10 reasons to buy a tablet, and 5 to not buy a tablet

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Puddle Jumper

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http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/p3-1000e/opengl.shtml

Apparently a 1ghz Pentium 3 and a GeForce3 gpu have no problem running Quake 3 at 90fps at 1280x1024. Since that hardware is from 2001 it further reinforces the performance difference between PC's and tablets. Based on that i'd say the i3 would have no problem running multiple instances of Quake 3 like you mentioned before at 1024x600.

When did I say the playbook was anything other than Cortex A9?

BC2 won't be ported because you need 1) DirectX 2) a much more powerful cpu than ARM currently offers. I was bottle necked playing that game on a 2.8ghz Core 2 Duo which once again is in a whole different league compared to Cortex A9.
 
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HeXen

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Tablets are for comfy use, its like using a book. you can lay back, sidways..etc where the laptop forces you to hold it and use it in a certain body position.
No point in making comparisons, either you want light, silent, thin, instant on device with 10 hrs for casual use or you want heavier power with 3 hrs of use...thank god for options in life.

in regards to #1. i've been reading alot of PDF's on the ipad and the text looks very vivid to me.
I can open comics, mags everything and turn them into ibooks where the page flips by using a program called calibre to convert them.

doesnt look as vivid and clear in this pic, but you get the idea. in PDF mode you can zoom..etc and the text looks as clear as the original magazine did. i love old magazines.

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Spicedaddy

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A "4 year old laptop" is something like a Core 2 Duo (Merom) with Geforce 8600M graphics. Tablets coming out in the near future are not faster than that.
 

HeXen

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A "4 year old laptop" is something like a Core 2 Duo (Merom) with Geforce 8600M graphics. Tablets coming out in the near future are not faster than that.

and why would they be? to consume music,movies, internet,e books, photos,casual games..etc. you don't need more. If otherwise they would be so freaking heavy, hot and noisy it would defeat the entire purpose.

if i was gonna photoshop and play Crysis i'm gonna do it on my desktop where the 580gtx is and get it done right. not on some crappy laptop where i have to use medium/low graphics on a non gaming kb/mouse pad and 17" screeno_O much less want to do so on a tablet.

I don't understand the logic of comparing tablets to laptops. If you already have a laptop and don't need further portability or battery life, then you wont be in the market. but 10 hrs battery life for video and web surfing alone means alot to some people.
 

Spicedaddy

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and why would they be? to consume music,movies, internet,e books, photos,casual games..etc. you don't need more. If otherwise they would be so freaking heavy, hot and noisy it would defeat the entire purpose.

if i was gonna photoshop and play Crysis i'm gonna do it on my desktop where the 580gtx is and get it done right. not on some crappy laptop where i have to use medium/low graphics on a non gaming kb/mouse pad and 17" screeno_O much less want to do so on a tablet.

I don't understand the logic of comparing tablets to laptops. If you already have a laptop and don't need further portability or battery life, then you wont be in the market. but 10 hrs battery life for video and web surfing alone means alot to some people.

I was just responding to someone else in this thread comparing a BB PlayBook to a Core i3 laptop... :)
 

Bryf50

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and why would they be? to consume music,movies, internet,e books, photos,casual games..etc. you don't need more. If otherwise they would be so freaking heavy, hot and noisy it would defeat the entire purpose.

if i was gonna photoshop and play Crysis i'm gonna do it on my desktop where the 580gtx is and get it done right. not on some crappy laptop where i have to use medium/low graphics on a non gaming kb/mouse pad and 17" screeno_O much less want to do so on a tablet.

I don't understand the logic of comparing tablets to laptops. If you already have a laptop and don't need further portability or battery life, then you wont be in the market. but 10 hrs battery life for video and web surfing alone means alot to some people.
I also don't understand the logic of comparing tablet hardware to laptop hardware. But the article did and stated many things that are flat out false.

tablets will handle more content than a two-year-old laptop
My 3 yr old laptop can play any video or music file in practically any format, container or codec ever made up to 1080p.

and there are more modern apps and games.
Suggesting that any of the mobile os's have more apps and games than windows is a joke.
 

OBLAMA2009

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they need to do more to differentiate tablet capabilities from smartphone capabilities to make tablets appealing. tablets should have significantly faster chips (so you can say web browse with 30 pages open like on your computer), larger screens (1024x768 minimum) and usb ports for say keyboards and mice so they can do more computer like production tasks than smartphones when necessary. why should i get samsung galaxy tab if i have droid x at this point, the only difference is the screen size
 
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mammador

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http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/p3-1000e/opengl.shtml

Apparently a 1ghz Pentium 3 and a GeForce3 gpu have no problem running Quake 3 at 90fps at 1280x1024. Since that hardware is from 2001 it further reinforces the performance difference between PC's and tablets. Based on that i'd say the i3 would have no problem running multiple instances of Quake 3 like you mentioned before at 1024x600.

When did I say the playbook was anything other than Cortex A9?

BC2 won't be ported because you need 1) DirectX 2) a much more powerful cpu than ARM currently offers. I was bottle necked playing that game on a 2.8ghz Core 2 Duo which once again is in a whole different league compared to Cortex A9.

The basic specs of the average tablet (iPad, Galaxy Tab, Playbook, etc.) are similar to a good netbook. Nobody needs an overly powerful computer to web surf, social network, so obviously these are not very processor intensive apps. And with the fact that tablets often have 3G mobile telephony capability, an iPad is essentially an oversized iPhone. Tablets just fulfil a non-existent market need. I can understand if Apple limited the amount of apps for the iPhone and had the bulk of apps for the iPad, but even still I think it's waste of money.
 

HeXen

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they need to do more to differentiate tablet capabilities from smartphone capabilities to make tablets appealing. tablets should have significantly faster chips (so you can say web browse with 30 pages open like on your computer), larger screens (1024x768 minimum) and usb ports for say keyboards and mice so they can do more computer like production tasks than smartphones when necessary. why should i get samsung galaxy tab if i have droid x at this point, the only difference is the screen size

they have docks and cases with built in keyboards and i think any bluetooth mice works. some cases will even prop up the tablet with the kb attached to the case itself.
However i have no idea why someone would really want to do production tasks on a tablet, thats what desktops are for.
Seems some are trying to converge market needs into one when its impossible to be intended for that. maybe in the future of course. At one time, laptops were mostly worthless and were for very light duty.

anyone seen the icade? pretty neat but dunno how many arcade type games there are that this would be for. funny that it started off as an april fools joke and demand was so high they started selling them. lol http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31747_7-20027933-243.html

an iPad is essentially an oversized iPhone. Tablets just fulfil a non-existent market need. I can understand if Apple limited the amount of apps for the iPhone and had the bulk of apps for the iPad, but even still I think it's waste of money.

the market obviously exists and is in high demand. tons of tablets comming out this year and already tons of ipads and galaxy's sold.
like i mentioned earlier, its about the battery life and book size mostly and you can't really browse the web nearly the same on a smartphone or ipod touch, size of screen makes the cake but i wouldnt want to do so on anything smaller than the ipad, thats for sure. would be too much zooming in and out all the time i would think
 

HeXen

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The iPad actually fit into my needs that I did not even know I needed. Typing this on it right now standing by the stove checking on my pizza. I could not hold my laptop and do this. That's not bollocks, that's convenience without interruption.
 

sjwaste

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The iPad actually fit into my needs that I did not even know I needed. Typing this on it right now standing by the stove checking on my pizza. I could not hold my laptop and do this. That's not bollocks, that's convenience without interruption.

One might argue you don't need to be posting from your kitchen while checking on your pizza :)
 

MagickMan

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lol. My $350 4 year old laptop is more powerful than an iPad, compared to a new $500 Core i3 laptop that statement couldn't be more wrong.

I have to say that you're right. You can get a Dell 15" refurb for <$300, and it's 10x more powerful than any tablet. But, you lose so much of the "this is so damned cool" factor.
 

DivideBYZero

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I have to say that you're right. You can get a Dell 15" refurb for <$300, and it's 10x more powerful than any tablet. But, you lose so much of the "this is so damned cool" factor.
Yeah, that's great because you get the 'lugging a 6lb lump of crap with 2 hour battery life' factor, too. That's a pleasure you can't measure. :awe:
 

mammador

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Just because they don't fit any of your needs doesn't mean they're "bollocks".

I'm just stating my opinion. I can still think less of them, despite other people using them as they wish. If a person hates steak, it doesn't mean steak is categorically bad.
 

MagickMan

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Yeah, that's great because you get the 'lugging a 6lb lump of crap with 2 hour battery life' factor, too. That's a pleasure you can't measure. :awe:

4.5lbs, actually. But you are right, it is bulky as hell. I didn't say that it's nearly as portable, I just said that there is a tremendous performance hit. When the Tegra 2 tabs come out in force there will be a lot more to crow about.