10-speed Mustang quick review

[Viper GTS]

Ended up with the 6-speed manual Ecoboost. 32 MPG highway! Maybe. Haha.

I know, that's my point - Same 2.3 Ecoboost motor in the RS. 15 MPG.

Viper GTS

 

[Kaido]

I know, that's my point - Same 2.3 Ecoboost motor in the RS. 15 MPG.

Viper GTS

Oooh I gotcha - I didn't know you had the Focus RS!! How are you liking it so far?

 

[Viper GTS]

It's a great daily driver. Definitely not ridiculous enough to be a dedicated fun car but it doesn't usually feel slow and you can drive like an absolute idiot in basically any weather without issue.

The difficult thing is unlike the Viper which was great fun at any speed the RS is really at its best way over the speed limit. I'm far more likely to end up with a ticket in it than I ever was in the Viper just due to the 'oh shit I'm doing 90 again' moments.

Viper GTS

 

[Herr Kutz]

Here is how other ecoboost fuelly members are doing on their mileage. If I had to hazard a guess, I would say most are automatic transmission. Note, the 10-speed auto did not debut until 2018 MY.

2018 - 24.04mpg http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/mustang/2018?engineconfig_id=34&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=
Based on data from 4 vehicles, 23 fuel-ups and 6,380 miles of driving, the 2018 Ford Mustang gets a combined Avg MPG of 24.04 with a 1.27 MPG margin of error.
2017 - 22.70mpg http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/mustang/2017?engineconfig_id=34&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=
Based on data from 28 vehicles, 708 fuel-ups and 192,371 miles of driving, the 2017 Ford Mustang gets a combined Avg MPG of 22.70 with a 0.34 MPG margin of error.
2016 - 24.79mpg http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/mustang/2016?engineconfig_id=34&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=
Based on data from 47 vehicles, 2,043 fuel-ups and 600,171 miles of driving, the 2016 Ford Mustang gets a combined Avg MPG of 24.79 with a 0.26 MPG margin of error.

 

[ultimatebob]

I found that the shift pattern on the new Mustang's 10 speed auto is a lot more responsive and less jerky if you put in in "drag mode". Sounds weird, but it works.

But, yeah, it's gets pretty annoying in Sport mode. Almost feels like it jumped into the wrong gear by accident at times.

 

[Aikouka]

that same lurching effect that my 9-speed Jeep Renegade has, except the lurches happened really fast & mostly only mid-speed, not starting out from a dead stop or while cruising on the highway

Is that common on these cars? My Ford Fusion never did it, but my Ford Taurus does that. I had an Altima before that, but its CVT never did it. (I actually really liked the CVT in that car.)

 

[Kaido]

Is that common on these cars? My Ford Fusion never did it, but my Ford Taurus does that. I had an Altima before that, but its CVT never did it. (I actually really liked the CVT in that car.)

Generally, 5 & 6-speed automatics are butter-smooth these days. I can't tell my brother's CVT Versa apart from my parent's 5-speed Versa, unless I turn off the radio & listen to the shifting (Nissan's CVT revs high when you start from a dead stop, but the engines are so quiet these days...). I like Subaru's CVT the best, followed by Nissan, and I don't like Honda's CVT at all. I've driven 8-speed automatic (FCA's was laggy in the Charger...engine had plenty of power, but it took a good 2 seconds to drop gears on the highway to get going, which was annoying - although Kia's 8-speed in the Stinger was excellent), 9-speed automatic (my Renegade & the various Jeep rentals I had from the dealer's shop just about monthly throughout the last couple of years), and 10-speed automatic (Ford's version, on the 470 HP V8 Mustang). The 10-speed was smoother, but just felt like a tractor to me...the 6-speed manual was a zillion times better, like no contest. The only one I haven't tried is the dual-clutch/DSG stuff (VW has a 7-speed DSG & Kia has a 7-speed DCT on their turbo Soul). I'd like to drive them, just to see, but honestly, I see my next car being a Model Y, and then keeping that for a long time. So hopefully the next one will be a 1-speed EV lol.

 

[Kaido]

I found that the shift pattern on the new Mustang's 10 speed auto is a lot more responsive and less jerky if you put in in "drag mode". Sounds weird, but it works.

But, yeah, it's gets pretty annoying in Sport mode. Almost feels like it jumped into the wrong gear by accident at times.

Yeah. Modern technology is nice on the stick-shift tho...launch control, hill-stop assist, etc. The clutch is so light that I don't mind being stuck in traffic at all, either. So far, it's been the most wonderful car I've ever had the pleasure of owning!

 

[Herr Kutz]

Generally, 5 & 6-speed automatics are butter-smooth these days. I can't tell my brother's CVT Versa apart from my parent's 5-speed Versa, unless I turn off the radio & listen to the shifting (Nissan's CVT revs high when you start from a dead stop, but the engines are so quiet these days...). I like Subaru's CVT the best, followed by Nissan, and I don't like Honda's CVT at all. I've driven 8-speed automatic (FCA's was laggy in the Charger...engine had plenty of power, but it took a good 2 seconds to drop gears on the highway to get going, which was annoying - although Kia's 8-speed in the Stinger was excellent), 9-speed automatic (my Renegade & the various Jeep rentals I had from the dealer's shop just about monthly throughout the last couple of years), and 10-speed automatic (Ford's version, on the 470 HP V8 Mustang). The 10-speed was smoother, but just felt like a tractor to me...the 6-speed manual was a zillion times better, like no contest. The only one I haven't tried is the dual-clutch/DSG stuff (VW has a 7-speed DSG & Kia has a 7-speed DCT on their turbo Soul). I'd like to drive them, just to see, but honestly, I see my next car being a Model Y, and then keeping that for a long time. So hopefully the next one will be a 1-speed EV lol.

I’ve driven a few of the Hyundai/Kia DCTs (Ioniq, niro, Tucson, sonata), but their jankeyness off the line and when parking has kept me away. I park in tight areas on the street every day so I can’t take the risk of buying a vehicle that lurches around when trying to squeeze my way in. Otherwise I really like the ioniq. It’s all digital dash on the SEL and up is SLICK!

 

[Aikouka]

Generally, 5 & 6-speed automatics are butter-smooth these days.

But were they butter smooth in 2013? 😛

(Nissan's CVT revs high when you start from a dead stop, but the engines are so quiet these days...).

At least based upon my experience with my old 2007 Altima, the car wouldn't lock in the torque converter until around 25-28 MPH. (It has been a while, so I forget the exact number.) Due to that, the car would still have that sloshy, automatic feel until the torque converter locked in, which made things feel far more mechanical due to the car never having to unlock for shifting purposes. (Until it slows down.)

So hopefully the next one will be a 1-speed EV lol.

I'd actually be interested in seeing if we'll ever get more than a single-geared electric motor. One of the complaints that I commonly see about Tesla vehicles from performance enthusiasts is that they start teetering out around 90-100 MPH, and that's understandable given that they've got a single gear ratio. My assumption is that we're not too likely to see any multi-gear setups due to it adding a lot of mechanical complexity, and especially since the car already does well enough in 0-100, they probably don't see much of a point to push beyond that unless it's with a hypercar like the Roadster.

 

[Kaido]

But were they butter smooth in 2013? 😛

At least the Versa, yup! 😀

At least based upon my experience with my old 2007 Altima, the car wouldn't lock in the torque converter until around 25-28 MPH. (It has been a while, so I forget the exact number.) Due to that, the car would still have that sloshy, automatic feel until the torque converter locked in, which made things feel far more mechanical due to the car never having to unlock for shifting purposes. (Until it slows down.)

I looked at an Altima a few years ago...sooooo much body roll, haha

I'd actually be interested in seeing if we'll ever get more than a single-geared electric motor. One of the complaints that I commonly see about Tesla vehicles from performance enthusiasts is that they start teetering out around 90-100 MPH, and that's understandable given that they've got a single gear ratio. My assumption is that we're not too likely to see any multi-gear setups due to it adding a lot of mechanical complexity, and especially since the car already does well enough in 0-100, they probably don't see much of a point to push beyond that unless it's with a hypercar like the Roadster.

Some people on the EV conversion website have done it with stick-shift cars...interesting approach & dynamics for sure.