#1 thing to come between people

[ranmaniac]

Just bring an iPod with those in-ear headphones and pretend you're listening.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: thejnaitor

Originally posted by: WA261
Oh, wow..just as bad. How old are you? Are they fanatics?

I don't think I would call them fanatics, just fairly normal members of this faith... hehe. However, my Mom is basically acting like I am killing her inside by not believing, so whatever. I treat her like a mom should be treated and do nothing wrong, yet I am not good enough for them since I don't go to church.

Best way to deal with this is to tell them that you're sorry you're not able to believe as they do right now but that if you went through all the motions it would be a lie, and you respect them and their beliefs too much to make a mockery of them like that. I would also remind them that you are intent on finding truth, and that if they have full confidence their beliefs are true, you will eventually find that out in your own explorations.

It won't entirely mollify them, but hopefully it will keep a bridge between you for relationship purposes and still give you enough space to believe what you feel is true.

[edit] Oh, and I think the number on thing to come between most people is probably money, not religion.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Mears
Grow up. Your parents are putting a roof over your head and and food on your plate. Suffering through a couple hours once a week is a minor sacrifice.

What's wrong with moving out?

 

[Mears]

Originally posted by: thejnaitor

Originally posted by: Mears
Grow up. Your parents are putting a roof over your head and and food on your plate. Suffering through a couple hours once a week is a minor sacrifice.

"Grow up" as in go to a church that I don't believe in? No thanks.

No. ?Grow up,? as in realize that your parents have your best interests at heart, regardless of whether or not you agree with them. You?ll be extremely fortunate if you ever have anyone else in your life that loves you as much as your mother.

You?ll have plenty of time to make your own decisions when you?re an adult and living on your own. In the meantime, show some respect.

 

[Dirigible]

Originally posted by: thejnaitor
Yeah, they actually gave me until the end of the semester to make up my mind, but I will be moving out then. I would just go to church and do what they want, but I can't live with myself when I don't believe what the church teaches. I am 20, by the way.

Good for you. I'm sorry you're having issues with your parents. Hypocrytically going to church when you don't believe and would it make you lose your self respect is the wrong choice. You have to be true to yourself, even if it upsets your folks. Here's pulling for you to do well on your own and that you can make peace with your parents over time. It may take a while, and it may be helpful to get some geographic distance for a while, but I know a lot of people with fundamental differences with their familes that worked it out eventually.

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
I think it all comes down to being close(d?)-minded.

Being religious and close minded go hand and hand. The most closed minded people are the biggest god beliers, and the most open minded people are atheist.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
I think it all comes down to being close(d?)-minded.

Being religious and close minded go hand and hand. The most closed minded people are the biggest god beliers, and the most open minded people are atheist.

And yet you consistently manage to be an exception!

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
I think it all comes down to being close(d?)-minded.

Being religious and close minded go hand and hand. The most closed minded people are the biggest god beliers, and the most open minded people are atheist.

Agnostics would technically be the open minded as they have made no real choice.... I hate how people confuse that.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: DVK916
Being religious and close minded go hand and hand. The most closed minded people are the biggest god beliers, and the most open minded people are atheist.

No, an atheist has blind faith in the non-existence of the supernatural, even though it's impossible to disprove.

We agnostics accept that we don't know, and that we probably can't ever know, but we keep an open mind.

 

[thejnaitor]

Best way to deal with this is to tell them that you're sorry you're not able to believe as they do right now but that if you went through all the motions it would be a lie, and you respect them and their beliefs too much to make a mockery of them like that. I would also remind them that you are intent on finding truth, and that if they have full confidence their beliefs are true, you will eventually find that out in your own explorations.

It won't entirely mollify them, but hopefully it will keep a bridge between you for relationship purposes and still give you enough space to believe what you feel is true.

[edit] Oh, and I think the number on thing to come between most people is probably money, not religion.

Those are pretty much the exact words I have told my Mom, yet she doesn't accept that as being good enough. I have told her that if their church is really true, I will eventually find out, but for now, I don't believe it and thus don't want to live a lie and go through the motions. Thanks for the advice and understanding

 

[thejnaitor]

Originally posted by: Dirigible

Originally posted by: thejnaitor
Yeah, they actually gave me until the end of the semester to make up my mind, but I will be moving out then. I would just go to church and do what they want, but I can't live with myself when I don't believe what the church teaches. I am 20, by the way.

Good for you. I'm sorry you're having issues with your parents. Hypocrytically going to church when you don't believe and would it make you lose your self respect is the wrong choice. You have to be true to yourself, even if it upsets your folks. Here's pulling for you to do well on your own and that you can make peace with your parents over time. It may take a while, and it may be helpful to get some geographic distance for a while, but I know a lot of people with fundamental differences with their familes that worked it out eventually.

Thanks for your thoughts. It makes me feel better to know that we might eventually work things out. I had hoped that things would stay fine until I finished college, but it looks like I'll end up a year short of that before I have to move out. Oh well... hehe.

 

[JujuFish]

My roommate's mother is Catholic and his father is Islamic.

 

[skywhr]

Move out if you dont like it FTW

oh yea MORON? I mean MORMON?

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: DVK916
Being religious and close minded go hand and hand. The most closed minded people are the biggest god beliers, and the most open minded people are atheist.

No, an atheist has blind faith in the non-existence of the supernatural, even though it's impossible to disprove.

We agnostics accept that we don't know, and that we probably can't ever know, but we keep an open mind.

Well don't you feel special :disgust:

 

[WA261]

Originally posted by: skywhr
Move out if you dont like it FTW

oh yea MORON? I mean MORMON?

Wow, you added so much to the thread. I so wish you would post your wise comments in every thread....:rolls;

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: Looney
Wow. Maybe it's a good thing.

Still, i can't believe parents are willing to do that to their children? Where is the unconditional love? I was one of the worst child a parent could have, but when i went to prison, they were right there for me.

There's a part of the bible that says you're expected to love god more than your kids. Fun stuff, huh?

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: thejnaitor

Originally posted by: Mears
Grow up. Your parents are putting a roof over your head and and food on your plate. Suffering through a couple hours once a week is a minor sacrifice.

"Grow up" as in go to a church that I don't believe in? No thanks.

then move out.

your parents has given u a ultimatum.

simple choice.

edit:
btw- $ is the #1 thing that comes between relationships.

 

[BoomerD]

Damn, move out or go back to the Church of LSD?
BYE...I'll write if I find work!