$100 tip for bad service

ThinClient · Sep 29, 2014

alkemyst said:
I hope the mods send you on your way.

Now you know how the vast majority of this forum feels about you.

I mean, why would you even say something like this?

ThinClient · Sep 29, 2014

Springs1 said:
WHO SAID IT WASN'T? Was the table before the 11 other tables and was made to wait 20 minutes for waters because the server decided to let the other 11 tables CUT in front of their turn? Did the server FORGET to put in their orders or wait too long to put in their orders on purpose to CUT?

I am not sure WHERE You get it's not the server's fault?

You're right.

It's the waiter's fault, at least in part, for ignoring the table.

angminas · Sep 30, 2014

smackababy said:
However, I can't think of a single situation where bad service would not be the fault of the server or the kitchen, and the manager except if you think the manager is responsible for not training the staff or keeping around bad ones.

Way to narrow it down. You've made it very easy to tell who's to blame.

drebo said:
It's too bad the servers have to tip out everyone else based on percentage.

They do? Where did it say that? Not all restaurants do that.

20 minutes for water seems excessive for a seasoned waiter, but maybe this guy was new. Maybe he didn't know to ask the manager for help, or maybe he did and the manager was a lazy ass, or maybe the GM simply didn't hire / schedule / train properly and the shift manager was screwed no matter what he did. If you get given too much to do (especially when you don't have enough experience), the ability to keep the proper sequence of events in your head (greet #1, water #2, carry out entree to #5, pick up drinks at bar for #1) can break down and it's all you can do to keep moving and keep doing SOMETHING. Once the situation is FUBAR, a person can be giving 100% and still be making what would otherwise be called mistakes all over the place.

Who was responsible for seating 12 tables with this guy? Why were they letting so many people in if they weren't staffed? Who was responsible for there not being more help? Who didn't tell people they were massively busy and understaffed (for X reason) and the wait would be unusually long? If the waiter is nice and hardworking but stupid, why did they keep him waiting tables?

Somewhere, somehow, probably in many ways, management goofed.

jpeyton · Sep 30, 2014

2014 - the year posting tips on restaurant receipts became cool

disappoint · Sep 30, 2014

jpeyton said:
2014 - the year posting tips on restaurant receipts became cool

2014 - The year the U.S. population came to grips that they have f-ed up so badly that the U.S. is becoming a service economy. Soon, the only "jobs" available will be service jobs: teacher, doctor/nurse/orderly, lawyer/paralegal/secretary, cook, plumber, firefighter, cop, waiter/tress, maid, stripper, hardware reviewer, Paul Blart Mall cop, investment banker/bank teller, politician. In no particular order. Ok, I admit, from bad to worse. I'm kidding about the order of some of those.

So this is all people talk about now. 99% of the threads here are service job related threads.

dabuddha · Sep 30, 2014

I'd be pissed that they posted my receipt on the internet

Possessed Freak · Sep 30, 2014

I recall being at a diner that was open after a hurricane. It was the only place open in town. They were short on EVERYTHING, but still tried to make it work. Place was packed. People were getting pissed because the normal prompt service was really slow that day. But the way most saw it was that this sure as hell beat cold food when you had no power. I know I left a 20 dollar tip, I know others left awesome tips as well. What else was I going to do for the hours it took to get my food, sit in my house with the electricity off?

amdhunter · Sep 30, 2014

Tips shouldn't be allowed at all. Just give them minimum wage like everyone else.

rh71 · Sep 30, 2014

bad tips - waiters find jobs elsewhere - turnover shows management they suck... so that's why you DON'T leave a nice tip. 12 tables to a waiter? You shouldn't even seat that many people when you are understaffed.

And waiting 20 minutes for water? I've seen people get up and walk out faster than that.

Scarpozzi · Sep 30, 2014

rh71 said:
bad tips - waiters find jobs elsewhere - turnover shows management they suck... so that's why you DON'T leave a nice tip. 12 tables to a waiter? You shouldn't even seat that many people when you are understaffed.

And waiting 20 minutes for water? I've seen people get up and walk out faster than that.

That would probably do the servers a bigger favor if people did get up and walk out.

Schfifty Five · Sep 30, 2014

dabuddha said:
I'd be pissed that they posted my receipt on the internet

Huh? That IS their receipt. The customers who left the tip are the ones who posted the receipt.

ThinClient · Sep 30, 2014

jpeyton said:
2014 - the year posting tips on restaurant receipts became cool

"Never pet a burning dog."

dabuddha · Sep 30, 2014

Schfifty Five said:
Huh? That IS their receipt. The customers who left the tip are the ones who posted the receipt.

ahh I just assumed it was the waitress. My mistake

disappoint · Sep 30, 2014

Schfifty Five said:
Huh? That IS their receipt. The customers who left the tip are the ones who posted the receipt.

Unless someone took the pic over the customer's shoulder.

Newell Steamer · Sep 30, 2014

Tipping seems to be these forum's ON mode for rage (as well as bikes and women).

Holy crap guys, it's not even your money.

disappoint · Sep 30, 2014

Newell Steamer said:
Tipping seems to be these forum's ON mode for rage (as well as bikes and women).

Holy crap guys, it's not even your money.

Don't forget grammar and spelling corrections.

dumbass: I are such noobery.
Person: incorrect, the correct way to say what you wa...
dumbass: STFU GRAMMER NAZI YAR!
Person: oh shii...how many Jews died because I tried to help you with your spelling or grammar?
dumbass: All of them!
Person: wtf? I see grammar and spelling aren't your only faults. Logic too? You poor bastard!
dumbass: FUUUUU....(enter rage mode)

alkemyst · Sep 30, 2014

angminas said:
Who was responsible for seating 12 tables with this guy? Why were they letting so many people in if they weren't staffed? Who was responsible for there not being more help? Who didn't tell people they were massively busy and understaffed (for X reason) and the wait would be unusually long? If the waiter is nice and hardworking but stupid, why did they keep him waiting tables?

Somewhere, somehow, probably in many ways, management goofed.

I don't know of any restaurant that will turn away a paying customer just because half their staff called in.

alkemyst · Sep 30, 2014

Scarpozzi said:
That would probably do the servers a bigger favor if people did get up and walk out.

Because then they go home with only about $8 for the night?

ThinClient · Sep 30, 2014

alkemyst said:
Because then they go home with only about $8 for the night?

Sucks to be them. Maybe they should get a 2nd job or get a different job if they're not content with the paycheck they agreed to receive when they took the job.

alkemyst · Sep 30, 2014

ThinClient said:
Sucks to be them. Maybe they should get a 2nd job or get a different job if they're not content with the paycheck they agreed to receive when they took the job.

...and here we go.

angminas · Sep 30, 2014

alkemyst said:
I don't know of any restaurant that will turn away a paying customer just because half their staff called in.

Turn them away, no. Close down sections you can't cover before they get overseated, yes.

brianmanahan · Sep 30, 2014

alkemyst said:
...and here we go.

i think you mean

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