$100 fill-up coming to pump near you

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I probably spend $100 or less on gas every month. However, if I were to take the bus to/from work, it would still cost me $100/month on the goddamn pass....and that doesn't include the fill ups from all the other places I drive. I want to take the bus...but fuck 'em until they give me some incentive.

helping to save the planet is not incentive enough?

nope. especially when i see the emission of vehicles in other countries.

 

[RU482]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Hah, comparing the cost to fill up a car is useless without knowing the total distance it can go on average, on that single tank.

QFT..if I had a 1000 gallon tank it would cost a shitload to fill it up, but I'd be going pretty damn far too.

Plus, the whole argument that SUV owners are hurting the most is ridiculous. Everyone hurts a proportional amount, whether you drive a Hummer or a Civic. The amount you pay will increase by the same proportionate amount, but the difference is that someone can afford an Escalade will generally have more income than someone who drives a Geo Metro.

I am trying to picture how many MPG a Geo Metro with a 1000Gallon tank would get.
Oh yeah, zero

 

[upsciLLion]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I probably spend $100 or less on gas every month. However, if I were to take the bus to/from work, it would still cost me $100/month on the goddamn pass....and that doesn't include the fill ups from all the other places I drive. I want to take the bus...but fuck 'em until they give me some incentive.

helping to save the planet is not incentive enough?

The bus still has emissions. It's not saving the plant, but rather killing it less quickly.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I probably spend $100 or less on gas every month. However, if I were to take the bus to/from work, it would still cost me $100/month on the goddamn pass....and that doesn't include the fill ups from all the other places I drive. I want to take the bus...but fuck 'em until they give me some incentive.

helping to save the planet is not incentive enough?

The bus still has emissions. It's not saving the plant, but rather killing it less quickly.

they have fuel cell equipped buses. zero pollution at the tailpipe (i said at the tailpipe)

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I probably spend $100 or less on gas every month. However, if I were to take the bus to/from work, it would still cost me $100/month on the goddamn pass....and that doesn't include the fill ups from all the other places I drive. I want to take the bus...but fuck 'em until they give me some incentive.

helping to save the planet is not incentive enough?

nope. especially when i see the emission of vehicles in other countries.

how about we save the planet, one country at a time?

 

[Xavier434]

I hate SUVs for many reasons including this one. Ya ya ya, I have heard all the arguments and I understand both sides. I'm not saying this to provoke another one. I still hate them though. My SO has one and she spends $70 on gas to fill her tank every 5-7 days and she only uses it to go to and from work which is only 30 min in Miami traffic. I spend $40 every 5-7 days and I drive many more miles than she does in that time.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I probably spend $100 or less on gas every month. However, if I were to take the bus to/from work, it would still cost me $100/month on the goddamn pass....and that doesn't include the fill ups from all the other places I drive. I want to take the bus...but fuck 'em until they give me some incentive.

helping to save the planet is not incentive enough?

The bus still has emissions. It's not saving the plant, but rather killing it less quickly.

they have fuel cell equipped buses. zero pollution at the tailpipe (i said at the tailpipe)

No...."they" do not, at least not here, unless you're only taking the 16th St Mallride, which is free anyway.

I didn't go into details, but I will now. Taking the bus translates into having to park at the park-n-ride, waiting in the cold, getting up earlier than I usually would, still suffer through the traffic slowdowns since it has to get on the highway, pay more $$$ and take almost 25% longer to get to work, stick to a rigid bus schedule.

IF it saved me money I could be compelled to withstand all the other inconveniences. Besides, I'd get to sit and read or sleep during the ride. BUT, losing all the advantages to driving my own car and paying more money per month is stupid.

Hopefully things might change if they ever get the lightrail up north of the city.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Highest I've hit is $74. Of course I don't normally wait until my tank is empty. '87 Caprice, 5.0v8, 21gal tank. Mileage is still better than a lot of trucks/suv's even some modern cars, but it is getting expensive. I wish I could afford another vehicle. If gas hits $4/gal the only thing I'll be able to afford to fill is a Vespa.

my brothers vespa has a 3 gal tank... 12 bucks is all you spend on gas now? :laugh:

Hehehe... nah, just that maintainence is a bi*** sometimes. I used to be able to work on it more myself, but I live in an apt now. No garage FTL. I commute about 110mi round trip each day. Fuel is a pretty big percentage of my expenses nowadays.

ya if i was staring at that kind of mileage id buy a more efficient vehicle too. but i drive about 40 round trip a day so it doesnt affect me much. unless i do out of town trips, which coculd be up to 900 a week or so. but i get mileage too so it all evens out =P

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: altonb1
I call Shens regarding $100 fill-ups.

Most pumps cut off at $50 or at the most $75 for credit card transactions.

never heard of that for gas, i go over 50 bucks with my camry all the time, now diesel yes that was true in Denver last year when there was a diesel shortage and pumps cut off at $75.00

lots of stations had 50 and 75 dollar limits back when the price was just tipping the 2 dollar scales. most i go to now have taken those limits off. i hated it and complained every time. now i dont have to.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Well, I'm looking forward to the used market being flooded with cheap trucks and SUVs since I'm looking at buying one in the near future.

We live a little further out then before, its a little over 20 miles commute to work for us (we car pool these days) but in the elantra that amounts to like ~130/mo for getting to work with current prices so I'm not hurting to much there.

My dodge neon is just sitting in the fucking driveway 98% of the time now, waiting to stop starting altogether. I really don't want to drive that hunk of crap any more. But we could use a truck with 4WD.

There's a ton of rangers for sale all of a sudden. I think I might end up buying one even though I was looking for a nissan recently.

theres a good reason for that. first, they are fords. second, they are very underpowered in 2wd, i cant imagine having one in 4wd. third, they are fairly small (im 6'3") and the seats wear out easily. fifth, the tires are way too small so you have to upgrade it to even be really practical. twelfth, theres a serious lack of up holders. doesnt seem like a big deal until you have a manual transmission.

yes, i drove one for a long time for work. i hated it. a lot.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus


:thumbsup: I live in an area that has a pretty good mix of homes and quite a bit of industry so finding work close to home for me has been relatively easy. Still, I work with people who spent the last 10 years or so moving out to areas where they could buy a larger home for less money but they are driving 20-30 miles in heavy traffic 5 days a week and spending at least 2 hours a day in their car. I'd rather have a smaller house close to where I work and be able to ride my bike to work (which I do).

It also amazes me that so many people just bury their head in the sand and keep buying these gas guzzling behemoths. Gas is just going to keep increasing in price as oil becomes more difficult to extract and demand keeps increasing. I welcome higher gas prices. Maybe then we, as a nation, will actually do something about our reliance on oil.

Seriously, it's like someone telling you that your local dump is too full of trash and that if you don't cut down your waste it will pollute the water you drink and you'll start to smell it so what do you do? You throw out your recycle bin and create even more trash.

i bought my truck for very specific reasons. i dont think i have my head in the sand, and im sure others feel the same way. ever try to transport a motorcycle to a shop in a prius? how about driving a camry to a job site that is not near conventional roads? how about pull a trailer full of stuff across town? these are just a few reasons i got a truck instead of a mini truck or a car. dont think i went into it not knowing full well how much gas would cost for it, or the fact that prices werent going down soon.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus


:thumbsup: I live in an area that has a pretty good mix of homes and quite a bit of industry so finding work close to home for me has been relatively easy. Still, I work with people who spent the last 10 years or so moving out to areas where they could buy a larger home for less money but they are driving 20-30 miles in heavy traffic 5 days a week and spending at least 2 hours a day in their car. I'd rather have a smaller house close to where I work and be able to ride my bike to work (which I do).

It also amazes me that so many people just bury their head in the sand and keep buying these gas guzzling behemoths. Gas is just going to keep increasing in price as oil becomes more difficult to extract and demand keeps increasing. I welcome higher gas prices. Maybe then we, as a nation, will actually do something about our reliance on oil.

Seriously, it's like someone telling you that your local dump is too full of trash and that if you don't cut down your waste it will pollute the water you drink and you'll start to smell it so what do you do? You throw out your recycle bin and create even more trash.

i bought my truck for very specific reasons. i dont think i have my head in the sand, and im sure others feel the same way. ever try to transport a motorcycle to a shop in a prius? how about driving a camry to a job site that is not near conventional roads? how about pull a trailer full of stuff across town? these are just a few reasons i got a truck instead of a mini truck or a car. dont think i went into it not knowing full well how much gas would cost for it, or the fact that prices werent going down soon.

You may have good reasons, but I'll bet that the vast majority of SUV owners sitting outside my office parking lot can't make the same argument. Hell just driving down the road you will rarely see an SUV packed to the point where a typical car could not fulfill the same need and do it with comfort and style.

Many might tell about their once every couple month instance where the SUV helped out. Ok fine but think about it this way. How much extra did you spend on the once every couple month convenience? Is it more or less than the cost to rent an SUV/Truck for a day?


***EDIT***

Also keep in mind that most wear and tear parts of SUVs are more expensive than cars and they often cost more to own especially in comparison to your average new economy car which are often quite comfortable and spacious these days.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus


:thumbsup: I live in an area that has a pretty good mix of homes and quite a bit of industry so finding work close to home for me has been relatively easy. Still, I work with people who spent the last 10 years or so moving out to areas where they could buy a larger home for less money but they are driving 20-30 miles in heavy traffic 5 days a week and spending at least 2 hours a day in their car. I'd rather have a smaller house close to where I work and be able to ride my bike to work (which I do).

It also amazes me that so many people just bury their head in the sand and keep buying these gas guzzling behemoths. Gas is just going to keep increasing in price as oil becomes more difficult to extract and demand keeps increasing. I welcome higher gas prices. Maybe then we, as a nation, will actually do something about our reliance on oil.

Seriously, it's like someone telling you that your local dump is too full of trash and that if you don't cut down your waste it will pollute the water you drink and you'll start to smell it so what do you do? You throw out your recycle bin and create even more trash.

i bought my truck for very specific reasons. i dont think i have my head in the sand, and im sure others feel the same way. ever try to transport a motorcycle to a shop in a prius? how about driving a camry to a job site that is not near conventional roads? how about pull a trailer full of stuff across town? these are just a few reasons i got a truck instead of a mini truck or a car. dont think i went into it not knowing full well how much gas would cost for it, or the fact that prices werent going down soon.

You may have good reasons, but I'll bet that the vast majority of SUV owners sitting outside my office parking lot can't make the same argument. Hell just driving down the road you will rarely see an SUV packed to the point where a typical car could not fulfill the same need and do it with comfort and style.

Many might tell about their once every couple month instance where the SUV helped out. Ok fine but think about it this way. How much extra did you spend on the once every couple month convenience? Is it more or less than the cost to rent an SUV/Truck for a day?

actually, as a project manager and an industrial programmer i spend more time in a construction environment than most people do, and most is in sites that dont have roads. i also carry many things daily that wouldnt fit in a car. its more like a ccouple times a week instead of the every ouple months that youre saying. i dont disagree with you however, i have friends that own 4X4 SUVs that have street tires and have never seen more dirt than their front yard. when i had my suburban 4X4 it was the only way we could take the whole fam damily camping and still take the dogs safely. it was also the only way to go to dinner with other family members, since it sat 8. that way we were actually saving gas, since we all piled into the burb instead of taking two vehicles.

oh ya, i never said they were good reasons, just my reasons.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
The only solution is for people to move closer to work and for cities to compress.

Absolutely correct, but try getting most people to give up their large house in the "safe" suburbs for a small condo/apartment close to downtown.

Historically, cheap gas has allowed people to use their cars to escape congestion and live out in the suburbs, away from densification and the feeling of being "crowded". Eventually, more people move to an area of the suburbs, it becomes more crowded, and people move even farther away from the city centre.

It's like a greyhound chasing the mechanical rat. People think they can still escape the congestion, but at a certain point, the sprawl becomes unmanageable when people live long distances from a city centre. Everyone converges on the same freeway which is supposed to streamline the commute, but there are too many cars on it because so many people have moved out to the suburbs. It costs too much to use a large amount of fuel for commuting into the city every day. Crisis.

Cliffs: Urban sprawl FTL.

absolutely wrong. its not about escaping the congestion its about living in a house one can afford. I work in boulder but live 30 miles away because when i bought my house there was no way i could afford a 400K note. we like our neighborhood and dont plan on moving. i know very few people with professional jobs that live close to their office.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
The only solution is for people to move closer to work and for cities to compress.

Why do you hate fellow Americans that live out on the country so much?

What did they do to you?

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I probably spend $100 or less on gas every month. However, if I were to take the bus to/from work, it would still cost me $100/month on the goddamn pass....and that doesn't include the fill ups from all the other places I drive. I want to take the bus...but fuck 'em until they give me some incentive.

helping to save the planet is not incentive enough?

nope. especially when i see the emission of vehicles in other countries.

how about we save the planet, one country at a time?

who is this "we"???

oh i you mean you.... well knock yourself out Skippy. let me know when you get to India.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
The only solution is for people to move closer to work and for cities to compress.

Why do you hate fellow Americans that live out on the country so much?

What did they do to you?

I don't hate my fellow Americans who live in the country. Like Skoorb, I hate my fellow Americans who live in the suburbs and commute to the city. They create sprawl, waste resources, replace beautiful forests and wetlands with concrete and crabgrass, and waste their lives commuting-- and worst of all, my tax dollars pay for the radial highways that allow them to do this.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

You may have good reasons, but I'll bet that the vast majority of SUV owners sitting outside my office parking lot can't make the same argument. Hell just driving down the road you will rarely see an SUV packed to the point where a typical car could not fulfill the same need and do it with comfort and style.

Many might tell about their once every couple month instance where the SUV helped out. Ok fine but think about it this way. How much extra did you spend on the once every couple month convenience? Is it more or less than the cost to rent an SUV/Truck for a day?


***EDIT***

Also keep in mind that most wear and tear parts of SUVs are more expensive than cars and they often cost more to own especially in comparison to your average new economy car which are often quite comfortable and spacious these days.

I would generally tend to agree about most people not really needing them. But hey, if they can afford them I guess thats their business. Gas isn't getting any cheaper so their next purchase may be a little different though. I have seen a lot of full size trucks that probably haven't hauled anything more then a couple of dogs.

Your last point is one that I don't think gets brought up a lot but is true. The gas cost probably isn't that big of a deal, but the parts, tires and insurance don't save you money usually either!