a big difference between 1k and 320. We're not sure what the number really is. Once we find out the specifics, if we ever do, then we can start a discussion on if it was overkill or not. As it is, they scaled back the attack due to the effectiveness of the first wave.
 
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etalns

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Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
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Quit being a jackass, people will reply as they please. The U.S. Army deemed it neccesary to use these many missiles in order to handicap the military facilities in Baghdad, I'm sure you're a damn expert on the capability of the Iraqi military and the proportions of their military quarters?

A member of the ATers against clueless idiots acting like Generals in war.
 
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Barnaby W. Füi

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Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
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"Money is thicker than blood, that's fvcked up but thats how it is" (rough memory of some snoop dogg lyrics)

Thousands of people die every single day, welcome to the universe. It's a harsh place. You know how many bacteria you've probably killed today?
 
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joohang

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Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
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Quit being a jackass, people will reply as they please. The U.S. Army deemed it neccesary to use these many missiles in order to handicap the military facilities in Baghdad, I'm sure you're a damn expert on the capability of the Iraqi military and the proportions of their military quarters?

A member of the ATers against clueless idiots acting like Generals in war.
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LOL

I asked a legitimate question concerned about explosions of 1000 freaking missiles in a single city.

And people started to talk about the cost of these missiles and not a single one showed any concern about the civilians.

And now I'm called a jackass and an idiot. Umm.. thank you?

Now, where in this thread did I act like an expert?
 
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joohang

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Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
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"Money is thicker than blood, that's fvcked up but thats how it is" (rough memory of some snoop dogg lyrics)

Thousands of people die every single day, welcome to the universe. It's a harsh place. You know how many bacteria you've probably killed today?
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Bacteria are not the same as people. That's how my morals work.

People from a neighbouring country just consciously shot 1000 missiles to a city that houses humans. You call this an act of nature? Or are you trying to argue Social Darwinism to me?
 
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etalns

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Originally posted by: joohang
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
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Quit being a jackass, people will reply as they please. The U.S. Army deemed it neccesary to use these many missiles in order to handicap the military facilities in Baghdad, I'm sure you're a damn expert on the capability of the Iraqi military and the proportions of their military quarters?

A member of the ATers against clueless idiots acting like Generals in war.
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LOL

I asked a legitimate question concerned about explosions of 1000 freaking missiles in a single city.

And people started to talk about the cost of these missiles and not a single one showed any concern about the civilians.

And now I'm called a jackass and an idiot. Umm.. thank you?

Now, where in this thread did I act like an expert?
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Earlier you stated

1000 missiles to get rid of military facilities in Baghdad? WTF?
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I'm sure you're really educated on how many military facilities there are in Baghdad. Also, these missiles were not only aimed to damage the "nerve" of the Iraqi military, but to also penetrate underground bunkers where important Iraqi officials were thought to be. You have no clue what the hell you're talking about when you say that 1000 missiles is overkill to incapacitate the military potential of the Iraqi army, neither do I. You don't know the potential they have, nor how largely the control is spread out. The United States government has far more intelligence in this situation than you do, they spent a long time weighing between the incapacitation effect and the danger to civilian lives that would occur based on their attacks.

Also, you asked a question and people weighed in their opinions. If you don't want to hear other peoples opinions, whatever aspect they may be about, then don't bother posting. A figure of over a billion dollars being expended in the use of missiles was something that alot of people found to be rather amazing, they commented on it. What right do you have to criticize them on that view?

You portray all these civilians that were injured as if they are all the living equivelant of Mother Teresa, it has been stated time and time again by news agencies that several of those injured were members of the military. Now you will state that these are people none the less, but you play with fire...and you'll get burned. They have stayed faithful to their leader rather than attempting to defect, and they will face the consequences of those actions.
 
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VFAA

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Well lol according to the Iraqi Spokesman (the moron), the Iraqi defences launched Iraqi versions of Patriot missiles at the Tomahawks and destroyed all but 19 lol...

Yeah so Iraq launched at least 981 missiles (isn't that an illigal ammount for for having so many anyway lol)... Man this Iraqi dude is a moron... Why lie...
 
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stspad

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1000 cruise missiles and their just getting started
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C'DaleRider

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Originally posted by: joohang
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
Click to expand...

Quit being a jackass, people will reply as they please. The U.S. Army deemed it neccesary to use these many missiles in order to handicap the military facilities in Baghdad, I'm sure you're a damn expert on the capability of the Iraqi military and the proportions of their military quarters?

A member of the ATers against clueless idiots acting like Generals in war.
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LOL

I asked a legitimate question concerned about explosions of 1000 freaking missiles in a single city.

And people started to talk about the cost of these missiles and not a single one showed any concern about the civilians.

And now I'm called a jackass and an idiot. Umm.. thank you?

Now, where in this thread did I act like an expert?
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From what I've heard and seen, the photos/TV we've watched and seen were taken from across the river from the complex being bombed. The civilian population in the area being bombed was not as dense as it may have seemed. Hussein's palace complex and other command-and-control buildings were fairly separate from the houses, hotels, and other civilians. A reporter stated last night his hotel was within 1/2 mile from the bombing but across the river, and actually began to feel fairly safe after the bombing started because the bombs confined themselves to one smallish area.

True, there were probably civilian deaths as in any war. But with the bombs being used today, with precise GPS positioning and current technology, it'll be a rare bomb that strays off target. Much more surgical these days.....finally.
 
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ShotgunSteven

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Originally posted by: joohang
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: joohang
It feels so good to see more posts on the cost of missiles than the actual explosions caused by them.

Yup. Thank you all for sharing your insights on 1 billion dollars used up in one day.
Click to expand...

"Money is thicker than blood, that's fvcked up but thats how it is" (rough memory of some snoop dogg lyrics)

Thousands of people die every single day, welcome to the universe. It's a harsh place. You know how many bacteria you've probably killed today?
Click to expand...

Bacteria are not the same as people. That's how my morals work.

People from a neighbouring country just consciously shot 1000 missiles to a city that houses humans. You call this an act of nature? Or are you trying to argue Social Darwinism to me?
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Bacteria may not seem like people to you, but they are to other bacteria. ;)
 
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snooker

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The U.S. Government is doing exactly what it said it would. I for one do not like the phrase 'Shock and Awe' but they did say up to 500 an hour would rain down on Baghdad, and that is exactly what happened.

Why do people think Americans do not stand behind what they say?? I know when I say I am going to do something, I do it. Just like my government :)


Also, It was said the Americans would not risk a urban fight with Iraqi troops, in fear of casulties. Well Iraqi Intelligence, take this back to your leader, whomever that may be at this time:



We are coming to get you. We will not stop until you are caught. Surrender now or face even more ferocious attacks on your Installations. Also please be advised that you may not use any of the Electricity we are allowing to stay on. That is for the Iraqi people!
 
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etalns

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Oh, also, they have a right to discuss the cost...considering it is their tax dollars that purchased those bombs. Like it or not, finances are an important part of this world, and if my military shot off 1000 missiles that cost over $1 billion dollars, cost too would be an important factor to me. Call me a naive, and selfish bastard, or just call me a realist...Either will work.
 
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