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10,000 scientists protest GOP censoring and interference

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I hope this hits mainstream media, because this bullsh!t needs to stop now. Global warming consorship, editing NASA websites that deal with big bang or obstructing FDA approval due to religous/moral reasons... disgusting.
 
This just in:

In response to the 10,000-signature statement, Bush reported that the Administration has located a 42-year-old day laborer in Cutbank, Montana who is unfamiliar with the word "climate." "REAL Americans." Bush emphasized, "know that 'climatologist' is just a four-letter word."
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
as if BBC is a non bias source...BBC credibility hasd been lacking of late...sad
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How can you be biased when reporting on the actions of a group such as this, so are you saying that the American Union of Concerned Scientists is fake?

I actually read the article, and it's short and mostly quotes from representatives of the organization.
 
Imagine Bush as president during the development of the atomic bomb - the world would certainly be a different place today. For better or worse, I won't say.
 
Originally posted by: halik
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I hope this hits mainstream media, because this bullsh!t needs to stop now. Global warming consorship, editing NASA websites that deal with big bang or obstructing FDA approval due to religous/morla reasons... disgusting.
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The politicization of science under this administration has just been terrible. One can only hope that the public recognizes the silliness of all this, but I am quite skeptical.
 
Science is all magic to Bush and "real americans". People who think that just because a scientific theory doesn't answer every question means that theory has no basis. People that think the simple answer of "god did it" is science. It frustrates me! People can believe in God or whatever they want. But don't interfere with progress. If people of a religious nature always won out over science, the earth would still be a flat plane with all the universe spinning around it.
 
GOP is ideology, not fact driven. So they aren't particularly interested in science that contradicts their ideology.
 
Originally posted by: shira
This just in:

In response to the 10,000-signature statement, Bush reported that the Administration has located a 42-year-old day laborer in Cutbank, Montana who is unfamiliar with the word "climate." "REAL Americans." Bush emphasized, "know that 'climatologist' is just a four-letter word."
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You don't have to look at Montana for your real americans and their truthiness - just look at the post above yours.

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
as if BBC is a non bias source...BBC credibility hasd been lacking of late...sad
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See, its all the liberal media's imagination...
 
How can one high school, or possibly college graduate say they know more than the combined knowledge of the greatest scientific thinkers in the past 1000 years? What makes someone think their high school science teacher, who most likely got a bachelor's in something other than science, isn't also just lying to them, and feeding them bullsh!t so they will disagree with the science put fourth.

Bottom line, if you want to talk about science, go to college, get a fvcking PhD, do legitimate research, and publish it. Otherwise, you just have no right to be saying anything about science. If you think these scientists are politically motivated, in what fvcking way are you motivated? Certainly not scientifically.

 
Pathetic, JEDIYoda- attacking the messenger, the BBC...

That's it? That's all you've got, other than your Faith in GWB?

The only science that the Bushistas need is the science of spreading propaganda, looting the treasury, and finding new ways to kill people...
 
Just more of the incredible Bush disaster and the mental illness infecting the American people that allowed them to vote for the fool.
 
I think there should be a standard applied to scientific debate. Before anyone will listen to you, you should have to explain some basic scientific concept...say, how an airplane is able to fly. If you can't explain that in a few sentences, you will be politely invited to sit down and shut the hell up. The problem with democracy is that it tends to encourage random idiots to open their traps and spew forth about EVERYTHING, even (or perhaps especially) things they know nothing about.
 
Didn't the whitehouse admit they edit scientific papers for the public good? Something to do with the inquiries about the NASA publications?
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I think there should be a standard applied to scientific debate. Before anyone will listen to you, you should have to explain some basic scientific concept...say, how an airplane is able to fly. If you can't explain that in a few sentences, you will be politely invited to sit down and shut the hell up. The problem with democracy is that it tends to encourage random idiots to open their traps and spew forth about EVERYTHING, even (or perhaps especially) things they know nothing about.
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I dont know that explaining how an airplane flies is really the best price of entry. How about something related to the subject matter. Or just the scientific method might be a good place to start. Im not so sure even well educated people know how an airplane can fly.
 
Interesting quote I heard from Richard Dawkins on videosift, he was quoting the editor of New Scientist

"Science is interesting, and if you dont like it you can f*ck off"
 
Who said it? "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

^^ A lesson Bush & Co. need to desperately learn.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Just more of the incredible Bush disaster and the mental illness infecting the American people that allowed them to vote for the fool.
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What Bush really, really, really wants Americans to understand is that a "dialog" is required - but no action taken (unless the actions just happen to support right-wing causes) - as long as there isn't complete agreement between "both sides." In the wonderfully egalitarian neocon universe, relevant knowledge is woefully overrated and ANYone can be a side.

So regardless what all them scientists believe, if those three Kentucky hillbillies think a 50-degree day in August proves we ain't got no global warming, hey, let's talk about it (but doncha go passin' no laws requiring scrubbers on my smokestacks).
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Who said it? "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

^^ A lesson Bush & Co. need to desperately learn.
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What? That'd be flip-flopping. Anyone who changes their opinion from the age of 12 to the day of death is a wishy washy Liberal!! 😉
 
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