10 years later

[Genx87]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/...mbine.myths/index.html

I find this rather interesting because we see a lot of this in politics as well. People will frame a situation, candidate, or platform that is false. But the public latches onto its first impression and it is hard to shake. I can think of a few times in the past few years this has happened in the political arena.

I havent followed this story much once the media frenzy died down. But I had heard a couple of months ago about the myth's the media pushed onto us. Interesting stuff.

 

[ProfJohn]

His book looks very interesting.

The reasons for their killing spree may be different than what we first thought, but the fact that they were both crazy has not changed.

 

[NeoV]

I heard the story about asking that girl if she believed in god a number of times

reminds me of that female soldier and the story around what really took place w/her

 

[CrackRabbit]

If there is a hell, I hope those two fuckers are burning in it right now.
I was a high school senior in 1999, for nearly a week afterwords the school was a ghost town out of fear of copy cats.
Their actions are a big part in the change of schools being places to learn to prisons where learning is secondary.

 

[Zedtom]

The two psychopaths made their place in history even if their intentions are still being debated. The one reality that will never be challenged is that the teacher, Dave Sanders, died three and one half hours after being shot. The law enforcement apologists have built their own mythology around why it took so long to get medical help to him.

 

[Craig234]

This book came from the article the author first wrote for Salon.com.

Here's a far more informative link, with a recent interview by Salon's editor, who was the author's editor for the article, of the author.

It is interestind background on his research. The mainstream media disappointed.

Link to interview

 

[Tab3076]

So, basically these guys weren't bullied or abused - they were just batshit fucking psycho. :/

 

[Cheeseplug]

How can they not have been bullied or abused in some way - it isn't like the other shooting sprees.

At NIU, or VT there was one shooter and they might have just been crazy.

But at columbine there were two shooters, and they had meticulously planned it out for over a year. I just don't buy that it was only due to them being crazy.

 

[Amused]

Was listening to the History Channel yesterday and they had a tape of the father of one of the shooters calling 911 during the shooting and telling police he feared his son may be one of the shooters because his son was a member of the "Trench Coat Mafia." So I wouldn't call that a myth.

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: Tab3076
So, basically these guys weren't bullied or abused - they were just batshit fucking psycho. :/

No, it was because of the violent video games. Come on, man.

Amused: All that proves is that the kid's father didn't know anything about him (big surprise that the father of a kid who shoots up a school is not involved in his kid's life). The pair were not a part of the "Trenchcoat Mafia," although I think they associated with one guy who was in it.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Amused
Was listening to the History Channel yesterday and they had a tape of the father of one of the shooters calling 911 during the shooting and telling police he feared his son may be one of the shooters because his son was a member of the "Trench Coat Mafia." So I wouldn't call that a myth.

Soounds like dad may have been confused or misinformed. Because it appears from the article the Trench Coat Mafia was real but were a group of kids who already graduated.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Amused
Was listening to the History Channel yesterday and they had a tape of the father of one of the shooters calling 911 during the shooting and telling police he feared his son may be one of the shooters because his son was a member of the "Trench Coat Mafia." So I wouldn't call that a myth.

Soounds like dad may have been confused or misinformed. Because it appears from the article the Trench Coat Mafia was real but were a group of kids who already graduated.

I think it shows that the boys considered themselves part of that group. Where else would the father have got the idea except from his own kid?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Amused
Was listening to the History Channel yesterday and they had a tape of the father of one of the shooters calling 911 during the shooting and telling police he feared his son may be one of the shooters because his son was a member of the "Trench Coat Mafia." So I wouldn't call that a myth.

Soounds like dad may have been confused or misinformed. Because it appears from the article the Trench Coat Mafia was real but were a group of kids who already graduated.

I think it shows that the boys considered themselves part of that group. Where else would the father have got the idea except from his own kid?

That may be but they werent part of the group regardless of what dad thought or was told.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Amused
Was listening to the History Channel yesterday and they had a tape of the father of one of the shooters calling 911 during the shooting and telling police he feared his son may be one of the shooters because his son was a member of the "Trench Coat Mafia." So I wouldn't call that a myth.

Soounds like dad may have been confused or misinformed. Because it appears from the article the Trench Coat Mafia was real but were a group of kids who already graduated.

I think it shows that the boys considered themselves part of that group. Where else would the father have got the idea except from his own kid?

That may be but they werent part of the group regardless of what dad thought or was told.

What is it? A national organization with a headquarters? No, it's a fictitious name that any kid could claim, and they did. Just because some other kids called themselves that too a class or two earlier doesn't mean these two didn't copnsider themselves the same thing.