1000-1200 clients looking for work! :D

[Shuxclams]

Hey IndyJaws, I havent changed anything about the scropt as it didnt need anything. The setup is super easy and admin is easier. I have set "AT" commands for some start-up and stop scripts I run to turn on and off certian PC's during high usage, other than that it can be deployed right after a simple "NET VIEW > pcnames.txt" command... a little edit and your done... as simple as "SR INSTALL" and its done. It can check the progress with a "SR STATUS" and it report back all active machines and the current progress. As for the SETIQ run it off your local machine or a dedicated PC and set your install to point at that PC.....



PS: The Flexi was created in part with the LAN INSTALL by bot2600






SHUX

 

[Crazee]

Actually Indy I think Smoke was talking about both of us.

I used Shux's script to deploy it over a multisite network to over 1200 of the 3,500 PCs in the network for which I am responsible. It did an awesome job. I think it fits your needs as you have laid them out to a tee.

 

[babbage]

Oooops


sorry for ldap read DPAD

too much w2k active directory on the brain




emmmm can anyone explain how to make setiqueue point to somewhere else other than berkley?


DPAD looks like a no go at the moment however I am going to use a p4 2.4 , athlon xp 2100 and pIII 600 on a seperate network to run DPAD because ...... well because

Know it's not much, but better than nothing



Seti script installer is handy, will try to combine it with setihide running as a service using remote commander to get all features I want.

Indy I am running these on locked down pc's where users aren't given the right to right click let alone place icons on the desktop so hidden is a must as they are very likely to click and play with the icon and generally take every opportunity to break it!

Regards

Babbage

 

[BofRA]

Originally posted by: babbage



emmmm can anyone explain how to make setiqueue point to somewhere else other than berkley?


Seti script installer is handy, will try to combine it with setihide running as a service using remote commander to get all features I want.


Regards

Babbage

Ok to point the setiqueue to another setiqueue go to the settings page on the html interface and edit the proxy server setting. Change connection type to which ever proxy type serves you best and then enter the ip and port of the remote queue in proxy server blocks. If you are behind an authenticated proxy then you will have to go out via port 443. There are several queues available on that port. If you need another let me know and I can open mine back up again

As far as the setihide using the remote commander, it is pretty easy to doctor up. I am currently in testing phase for that myself

Hope this helps. Any questions just ask.

B

 

[DanC]

Know it's not much, but better than nothing

On the contrary... TeAm DPAD dances a jig! Welcome to the fold!!! :beer:

 

[InlineFive]

We need people to make easy installation and hiding scripts for other DC clients because otherwise then all the system admins go with Seti@Home.

-Por

 

[Ken g6]

Our very own Ken_g6 has written a fully featured proxy/queueing applet, if you need it.

Unfortunately, it's not designed to run independently yet. I'm working on it, though. V0.20 should be somewhat better.

I think everybody's forgotten point 7:

7 ability to halt/suspend client when particular application is running i.e winword etc

The *only* systems I know can do this are dnetc and SETI with setiHide.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Just a little blurp, but if you could run SETI that would be great, with your systems we could overtake S@NL and be one rank higher :beer:

 

[titanmiller]

My vote would go to Seti, a bump of ~5,000 WUs/Day would be awesome, and we would have a real chance of catching S@NL.

 

[Coolkid]

Originally posted by: titanmiller
My vote would go to Seti, a bump of ~5,000 WUs/Day would be awesome, and we would have a real chance of catching S@NL.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

ygpm on a simple seti deployment/monitoring setup using setidriver as a service.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: Coolkid

Originally posted by: titanmiller
My vote would go to Seti, a bump of ~5,000 WUs/Day would be awesome, and we would have a real chance of catching S@NL.

 

[Mucman]

Bump to to let Babbage and Smoke know that I got JSetiDoor running using port 80. I got 100Mbs of BW, and 10GB of HD space. The only thing I'm concerned about is the CPU utilization of this much proxy activity. It would need to go through a trial run to see if my box can handle it. My other concern is that I have to run the service as root, otherwise it would have to be a port over 1024. If all goes well, I'll like into implementing jail or chroot to fix any of my security concerns.

 

[Adul]

1200 machines

 

[Vich]

status?

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: Coolkid

Originally posted by: titanmiller
My vote would go to Seti, a bump of ~5,000 WUs/Day would be awesome, and we would have a real chance of catching S@NL.

 

[MSIuser]

D2OL could really do with a boost before we lose top stop because DPC is making a push which would be really nice to have caught back. As far as installers go I ain't too sure.

 

[babbage]

Status


Have got the seti installer sorted and setiqueue so that end looks fine

Multiple installs via a text list is also ok

Serious problems using setihide in this scenario

Still working on this

DPAD is out as stated earlier due to various issues however three clients dedicated to it, but having difficulties sending through a firewall, but will continue. By the way this whole DC strikes me as a bit flakey, had issues wth the website, installing, uploading, etc.
The whole "running the server from a bedroom" feeling doesn't inspire confidence.


No other DC's are really suitable, sorry

lobadobadingdong has made a Q available for seti port 80 transfers so thats ok Thanks


My only problem at the moment is that a lot of the PC's will be running a live client application that processes request in the background using idle CPU time so I have to be able to suspend when this client is running.

Most PC's are switched off at night so timed running is not really an option

Any thought or contributions are welcome

Re the Cheater thread earlier, this not any testing or old clients from me, so the cheater thread is still valid

regards

Babbage

 

[BlackMountainCow]

The prob with DPAD was that a few days ago, the forum provider of Stephen's website made an update to all forums, but didn't ask his users about it. So he screwed up the whole site of Stephen, along with the scripts on it and the files. As his server is at work, he couldn't fix it untill Monday. So the whole thing was down for the weekend. He said he has sorted that problem by now.

As for the firewall, yeah that's a problem with sending. U might try the "passive mode" in your config.txt, it might help. I use ZonaAlarmPro and can't send with it either. I always have to shut it down first.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: BlackMountainCow
The prob with DPAD was that a few days ago, the forum provider of Stephen's website made an update to all forums, but didn't ask his users about it. So he screwed up the whole site of Stephen, along with the scripts on it and the files. As his server is at work, he couldn't fix it untill Monday. So the whole thing was down for the weekend. He said he has sorted that problem by now.

As for the firewall, yeah that's a problem with sending. U might try the "passive mode" in your config.txt, it might help. I use ZonaAlarmPro and can't send with it either. I always have to shut it down first.

Passive mode works fine for me with WinXP's firewall, but ZoneAlarm was so crappy that it seemed to prevent every application I use that depends on FTP from functioning. :frown:

 

[Unforgiven]

zone alarm is a great firewall, its just that the dpad client doesnt want to play nice with it on windows xp. it runs fine for me on 98/nt/2k but i cant get past the zone alarm issue in xp. i think that babbage's observation of the dpad project (sad but true) is pretty telling. ive been having the same concerns regarding this project that i get the feel that its being run out of a one pc station in a garage somewhere. no offense to stephen brooks but the project needs more helpers or something to make it look more professional and a website that is user friendly rather than the current state that its in.

 

[aberant]

not to hijack the thread, but zone alarm is crap, it had the v large security hole recently which hardly inspires confidence, and it can't import large numbers of ip addys. get sygate or outpost

 

[babbage]

Two big problems

1 At about 1mb of Wu per day per client I am looking at about 1Gb of data download per day!!!!!!!!!!!

2 setiqueue and setihide do not play nice together, different wu caching so I can't get the seti clients to use setiqueue for the cache and connection to the internet
setihide does cache on a network but as each cache runs dry the individual setihide client connects to the internet for fresh WUs. A bit daunting that!

It's not looking good

So far I have been able to use remote commander to copy the install files for the seticlient and setihide to the remote pc
Install setihide preconfigured to use network caches
client starts up

so its close

but I am also looking at the sheer administration cost of this project, particularly if anything goes wrong.
Imagine 10 min per client that fails to install properly, and 200 clients have problems

Thats a lot of time

The only reason I need setihide is to stop the client when our own application starts.

Anybody know another way of doing this without using setihide?

Any ideas on the sheer quantity of data required for 1000 plus clients???


Regards

Babbage

 

[Smoke]

PMs have been sent to TeAm Mates that might be able to help out on this. If anyone thinks they can help out, please step up.

babbage,

Concerning Point 1:

You can setup your SetiQueue to only communicate with the outside Queue (Mucman's JSetiDoor in this case) during slack hours ... for instance, in the middle of the night. You can adjust this time by going into your SetiQueue's Settings and adjusting the PROCESSING TIMES.

On Point 2:

SetiHide works on my small home LAN with SetiQueue just fine but there may be some issues about a large network that are beyond my pay grade.

That said, there is a non-caching method of installing over a LAN called the "FlexInstaller". Check out Shuxclams website for Service Installs I have asked Shuxclams to give you some assistance on this.

I just downloaded the FlexInstaller and ran it to see how it would work. It has a pretty easy interface for installing on your entire network all at one time.

Problems I see here are (1) there are no cached WUs on each Client which means as each WU is completed the Client will have to upload the results and download a new WU from your internal SetiQueue and (2) there is no "built-in" method of starting and stopping the Cli Clients once the process has begun.

Suggestion (until someone can chime in with a solution for us):

Run the FlexInstaller and only put it on a few of your network machines. That way you can at least get Seti going and WUs flowing through Your Internal SetiQueue and Mucman's JSetiDoor Queue which he has created especially for your individual use. These "few" machines can then be experimented on to try and find solutions to any issues that may arise. You will need to initially coordinate with Mucman to get your Q and his JQ working together. After that it should be automatic. He has the capacity to handle your production.

 

[dxkj]

In response to Babbage worrying about 1GB per day of bandwidth.


That is only, on average, (1024*1024)kB/day / 24hrs*60min*60sec = 12kB/s which is about 2x as much bandwidth as a dial up account.

If you have even a T1 for all those machines, it will be an unnoticedable drop in the bucket!