10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage is Wrong

[zsdersw]

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

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I have considered that this post was intended as sarcasm. If so, it's too open ended, and it can only bring in reruns of the same bigotry that has been polluting the forums for months.

Harvey
Senior AnandTech Moderator/Administrator

 

[Infohawk]

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

3) Bestiality is a stretch but polygamy is not. Why deny consenting adults the right to be polygamous and legally binding relationships?

10) We haven't really adapted to cars or longer life spans, but that's not really relevant.

 

[zsdersw]

10) We haven't really adapted to cars or longer life spans, but that's not really relevant.

Most of us are very dependent on our cars. If that's not a form of adaptation, I'm not sure what is.

 

[ZzZGuy]

3) Bestiality is a stretch but polygamy is not. Why deny consenting adults the right to be polygamous and legally binding relationships?

10) We haven't really adapted to cars or longer life spans, but that's not really relevant.

Who's talking about marrying more then one person? The gay right groups sure aren't.

 

[PokerGuy]

You could just re-title your post : 10 straw men.

 

[ZzZGuy]

You could just re-title your post : 10 straw men.

Like how straight parents children will always be straight and gay parents children will always be gay?

 

[PokerGuy]

Just more idiotic drivel, setting up straw men and knocking them down.

 

[Infohawk]

Who's talking about marrying more then one person? The gay right groups sure aren't.

That's not the point. The 10 points wanted to make fun of the arguments people use against them. I'm just pointing out that #3 is actually decent when you consider polygamy.

Note that I'm not opposed to civil unions and indifferent to the term "gay marriage."

 

[surfsatwerk]

You could just re-title your post : 10 straw men.

Let gay men marry and then it will be the straw men wanting to marry each other too.

 

[hal2kilo]

You could just re-title your post : 10 straw men.

Obviously, you don't know the difference between a strawman and sarcasm lol.

 

[Homerboy]

Let gay men marry and then it will be the straw men wanting to marry each other too.

"Cats and dogs living together! Mass hysteria!!!" - Dr. Peter Venkman

 

[daishi5]

Who's talking about marrying more then one person? The gay right groups sure aren't.

The opponents raise it as a slippery slope/strawman argument. But some of us who used to be on the opposition side believe that the arguments for gay marriage are just as strong in favor of polygamy.

Those of us who do believe that polygamy should be realized really don't care that much. But, if Marriage is a fundamental right, and a person should have the right to marry whomever they want (that is able to enter the contract legally).

I don't care that much about it because I don't know anyone who actually wants a polygamous marriage. But, I have already found myself realizing that I was in favor of denying a fundamental right to a group of people I didn't understand and didn't know very well, and I don't want to do it again, even if they are a very tiny minority.

Take a step back and think about it a minute, it is a fundamental right, everyone capable of enjoying the right should have access to it. Just because they are different than me does not mean I should deny it to them.

 

[ZzZGuy]

Just more idiotic drivel, setting up straw men and knocking them down.

The thing is, these ARE the arguments I keep seeing against gay marriage. OP just points out how stupid they are.

When you take away the lies, all they got left is "Ewwwwwwwwww" and attempts to shove their religion down other peoples throats.

That's not the point. The 10 points wanted to make fun of the arguments people use against them. I'm just pointing out that #3 is actually decent when you consider polygamy.

Note that I'm not opposed to civil unions and indifferent to the term "gay marriage."

Polygamy is not marriage, it is polygamy. There is no discussion or precedent with gay marriage to allow people to have multiple partners. If there is please show me.

The "change" to marriage this is being discussed is to remove religious morals being applied to those who do not follow these religions, not "hey, lets marry any damn thing we want!". Before you say "But that counts too!", there is no discussion to redefine how marriage in your (or my) culture works.

Here in Canada we have gay marriage, so where is the legalized polygamy or the campaigns to legalize it? On top of that I am against polygamy because of the abuses that have occurred when it has been practiced inside my country (small closed communities that border on being a cult). It is too heavily male dominated with a fixation on multiple wifes but not the other way around, but then again I haven't seen or heard of any debated on this subject to get a idea of what the "other side" thinks.

 

[BoberFett]

Who's talking about marrying more then one person? The gay right groups sure aren't.

My wife and I have talked about it. If we ever met someone we clicked with the way the two of us already do, it'd be a consideration.

And homosexuals aren't talking about it because gays are bigoted against people in polyamorous relationships just as a large number of heterosexuals are against homosexuals. They want their rights, but those sickos and their multiple partners shouldn't be allowed the same rights.

The whole debate is truly ridiculous. Everyone needs to stay the hell out of everyone else's business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npB4XfBTICA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09_49KL6pgM

 

[polarmystery]

I don't think there is a big enough facepalm picture for this thread...

 

[cubby1223]

I thought this forum used to have a rule there must be a link to a news item, not just someone's troll posts?

 

[BoberFett]

Polygamy is not marriage, it is polygamy. There is no discussion or precedent with gay marriage to allow people to have multiple partners. If there is please show me.

The "change" to marriage this is being discussed is to remove religious morals being applied to those who do not follow these religions, not "hey, lets marry any damn thing we want!". Before you say "But that counts too!", there is no discussion to redefine how marriage in your (or my) culture works.

Here in Canada we have gay marriage, so where is the legalized polygamy or the campaigns to legalize it? On top of that I am against polygamy because of the abuses that have occurred when it has been practiced inside my country (small closed communities that border on being a cult). It is too heavily male dominated with a fixation on multiple wifes but no the other way around, but then again I haven't seen or heard of any debated on this subject to get a idea of what the "other side" thinks.

Do you even realize how much you sound just like the homophobes when you talk about polygamy? "But polygamists are abusive and rape children!" Yeah, and homophobes claim that gays fuck farm animals. That doesn't make it true.

 

[Kadarin]

Just more idiotic drivel, setting up straw men and knocking them down.

The point was apparently so far over your head that you couldn't see it.

 

[ZzZGuy]

Do you even realize how much you sound just like the homophobes when you talk about polygamy? "But polygamists are abusive and rape children!" Yeah, and homophobes claim that gays fuck farm animals. That doesn't make it true.

Raping children is not funny, turning woman into slaves is not funny. It is a fact that such cases have occurred in these "closed communities" practicing polygamy. Look it up.

Does it always happen? No.

But the whole concept of polygamy is so heavily male dominated with the fixation on multiple wives that I would never agree with it even if there were no cases of abuse (mental, physical and sexual) against woman and children. It simply lends itself to abuses too easily and that is why I am against it. -edit- To be more clear, I mean only men having multiple wives which i consider a bad thing for society. Got a little off track.

Perhaps in the future things will change and this will no longer be the case, but today it is.

-edit- There also seems to be some confusion about rights. No one in the USA (or Canada) can have multiple partners and have it recognized legally as marriage for all involved. No one has it so it's not a case of one group having it while denying it to another.

 

[Mursilis]

Raping children is not funny, turning woman into slaves is not funny. It is a fact that such cases have occurred in these "closed communities" practicing polygamy. Look it up.

Does it always happen? No.

But the whole concept of polygamy is so heavily male dominated with the fixation on multiple wives that I would never agree with it even if there were no cases of abuse (mental, physical and sexual) against woman and children. It simply lends itself to abuses too easily and that is why I am against it.

Perhaps in the future things will change and this will no longer be the case, but today it is.

So in other words, you're willing to prohibit consenting adults from doing what they wish to do of their own free will, just because you don't like it? And yet you wonder why people want to prohibit gays from marrying?

 

[BoberFett]

Raping children is not funny, turning woman into slaves is not funny. It is a fact that such cases have occurred in these "closed communities" practicing polygamy. Look it up.

Does it always happen? No.

But the whole concept of polygamy is so heavily male dominated with the fixation on multiple wives that I would never agree with it even if there were no cases of abuse (mental, physical and sexual) against woman and children. It simply lends itself to abuses too easily and that is why I am against it.

Perhaps in the future things will change and this will no longer be the case, but today it is.

Is that related to the polygamy or the fact that they're essentially cult members? Did it ever occur to you that maybe positive examples of polygamy are very few because *gasp* polygamy is not legal? When you drive a behavior underground, expect to see the worst of it remain.

The fact remains that you're a bigot and sound exactly like a homophobe.

 

[ZzZGuy]

So in other words, you're willing to prohibit consenting adults from doing what they wish to do of their own free will, just because you don't like it? And yet you wonder why people want to prohibit gays from marrying?

Read what I typed. R.e.a.d.

Btw, quoted post was edited.

 

[zsdersw]

For the record, I have no problem with affording the legal, financial, and medical benefits of marriage to polygamists.

 

[zsdersw]

I thought this forum used to have a rule there must be a link to a news item, not just someone's troll posts?

As I understand it, the rule is that you cannot just post a link to a news story; that you have to add some personal commentary.. not that a news story link is required.

 

[ZzZGuy]

Is that related to the polygamy or the fact that they're essentially cult members? Did it ever occur to you that maybe positive examples of polygamy are very few because *gasp* polygamy is not legal? When you drive a behavior underground, expect to see the worst of it remain.

The fact remains that you're a bigot and sound exactly like a homophobe.

You know what, it doesn't matter.

I had admitted that I have not debated this issue with those in favor so my understanding might be lacking. And guess what, there is still no debate in my country or the USA on legalizing polygamy.

My position on gay marriage wasn't always the same, but exposing myself to debates and discussing it increased my understanding of the issue.

This thread is on gay marriage, not polygamy and this is not the issue at hand. Polygamy isn't going to be legalized shortly after gay marriage is in the USA. If it is explain how so, the justification of it being right or not isn't required in this thread.

So if you want Polygamy, make a new thread and we can talk there.