10+ dead during shooting at the paper that ran Muhammad cartoon

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FerrelGeek

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You do realize that a bunch of fundie catholics are going to hunt you down and kill you now, right? If they don't stop you, the next thing you'll do is show a pic of a crucifix in a jar of your own peepee.

Oh

Wait

Someone did that already and didn't die because of it. Guess you'll be ok then.
 

Homerboy

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Thanks for the link. The backlash could be immense for those Muslims that had nothing to do with these attacks.

It truly is a shame that millions of good, honest people get thrown under the bus due to the perverse actions of a minority subset of their group.

Islam in and of itself is not a religion of hate and violence -- plain and simple. Sadly, anything can be distorted and bastardize all the way to cold blooded murder.
 

Atreus21

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That's what I thought. Great debating skills displayed in your OP to me. Typical hypocrite. The post you quoted was just a quote from someone else regarding a bunch of incidences that refuted Christian fundie violence is just as bad . Again, you can't see how full of shit you are. 20K+ posts doesn't give you a free pass. But it certainly makes you a grandiose asshole.

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IndyColtsFan

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That's what I thought. Great debating skills displayed in your OP to me.

As I explained (I'll type REALLY slowly here), anyone who throws around "bigot" so frequently is deserving of nothing but ridicule -- which is EXACTLY what you got from me (and from the looks of it, many others).

"OMG, you're a bigot!"
"Ah, it is just because you hate BROWN PEOPLE" (you didn't say this, another poster said something similar).

When I see arguments like that, I just point and laugh because 9 times out of 10, it is nothing but pure idiocy.

Typical hypocrite. The post you quoted was just a bunch of incidences that refuted his post. Didn't call him a bigot then. Again, you can't see how full of shit you are. 20K+ posts doesn't give you a free pass.
I believe you replied to Atreus21. He replied here. Your awesome response was "How much further can you stick your head up your ass? Face it, you are a bigot." while ignoring his questions.

But it certainly makes you a grandiose asshole.
Why thank you, that's a compliment, especially coming from someone like you.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Best to walk...I don't think he's actually capable of rational discussion....so much hatred in his posts.

He might be Muslim and is hurt by the perception this incident has caused. I get that, but it doesn't give him carte blanche to call anyone who disagrees a bigot and not expect some sort of response.

Besides, the day is ending and I'm in the mood to troll. :awe:

True enough. Remember the proverb about not arguing with a fool, my friends.

Lulz.
 
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Hugo Drax

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The French are fucked, I think at this point they will have to step up and correct the issues before it is too late, or let themselves eventually become subjugated to Islam in the next 50 years.

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f1sherman

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They surrendered.

Is it too early for French surrender jokes?

Why is this French surrender even an American joke?

If we keep in mind that 70% of all German losses have been sustained on Eastern front, (at the very least, more likely 80%; yes all other fronts combined were child's play and skirmishes in comparison)

and if we keep in mind that by the time that Overlord had been launched, the outcome of war in Europe had been decided by more than a year. Decided by fucking Stalin and his Russians!

So if anyones French surrender should be a Russian joke. And yet it's always told by their old ally. It's really a poor taste.
 

Hugo Drax

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Why is this French surrender even an American joke?

If we keep in mind that 70% of all German losses have been sustained on Eastern front, (at the very least, more likely 80%; yes all other fronts combined were child's play and skirmishes in comparison)

and if we keep in mind that by the time that Overlord had been launched, the outcome of war in Europe had been decided by more than a year. Decided by fucking Stalin and his Russians!

So if anyones French surrender should be a Russian joke. And yet it's always told by their old ally. It's really a poor taste.

Operation Barbarossa, That was an epic fail decision on Hitler.
 

realibrad

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It truly is a shame that millions of good, honest people get thrown under the bus due to the perverse actions of a minority subset of their group.

Islam in and of itself is not a religion of hate and violence -- plain and simple. Sadly, anything can be distorted and bastardize all the way to cold blooded murder.

I think plain and simple is wrong. Its not simple when you read the religious texts. Christianity for a long time was not a peaceful religion either, until huge chunks of its followers stopped following the texts. Islam is far more violent than other popular religions at the moment. Part of the violence is justified by their holy books. When you poll the people, you get some idea of how they view violence.

The 20 to 30 thousand fighters ISIS has shows that its not a small idea in Islam. So I would say that many Muslims are fine, peaceful people, but I would not say they are as typically peaceful as other religious people.

Also, I'm not a christian advocate either. I believe all religions are made up constructs of people.
 

peonyu

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Religion of peace strikes again /YAWN, not surprised at all !!!!!

And where is our resident closet-Muslim at [Earl] ??? The religion of peace with its looney maniac "prophet Mohammad-the-pedophile" needs his defender to defend him !
 

Hugo Drax

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What will be interesting if this will become the tippingpoint like the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand which sparked WW I.

Either the French will fight and stand up and fight back or they retreat and become the equivalent of Vichy France.

This is going to be interesting in regards to how the French will deal with this problem.
 

peonyu

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The French are fucked, I think at this point they will have to step up and correct the issues before it is too late, or let themselves eventually become subjugated to Islam in the next 50 years.

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That country is already close to 10% Muslim and that % is growing every year since their birth rate is so high [not surprising since women are relegated to being baby factories in Islam, some are not even allowed to leave the house without a man present - SMH] and migration from North Africa is still going on at a massive rate. Its almost as if the leadership of France wants to become majority Muslim.

And I feel especially bad the WW2 vets of France, to see their nation sold down the river to foreigners after they put their lives on the line during WW2 must be hard. Virtually all of the millions of Muslims in Europe today came after WW2 from North Africa, and so far they shown almost zero respect for the native European people.
 

Drako

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Religion of peace strikes again /YAWN, not surprised at all !!!!!

And where is our resident closet-Muslim at [Earl] ??? The religion of peace with its looney maniac "prophet Mohammad-the-pedophile" needs his defender to defend him !

Not to worry, himkahn is here. :|
 

peonyu

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What will be interesting if this will become the tippingpoint like the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand which sparked WW I.

Either the French will fight and stand up and fight back or they retreat and become the equivalent of Vichy France.

This is going to be interesting in regards to how the French will deal with this problem.


The UK has a similar issue, so does most Western European countries. The Nordic countries probably have the highest % of Muslims in Europe nowadays...unfortunately its not OK to talk about immigration in Europe, if someone in Europe disagrees with the immigration policy, in most countries you can be thrown in jail for voicing that opinion since it can construed as trying to "incite hatred", so the population of Europe is largely muzzled and has no voice in the matter.
 

bshole

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That country is already close to 10% Muslim and that % is growing every year since their birth rate is so high [not surprising since women are relegated to being baby factories in Islam, some are not even allowed to leave the house without a man present - SMH] and migration from North Africa is still going on at a massive rate. Its almost as if the leadership of France wants to become majority Muslim.

And I feel especially bad the WW2 vets of France, to see their nation sold down the river to foreigners after they put their lives on the line during WW2 must be hard. Virtually all of the millions of Muslims in Europe today came after WW2 from North Africa, and so far they shown almost zero respect for the native European people.

There is a growing anti-islam sentiment that has spread from the fringes to the mainstream in both Germany and France. I suspect more volatility in Europe's future.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...rties-are-now-on-the-march-across-Europe.html
 

Homerboy

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I think plain and simple is wrong. Its not simple when you read the religious texts. Christianity for a long time was not a peaceful religion either, until huge chunks of its followers stopped following the texts. Islam is far more violent than other popular religions at the moment. Part of the violence is justified by their holy books. When you poll the people, you get some idea of how they view violence.

The 20 to 30 thousand fighters ISIS has shows that its not a small idea in Islam. So I would say that many Muslims are fine, peaceful people, but I would not say they are as typically peaceful as other religious people.

Also, I'm not a christian advocate either. I believe all religions are made up constructs of people.

Estimated 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world.
20-30K in ISIS... lets quintuple to 150K that for all the other radical sects and crazy fucks that distort the teachings

150,000/1,600,000,000 = A REALLY SMALL PERCENTAGE
 

raildogg

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Religion of peace strikes again /YAWN, not surprised at all !!!!!

And where is our resident closet-Muslim at [Earl] ??? The religion of peace with its looney maniac "prophet Mohammad-the-pedophile" needs his defender to defend him !

Yeah, like the West doesn't kill innocent people all over the world. Let's not even talk about the barbarity of the West for the past 1000 years. But most people pick and choose what sort of group to go after. Some go after Islamists, others go after Communists, etc. But rarely does anyone go after every sort of violent and divisive group. I guess picking favorites is something we humans go.

And ... yawn @ people letting out their prejudices, hatred and frustrations after each attack.

Do you guys let out the same yawns when your Western countries sell billions of armaments to dictators around the world? Of course not. Do you yawn when America kills civilians using their latest drone technology? No.

We pick and choose our team. Some choose the Western team. Some choose the Islamic team. In the end, they play the same sport - violence, hatred, animosity and total hypocrisy.
 

PlanetJosh

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I think I'll lay off watching Fox News for a few days. It looks like they're going to overdo it on saying Muslim groups are not denouncing the attack as much as they should be. That may be true but come on it gets old hearing them say it every few minutes. I watch them and the lib networks about the same. And I've avoided CNN for a few days as well like when they overdo reporting on some particular story.
 

norseamd

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Why is this French surrender even an American joke?

Because Francias has been far less conquered in history than the English?

Honestly all the jokes mean is nothing but self-affecting bread and circuses for the ignorant Americans.
 

f1sherman

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That country is already close to 10% Muslim and that % is growing every year since their birth rate is so high [not surprising since women are relegated to being baby factories in Islam, some are not even allowed to leave the house without a man present - SMH] and migration from North Africa is still going on at a massive rate. Its almost as if the leadership of France wants to become majority Muslim.

I don't have any love for Islam, but lets keep it factual.

It's actually 4.6%.

Also, muslims birth rate (lets call it that) in Western countries follows national averages. Especially when looking at 2nd, 3rd etc generation.
Similarly like every other emigrants, once they settle in, their procreating habits follow host nation.
 

raildogg

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His religion is what told him it was ok to kill. Check yourself.

Please. People only pick and choose what part of a religion suits their own agenda. So in reality, people are following their own agendas and their own conditioning. True religion has nothing to do with this whatsoever.

The people of this world follow their own desires and are totally conditioned by other conditioned people. Blind leading the blind. No religion involved. Only garbs, masks, temples and churches - none of which have any meaning whatsoever. A building and a robe does not make anything religious. It's superficial propaganda.

If the people of this world were even 1% religious, the world would be a much better place.
 

moonbogg

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You do realize that a bunch of fundie catholics are going to hunt you down and kill you now, right? If they don't stop you, the next thing you'll do is show a pic of a crucifix in a jar of your own peepee.

Oh

Wait

Someone did that already and didn't die because of it. Guess you'll be ok then.

The jesus people, they don't have the AK's.
 

peonyu

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Yeah, like the West doesn't kill innocent people all over the world. Let's not even talk about the barbarity of the West for the past 1000 years. But most people pick and choose what sort of group to go after. Some go after Islamists, others go after Communists, etc. But rarely does anyone go after every sort of violent and divisive group. I guess picking favorites is something we humans go.

And ... yawn @ people letting out their prejudices, hatred and frustrations after each attack.

Do you guys let out the same yawns when your Western countries sell billions of armaments to dictators around the world? Of course not. Do you yawn when America kills civilians using their latest drone technology? No.

We pick and choose our team. Some choose the Western team. Some choose the Islamic team. In the end, they play the same sport - violence, hatred, animosity and total hypocrisy.


At least the West has had progress. And Muslims can move over here and its ok, nobody harasses them. They can even wear a full-out Burka or build a Mosque and its ok. But heaven forbid if its the other way around, no it doesnt work that way. No churches can be built in Saudi Arabia at all, no Non-Muslims are allowed in Mecca. Western women must dress like Muslim women when in the Middle East. Times change, Islam unfortunately has not. and you know what ? Thats fine. But keep your Bullshit in your own country, if you want to move to France or Germany or even the USA - then leave your bullshit back home [like not being allowed to critisize Muhammad, keep that back in the desert where it belongs and dont force it on us].


Islam still is a tribal desert religion that uses the sword [or in this case - AK47s] to get what it wants. And in this case - Islam likely will get what it wants, people will be afraid to critisize the pedophile-prophet-Mohammad now. Definitely that will be the case in France atleast - "I dont want to end up like Charlie Hebdo".

Religion of peace my ass.
 
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