10 US Troops Killed On Memorial Day; 5 Britons Kidnapped

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By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer

Gunmen in police uniforms and driving vehicles used by security forces kidnapped five Britons from an Iraqi Finance Ministry office Tuesday, and a senior Iraqi official said the radical Shiite Mahdi Army militia was suspected.

Compounding the fresh evidence of chaos in Iraq, the U.S. military announced that a total of 10 American soldiers were killed in roadside bombings and a helicopter crash on Memorial Day, making May ? at 113 fatalities ? the third deadliest month of the war.

Across the country Tuesday, police and morgue officials contacted by The Associated Press reported a total of at least 120 people killed or found dead. All of the officials refused to allow use of their names fearing they could be targeted by militants.

The Finance Ministry kidnappings, if the work of the Mahdi Army as asserted by Iraqi officials, could be retaliation for the killing by British forces last week of the militia's commander in Basra.

The raid also was reminiscent of an attack by the Shiite militiamen, dressed as Interior Ministry commandos, who stormed a Higher Education Ministry office Nov. 14 and snatched away as many as 200 people. Dozens of those kidnap victims were never been found.

The Mahdi Army, which is deeply embedded in the Iraqi security forces, also was believed looking for a way to avenge the recent killing by U.S. forces of a top operative. He was said to have been the author of an attack in the holy city of Karbala in January in which gunmen ? speaking English, wearing U.S. military uniforms and carrying American weapons ? abducted four U.S. soldiers and then shot them to death.

In the Finance Ministry attack, about 40 heavily armed men snatched the five Britons from an annex and sped away in a convoy of 19 four-wheel-drive vehicles toward Sadr City, the Mahdi Army stronghold not far away, according to the British Foreign office in London and Iraqi officials in the Interior and Finance ministries.

Joe Gavaghan, a spokesman for Montreal-based security firm GardaWorld, confirmed that four of its security workers and one client were kidnapped. All four GardaWorld workers are British citizens, he said, declining to provide more details.

A spokesman for BearingPoint, a McLean, Va.,-based management consulting firm, said one of the company's employees, apparently the client referred to by Gavaghan, was among those abducted.

"We have been informed that a BearingPoint employee working in Iraq was taken from a work site early this morning," Steve Lunceford, the BearingPoint spokesman, wrote in an e-mail to AP.

BearingPoint has been working in Iraq since 2003 on a U.S. Agency for International Development-funded contract to support economic recovery and reform, Lunceford said.

A senior official in the Iraqi Interior Ministry confirmed the five were British and that Mahdi Army militiamen were believed responsible. The official would provide the information only on condition that his name not be used.

Maj. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf, the Interior Ministry spokesman, said the abduction was carried out by men wearing police uniforms who showed up at the Finance Ministry data collection facility in the 19 four-wheel drive vehicles of the type used by police. Like the other officials, he said the kidnappers sped off toward Sadr City.

Eight of the U.S. soldiers killed on Monday were from Task Force Lightning. Six were killed in an insurgent roadside bomb ambush as they raced to rescue the two others, who died in a helicopter crash. The military did not say if the helicopter was shot down or had mechanical problems. All eight died in Diyala province north of the capital.

"We know that the helicopter had received ground fire, but do not know yet the cause of the helicopter going down," Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, a military spokesman, said in an interview with Associated Press Radio.

Two other American troopers died Monday in a roadside bombing in south Baghdad, the military said in a separate statement issued at Camp Victory in Baghdad.

Since the war began in March 2003, only two other months have recorded higher death tolls for U.S. troops: November 2004 with 137 deaths, and April 2004 with 135 fatalities.

Baghdad police, meanwhile, said two car bombers hit neighborhoods on opposite sides of the Tigris River on Tuesday, killing at least 40 people and wounding 123 others. A Shiite mosque was destroyed in the second of the two attacks, in the Amil neighborhood in west Baghdad.

The first attack hit Tayaran Square, riddling cars with shrapnel, knocking over pushcarts and sending smoke into the sky, witnesses said. The blast killed 23 people and wounded 68 others, a police official in the district said on condition he not be named. The official said his superiors refused to allow him to speak to reporters.

Yousef Qasim, 37, was working in his fabric shop 200 yards away when the blast tore through a line of buses waiting at the square, he said.

"I rushed there to see about four or five burning bodies," he said. "I saw flesh on the ground and pools of blood."

Shop owners grabbed their wares and tried to flee, fearing a second blast, said Talib Dhirgham, who owns a nearby laundry. Police who arrived at the scene confiscated the cameras of journalists who came to cover the aftermath, according to AP photographers and television cameramen.

More than an hour later, a pickup truck parked next to a Shiite mosque in the Amil district in western Baghdad exploded, demolishing the mosque, killing 17 people and wounding 55 others, according to a second police official, who also spoke on condition anonymity because he felt use of his name would put his life in danger.

The mosque was reduced to rubble and piles of brick, according to AP Television News videotape. Cars were flipped over, charred and dented. Residents pushed debris off nearby roofs.

In another statement issued at Camp Victory, the U.S. military said the Amil explosion was the work of a suicide bomber in a white Honda. The military did not give a death toll.

"We will work closely with our Iraqi Security Force partners to bring those responsible to justice in accordance with Iraqi laws," said Col. Ricky D. Gibbs, commander of the 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division.

Of the 120 reported killed or found dead nationwide on Tuesday, 35 were bodies dumped or buried in a newly dug mass grave in Diyala province. A morgue official in Baqouba, the provincial capital, and a spokesman at the provincial police operations center in the province both reported the same figure, but refused to be named fearing reprisal from al-Qaida militants and Shiite militias battling for control of the region.

In other violence, gunmen in Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, set up fake checkpoints on the outskirts of the city and abducted more than 40 people, most of them soldiers, police officers and members of two tribes that had banded together against local insurgents, according to a police official in the city. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he feared retribution.

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Looks like al-Sadr's men took his latest message to heart, with their latest attack focused on Britons in the Finance Ministry.

Losing 10 soldiers in one day (almost 3 times the daily average) must mean the insurgents worked overtime on Memorial Day, for symbolic reasons.

But with widespread death continuing among the general Iraqi population, it seems that the surge is a failure for yet another month.

If you examine the insurgent strategy, using guerilla tactics with ever more powerful IED attacks (like this one; I'll warn you, it's disturbing footage), they can kill our troops safely from a distance for pennies on the dollar of what we pay to wage war.
 

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I'm confused, ProfJohn was doing such a good job convincing me all this death and carnage is waxing and waning.
 

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People are getting immune from the trickle of daily American deaths in Iraq and that's a bad thing. Something big has to happen to capture the attention of the American people or else this carnage will continue forever.
 

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Originally posted by: Narmer
People are getting immune from the trickle of daily American deaths in Iraq and that's a bad thing. Something big has to happen to capture the attention of the American people or else this carnage will continue forever.


I'm waiting for Iran to take the bait and teach the Navy a lesson for sailing a carrier too close to them....

that will wake people up
 

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
I'm waiting for Iran to take the bait and teach the Navy a lesson for sailing a carrier too close to them....

that will wake people up
True. I doubt Americans have the stomach for the draft needed for an invasion of Iran.
 

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I have it all figured out---at the rate we are going after 4.25 years in Iraq---we will get to Vietnam toll of 58,000 in about 71.366 years---and subtracting the existing 4.25 years, we should have that goal in 2074. Stay the course.

But one problem---accepting what I regard as an underestimated figure of 64,351 Iraqi civilian deaths shows its going to take 1651 years to kill all 25 million Iraqi's.
Stay the course.

But if we just ask GWB---maybe he can figure out a way to step up the pace for the impatient. Suuurrrge.
 

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10 dead or 1 or 100, all is a terrible loss. And my condolences to their families dring this difficult time.
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This whole surge thing just shows what the army realy said from teh beginning but too many in the Army or military in general did not want to say. And that is we can win a war comapratively easily as we did in GW II. It was mission accomplished "at that time".

But what was then needed was a verylarge, rapid buildup to forestall the inevitable insurrection. What could have been manageable if even the follow-on 2-3 division equivalents had been deployed could have made all the difference.

I am and will be a supporter that this was the right thing. But this admin has made such a hash out of the aftermath that it may take yers for the military and American public to recover and be willing to take this GWOT to the Islamo-fascists in the way it needs to be done.
 

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I think we will be around 5k-10k deaths by the time the war in iraq ends. Once the governemnt falls apart and the country goes into chaos, its not out of the question of seeing an avearge of 5 troops killed a day. All it will take is the majority of the Shite factions going into the core of the insurgency against the U.S. and it will be total chaos.
 

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Originally posted by: nullzero
I think we will be around 5k-10k deaths by the time the war in iraq ends. Once the governemnt falls apart and the country goes into chaos, its not out of the question of seeing an avearge of 5 troops killed a day. All it will take is the majority of the Shite factions going into the core of the insurgency against the U.S. and it will be total chaos.

Bit too low an estimate. Looks like there are at least 10 soldiers every other, if not every day, ever since the surge. It use to take a while to reach those 1000 milestones. Now it's like it turns, and a few day later they're already 1/3 to the next one.
 

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According to the link, the deaths are unrelated to the urban combat a surge might be expected to produce. And instead the deaths are attributed to roadside bombs and a helicopter crash.
But exactly how the deaths were distributed is less clear. During the first four years US troop deaths averaged out at 800/yr. Now that the surge is started, it looks to be up at least 50%.

In terms of the Iraqi civilian death toll, the question is it up, down, or unchanged? Civilian statistic are poorly gathered and I somewhat doubt anyone has accurate numbers.
 

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Ah Tommy,

The purple fingers were then---and this is now---and to survive meanwhile---everyone in Iraq must depend on the fickle finger of fate. And for some---they just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time---and suddenly--the death toll increments up one more notch.---and as a formerly living human being---you get promoted to a statistic.--unless you are Iraqi---and then you may not even be counted.
 

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Originally posted by: Shivetya

I'm waiting for Iran to take the bait and teach the Navy a lesson for sailing a carrier too close to them....

that will wake people up

I wouldn't be too worried about that. Iran's not that stupid. While they could certainly sink a carrier with a surprise attack (or at least severely damage it), they would get totally owned by all of our other assets in and around the region.

I'll say it now, Iran will never strike first openly with their military. They realize to do so is suicide.
 

Lemon law

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I still say the worry for everyone is that some small terrorist cell will get lucky and manage to damage US naval assets. And then some idiot will blame Iran and then the war will be on.
Here we are now---with over a century gone by---and we still don't know if the Maine blew up in Havana Harbor due to a simple accident or by Spanish sponsored sabotage.
 

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Iran will not strike the U.S first.
U.S has a 500 billion + yearly budget for military.

The consequences far outweigh the gains.