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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
The crust is basically a solid shell of neutrons, right? Neutron stars were always my favorite Astronomy Thing. Black holes are pretty easy to understand/explain, but Neutron stars are just plain weird.
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They are spinning very fast, right?
 
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
The crust is basically a solid shell of neutrons, right? Neutron stars were always my favorite Astronomy Thing. Black holes are pretty easy to understand/explain, but Neutron stars are just plain weird.
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They are spinning very fast, right?
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Yes. Ice skater analogy. With arms out, the skater spins slowly. Pull the arms in, faster. So, the orginal star was pushing 500k-1m miles in size. Now, it is 15 miles across. MUCH faster.

The 'theory' in the 70's was that a washtub of neutrons with all of the space removed was alll it took to make the universe. The neutron star above still has plenty of space between atoms and any orbiting particals.
 
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Yeah well... One teapsoon of a blackhole is infinite. So thar, in ur face.
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Something never stood right with the concept of blackholes to me. Obviously, the matter cannot disintegrate to nothingness. This may mean that a blackhole can only get larger, eventually consuming the entire universe. However, it has been shown that every galaxy has a blackhole at its center, just like every rapidly circular movement has a vortex in the center. Hence, it must be turned to pure energy and released on the otherside.
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Uh, you should read about them. I think you'd be interested. Matter doesn't just go into nothingness. It's all there, slowly falling into the black hole from a distant viewer, and already torn into subatomic particles in the reference frame of the fallen objects. Black holes supposedly emit radiation, too. This hawking radiation is what keeps microblackholes from growing.
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So it does radiate something...or light can escape from it. I thought something was amiss.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Yeah well... One teapsoon of a blackhole is infinite. So thar, in ur face.
Click to expand...

Something never stood right with the concept of blackholes to me. Obviously, the matter cannot disintegrate to nothingness. This may mean that a blackhole can only get larger, eventually consuming the entire universe. However, it has been shown that every galaxy has a blackhole at its center, just like every rapidly circular movement has a vortex in the center. Hence, it must be turned to pure energy and released on the otherside.
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Uh, you should read about them. I think you'd be interested. Matter doesn't just go into nothingness. It's all there, slowly falling into the black hole from a distant viewer, and already torn into subatomic particles in the reference frame of the fallen objects. Black holes supposedly emit radiation, too. This hawking radiation is what keeps microblackholes from growing.
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So it does radiate something...or light can escape from it. I thought something was amiss.
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no, a black hole emits nothing.

the Accretion Disk emits massive x-ray and/or gamma radiation as matter enters and is destroyed.
 
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Yeah well... One teapsoon of a blackhole is infinite. So thar, in ur face.
Click to expand...

Something never stood right with the concept of blackholes to me. Obviously, the matter cannot disintegrate to nothingness. This may mean that a blackhole can only get larger, eventually consuming the entire universe. However, it has been shown that every galaxy has a blackhole at its center, just like every rapidly circular movement has a vortex in the center. Hence, it must be turned to pure energy and released on the otherside.
Click to expand...

Uh, you should read about them. I think you'd be interested. Matter doesn't just go into nothingness. It's all there, slowly falling into the black hole from a distant viewer, and already torn into subatomic particles in the reference frame of the fallen objects. Black holes supposedly emit radiation, too. This hawking radiation is what keeps microblackholes from growing.
Click to expand...

So it does radiate something...or light can escape from it. I thought something was amiss.
Click to expand...
no, a black hole emits nothing.

the Accretion Disk emits massive x-ray and/or gamma radiation as matter enters and is destroyed.
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OK, then we return to my original problem. Nothing can be "destroyed" into nothingness. Hence, there must be a regeneration into something else. What is it? Is the radiation the same elements that are entering or just some of them? I've watched these science documentaries where they show white light escaping from the other side of a blackhole. Is that the Hawking radiation? If so, then I doubt all matter entering blackholes regress into a singularity. That may just be a mathematically neat way of explaining things because we cannot observe what is going on.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Yeah well... One teapsoon of a blackhole is infinite. So thar, in ur face.
Click to expand...

Something never stood right with the concept of blackholes to me. Obviously, the matter cannot disintegrate to nothingness. This may mean that a blackhole can only get larger, eventually consuming the entire universe. However, it has been shown that every galaxy has a blackhole at its center, just like every rapidly circular movement has a vortex in the center. Hence, it must be turned to pure energy and released on the otherside.
Click to expand...

Uh, you should read about them. I think you'd be interested. Matter doesn't just go into nothingness. It's all there, slowly falling into the black hole from a distant viewer, and already torn into subatomic particles in the reference frame of the fallen objects. Black holes supposedly emit radiation, too. This hawking radiation is what keeps microblackholes from growing.
Click to expand...

So it does radiate something...or light can escape from it. I thought something was amiss.
Click to expand...
no, a black hole emits nothing.

the Accretion Disk emits massive x-ray and/or gamma radiation as matter enters and is destroyed.
Click to expand...

OK, then we return to my original problem. Nothing can be "destroyed" into nothingness. Hence, there must be a regeneration into something else. What is it? Is the radiation the same elements that are entering or just some of them? I've watched these science documentaries where they show white light escaping from the other side of a blackhole. Is that the Hawking radiation? If so, then I doubt all matter entering blackholes regress into a singularity. That may just be a mathematically neat way of explaining things because we cannot observe what is going on.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

At the center of a black hole lies the singularity, where matter is crushed to infinite density, the pull of gravity is infinitely strong, and spacetime has infinite curvature.[39] This means that a black hole's mass becomes entirely compressed into a region with zero volume.[40] This zero-volume, infinitely dense region at the center of a black hole is called a gravitational singularity.

The singularity of a non-rotating black hole has zero length, width, and height; a rotating black hole's is smeared out to form a ring shape lying in the plane of rotation.[41] The ring still has no thickness and hence no volume.

The appearance of singularities in general relativity is commonly perceived as signaling the breakdown of the theory.[42] This breakdown, however, is expected; it occurs in a situation where quantum mechanical effects should describe these actions due to the extremely high density and therefore particle interactions. To date it has not been possible to combine quantum and gravitational effects into a single theory. It is generally expected that a theory of quantum gravity will feature black holes without singularities
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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Yeah well... One teapsoon of a blackhole is infinite. So thar, in ur face.
Click to expand...

Something never stood right with the concept of blackholes to me. Obviously, the matter cannot disintegrate to nothingness. This may mean that a blackhole can only get larger, eventually consuming the entire universe. However, it has been shown that every galaxy has a blackhole at its center, just like every rapidly circular movement has a vortex in the center. Hence, it must be turned to pure energy and released on the otherside.
Click to expand...

Uh, you should read about them. I think you'd be interested. Matter doesn't just go into nothingness. It's all there, slowly falling into the black hole from a distant viewer, and already torn into subatomic particles in the reference frame of the fallen objects. Black holes supposedly emit radiation, too. This hawking radiation is what keeps microblackholes from growing.
Click to expand...

So it does radiate something...or light can escape from it. I thought something was amiss.
Click to expand...
no, a black hole emits nothing.

the Accretion Disk emits massive x-ray and/or gamma radiation as matter enters and is destroyed.
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Black body radiation.
 
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Yeah well... One teapsoon of a blackhole is infinite. So thar, in ur face.
Click to expand...

Something never stood right with the concept of blackholes to me. Obviously, the matter cannot disintegrate to nothingness. This may mean that a blackhole can only get larger, eventually consuming the entire universe. However, it has been shown that every galaxy has a blackhole at its center, just like every rapidly circular movement has a vortex in the center. Hence, it must be turned to pure energy and released on the otherside.
Click to expand...

Uh, you should read about them. I think you'd be interested. Matter doesn't just go into nothingness. It's all there, slowly falling into the black hole from a distant viewer, and already torn into subatomic particles in the reference frame of the fallen objects. Black holes supposedly emit radiation, too. This hawking radiation is what keeps microblackholes from growing.
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You also have to realize that gravity is a very weak force. You could replace our sun with a black hole and all the planets could orbit the same as they do today. that is why the universe isn't consumed by black holes.

 
Though their surfaces are generally smooth, mountains made of super-dense star stuff rise from the crust.
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I enjoyed the article until that scientific gem popped up and ruined it.
 
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Yeah well... One teapsoon of a blackhole is infinite. So thar, in ur face.
Click to expand...

Something never stood right with the concept of blackholes to me. Obviously, the matter cannot disintegrate to nothingness. This may mean that a blackhole can only get larger, eventually consuming the entire universe. However, it has been shown that every galaxy has a blackhole at its center, just like every rapidly circular movement has a vortex in the center. Hence, it must be turned to pure energy and released on the otherside.
Click to expand...

Uh, you should read about them. I think you'd be interested. Matter doesn't just go into nothingness. It's all there, slowly falling into the black hole from a distant viewer, and already torn into subatomic particles in the reference frame of the fallen objects. Black holes supposedly emit radiation, too. This hawking radiation is what keeps microblackholes from growing.
Click to expand...

You also have to realize that gravity is a very weak force. You could replace our sun with a black hole and all the planets could orbit the same as they do today. that is why the universe isn't consumed by black holes.
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To clarify for everyone, it would have to be the same mass (thus having a Schwarzschild radius of only 3km).
 
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: ScottyB
So, it's just like my penis then?
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collapsed and untouched?
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Tiny and extremely dense?
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Prone to rare - sudden explosions?
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near uranus?
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And always studied by groups of old men?
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Has a thick crust on it?
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: ScottyB
So, it's just like my penis then?
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collapsed and untouched?
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Tiny and extremely dense?
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Prone to rare - sudden explosions?
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near uranus?
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And always studied by groups of old men?
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Has a thick crust on it?
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It'll never come into contact with a human within your lifetime?
 
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