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10,000 or 7,200 rpm...suggestions

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nguyen1025

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sshould i get a western digital 80 gb 7200 rpm hd for 50 dolalrs or go for a 37 gb raptor 10000 rpm hd??? is the 10k really worth it?, will there be a BIG difference?
 
Originally posted by: nguyen1025
sshould i get a western digital 80 gb 7200 rpm hd for 50 dolalrs or go for a 37 gb raptor 10000 rpm hd??? is the 10k really worth it?, will there be a BIG difference?
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if you search around here for the the 36GB you will see they had problems. since you have sata on your m/b, i would go with the 80GB sataII(backward compatible with sata) that hitachi is putting out, from what i hear they are nice and fast drives.
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: nguyen1025
sshould i get a western digital 80 gb 7200 rpm hd for 50 dolalrs or go for a 37 gb raptor 10000 rpm hd??? is the 10k really worth it?, will there be a BIG difference?
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if you search around here for the the 36GB you will see they had problems. since you have sata on your m/b, i would go with the 80GB sataII(backward compatible with sata) that hitachi is putting out, from what i hear they are nice and fast drives.
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Never had problems with any of the 36 GB raptor drives.

The people who hate them are the ones that dont have them.

I my self love the Raptor.

To answer the OPs question, it all depends on your budget.

If your building a system with a limited budget, its usually better to get a faster CPU or GPU.

In your case, since you can get either, i'd take the Raptor.

The 74 GB version is a newer generation and is faster in some cases.
 
Originally posted by: BouZouki
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: nguyen1025
sshould i get a western digital 80 gb 7200 rpm hd for 50 dolalrs or go for a 37 gb raptor 10000 rpm hd??? is the 10k really worth it?, will there be a BIG difference?
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if you search around here for the the 36GB you will see they had problems. since you have sata on your m/b, i would go with the 80GB sataII(backward compatible with sata) that hitachi is putting out, from what i hear they are nice and fast drives.
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Never had problems with any of the 36 GB raptor drives.

The people who hate them are the ones that dont have them.

I my self love the Raptor.

To answer the OPs question, it all depends on your budget.

If your building a system with a limited budget, its usually better to get a faster CPU or GPU.

In your case, since you can get either, i'd take the Raptor.

The 74 GB version is a newer generation and is faster in some cases.
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i was saying there were problems, any search will point that out, and their performance was not that good compared to other drives at the time. it is not like i am jealous as my system drive is scsi and i would take 74GB raptor, but just not a 36GB one.
 
Id probably go with the 80GB. 36GB just isn't enough to do much with these days, especially when you consider that some games will take up 4GB(over 10% of 36GB, but only 5% of 80GB). And remember, harddrives run slower when they are fuller.

RoD
 
I wouldn't get a 36GB Raptor as they arn't as fast as the 74's. Because of this that newer gen 80GB drive probably almost matches the 36 in performance.

I've never heard of "problems" withthe 36's they just arn't as fast as the 74's.
 
Originally posted by: JBT
I wouldn't get a 36GB Raptor as they arn't as fast as the 74's. Because of this that newer gen 80GB drive probably almost matches the 36 in performance.

I've never heard of "problems" withthe 36's they just arn't as fast as the 74's.
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maybe i should't say problems, how about, they didn't run anywhere near what they shoud have.
 
only used a 74GB raptor thus far,
no problems as yet.
I won't say totally no until I have used the drive for quite a while.
Btw,

I notice a difference jumping from 2 MB 7,200 to 8MB with 10,000 RPM
don't know if the cache made the difference for me more then the RPM.
But these drives are really fast and suitable as primary HDD
 
Originally posted by: edmundoab
only used a 74GB raptor thus far,
no problems as yet.
I won't say totally no until I have used the drive for quite a while.
Btw,

I notice a difference jumping from 2 MB 7,200 to 8MB with 10,000 RPM
don't know if the cache made the difference for me more then the RPM.
But these drives are really fast and suitable as primary HDD
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the 74GB don't have the performance problems that plagued the 36GB ones, and you are benefiting from both the caceh and spindel speed 🙂
 
good thing I waited a little longer for raptor II then.
for once it felt better then a RAM or CPU upgrade 😉
 
Originally posted by: rod
Id probably go with the 80GB. 36GB just isn't enough to do much with these days, especially when you consider that some games will take up 4GB(over 10% of 36GB, but only 5% of 80GB). And remember, harddrives run slower when they are fuller.

RoD
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You're correct about drive performance. As drives fill up, their overall performance decreases. Anything beyond about 50% full will see a decrease in performance. It is recommended that you have at least 20% empty on the drive to avoid significant slow downs. To run optimally, drives need free space to work with, the fuller they get, the more difficult it gets for the drive to find consecutive empty clusters to write files to rapidly increasing fragmentation. When the drive is reduced to searching and reading from multiple spots on the disk for every file the slow downs will be considerable. Some disk utilities like certain defragmentation utilities won't even run if you don't have at least 10% of the disk empty.

I disagree though that 36GB of space isn't enough for a boot drive. If you take care of your system and don't unnecessarily hoard programs, utilities and games that you don't use any more, even 18GB is plenty. 36GB isn't much for mass storage, but it is a whole lot of space for OS, games and programs.

The 36GB Raptor is dated at this point. There were no problems with the drive that I was aware of, and it was certainly king of the hill when it was released, but that was a couple years ago. Other drives have caught up since. The 74GB Raptor is still the overall best ATA boot drive available. So if performance is what you are after, the 2nd gen Raptor is still it.
 
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: rod
Id probably go with the 80GB. 36GB just isn't enough to do much with these days, especially when you consider that some games will take up 4GB(over 10% of 36GB, but only 5% of 80GB). And remember, harddrives run slower when they are fuller.

RoD
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You're correct about drive performance. As drives fill up, their overall performance decreases. Anything beyond about 50% full will see a decrease in performance. It is recommended that you have at least 20% empty on the drive to avoid significant slow downs. To run optimally, drives need free space to work with, the fuller they get, the more difficult it gets for the drive to find consecutive empty clusters to write files to rapidly increasing fragmentation. When the drive is reduced to searching and reading from multiple spots on the disk for every file the slow downs will be considerable. Some disk utilities like certain defragmentation utilities won't even run if you don't have at least 10% of the disk empty.

I disagree though that 36GB of space isn't enough for a boot drive. If you take care of your system and don't unnecessarily hoard programs, utilities and games that you don't use any more, even 18GB is plenty. 36GB isn't much for mass storage, but it is a whole lot of space for OS, games and programs.

The 36GB Raptor is dated at this point. There were no problems with the drive that I was aware of, and it was certainly king of the hill when it was released, but that was a couple years ago. Other drives have caught up since. The 74GB Raptor is still the overall best ATA boot drive available. So if performance is what you are after, the 2nd gen Raptor is still it.
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fragmentation cause the drive to be 10 times slower, when in doubt defrag it which is a bit time consuming but drive performance is most important!
 
Originally posted by: wchou
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: rod
Id probably go with the 80GB. 36GB just isn't enough to do much with these days, especially when you consider that some games will take up 4GB(over 10% of 36GB, but only 5% of 80GB). And remember, harddrives run slower when they are fuller.

RoD
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You're correct about drive performance. As drives fill up, their overall performance decreases. Anything beyond about 50% full will see a decrease in performance. It is recommended that you have at least 20% empty on the drive to avoid significant slow downs. To run optimally, drives need free space to work with, the fuller they get, the more difficult it gets for the drive to find consecutive empty clusters to write files to rapidly increasing fragmentation. When the drive is reduced to searching and reading from multiple spots on the disk for every file the slow downs will be considerable. Some disk utilities like certain defragmentation utilities won't even run if you don't have at least 10% of the disk empty.

I disagree though that 36GB of space isn't enough for a boot drive. If you take care of your system and don't unnecessarily hoard programs, utilities and games that you don't use any more, even 18GB is plenty. 36GB isn't much for mass storage, but it is a whole lot of space for OS, games and programs.

The 36GB Raptor is dated at this point. There were no problems with the drive that I was aware of, and it was certainly king of the hill when it was released, but that was a couple years ago. Other drives have caught up since. The 74GB Raptor is still the overall best ATA boot drive available. So if performance is what you are after, the 2nd gen Raptor is still it.
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fragmentation cause the drive to be 10 times slower, when in doubt defrag it which is a bit time consuming but drive performance is most important!
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am i the only person that defrags a couple of times a week?
 
Defragementing will only fix part of the problem. A full drive will still be slower, simply because more of the disc is used so the average seek will be longer. It takes quite a bit longer for the read head to move over 80% of the platter than it does 25% of the platter. Defragmentation can only fix so much. It can unfragment files and some utilities will try and intelligently reorder files, but that can only go so far, the programs aren't psychic and they can't always predict what programs and files you will be loading in what order to minimize required seeks.

Also again, disks need space to work with to operate optimally, be it for file copies, moves, temp storage, or whatever, if the disk has to search for the space, or move way to the inside of the platters everytime it needs space to write to, performance suffers.
 
so my 36GB system drive that is about 40% full that gets defragged a couple of times a week i pretty optimum? 🙂 🙂
 
Don't get the 36gb raptor. It's an older model raptor.

The newest is the WD740GD which is a 74gb raptor that was an upgrade to the 36gb one.
It received new drive electronics, faster speed, quieter operation, and maybe less heat than the original 36gb raptor.

Myself....I'm waiting for the Sata 2 version of the WD740GD. Nothing, (non-scsi) is going to beat the performance of the WD740GD raptors.

You can see this here, www.storagereview.com
 
Originally posted by: Battlewaffle
Don't get the 36gb raptor. It's an older model raptor.

The newest is the WD740GD which is a 74gb raptor that was an upgrade to the 36gb one.
It received new drive electronics, faster speed, quieter operation, and maybe less heat than the original 36gb raptor.

Myself....I'm waiting for the Sata 2 version of the WD740GD. Nothing, (non-scsi) is going to beat the performance of the WD740GD raptors.

You can see this here, www.storagereview.com
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from what i have read those hitachi sataII 7200rpm drives seem to really move
 
I have a 36gb raptor right now and my old hard drive was an 80GB 7200rpm seagate. For me, the raptor was definitely the right decision. I don't really need more than 36gigs, because I don't do a ton of downloading or video editing on this computer. This drive is much faster than the old one. Windows XP installed incredibly fast. Now it seems like my computer starts up, installs apps and copies files all much faster.
 
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