1.8" SSD w/ TRIM support

MrK6

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So here's the scoop: My laptop is a Dell XT2, which I really like. The problem is it has a 1.8" 5400RPM 120GB mechanical HDD, and I need to drop an SSD in this thing. As it stands, I would like a 1.8" drive with a capacity of about 32-40GB (I'll buy more if I have to, I really don't need the space though) that must support TRIM. This is my work/school laptop and I don't have the time to screw around with wiping it and running optimizers, it just needs to work.

Now I know Intel's newest X18-M G2's support TRIM, but they're 80GB and much faster than what I need, and I think paying ~$230 is overkill for my usage. What I'm asking is if anyone knows or has heard of a more value-oriented drive like the X25-V's that support TRIM and are 1.8" form factor? I've been googling and browsing tons of forums over the last month or so and so far haven't come up with anything definitive.

Thanks for any help/suggestions you can throw my way.

-Mr. K6

Oh, and if this should go in the notebook section instead, sorry, please move it :).
 
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Emulex

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samsung does oem 64gb but you won't get a warranty since they mostly sell to integrators.

if you wait a while you can expect to see WD BLUE but again price isn't a big issue with them.

so yeah the x18-m is about it. $150 for G1 $220 for G2 and $450 for 160gb G2.

i've tried them all - they all rock - absolutely no performance loss from the x25-m
 

kmmatney

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I just bought the X18-M G1 for 149.99 shipped, and it is quite fast. It doesn't support TRIM, however I have heard the CCleaners "wipe" function acts like a manual TRIM and will get your performance back. I tried filling up my SSD, so only 1 GB was left, just to see how bad things got. To my surprise, I didn't notice any performance degradation in real world use, although maybe it will take more time for degradation to set in.

If the CCleaner wipe really works like a manual TRIM, then their isn't too much going against the 80 GB G1. On the other hand, if a manual TRIM was this easy, then you think Intel would have supported this in the SSD Toolbox software. You can still use the SSD toolbox to diagnose the drive, just not to TRIM it.
 
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MrK6

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samsung does oem 64gb but you won't get a warranty since they mostly sell to integrators.

if you wait a while you can expect to see WD BLUE but again price isn't a big issue with them.

so yeah the x18-m is about it. $150 for G1 $220 for G2 and $450 for 160gb G2.

i've tried them all - they all rock - absolutely no performance loss from the x25-m
With the X-18M, I know I'll get the performance I pay for, it's just that I don't really need it and therefore don't really want to pay for it :p (nor the extra capacity).
I just bought the X18-M G1 for 149.99 shipped, and it is quite fast. It doesn't support TRIM, however I have heard the CCleaners "wipe" function acts like a manual TRIM and will get your performance back. I tried filling up my SSD, so only 1 GB was left, just to see how bad things got. To my surprise, I didn't notice any performance degradation in real world use, although maybe it will take more time for degradation to set in.

If the CCleaner wipe really works like a manual TRIM, then their isn't too much going against the 80 GB G1. On the other hand, if a manual TRIM was this easy, then you think Intel would have supported this in the SSD Toolbox software. You can still use the SSD toolbox to diagnose the drive, just not to TRIM it.
The thing is, I'd upgrade to a TRIM-supporting drive eventually anyway. Unless they were literally giving cheap SSD's 1.8" away (~$50 in my book), I wouldn't spend anymore to get something I didn't want and would eventually replace.
Supertalent has a new 1.8" Indilinx Barefoot based line - http://www.supertalent.com/datasheets/6_10045.pdf - datahsheet
http://www.ewiz.com/query.php?categry=0&s=kx2&x=0&y=0 - product link...32GB goes for around $130

Then there's runcore, which also features the Indilinx Barefoot controller-
http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=Browse+By+Brand:RunCore:RunCore+1.8+Inch+Pro+IV+micro+SATA+SSD
The link to the Runcore didn't work, but according to SuperTalent's site, those drives don't support TRIM. Is there a firmware coming that will eventually enable it? Like I said, I want the maintenance done automatically; it's not something I want to have to keep track of.

Thanks for the replies so far guys :).
 

RU482

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The link to the Runcore didn't work, but according to SuperTalent's site, those drives don't support TRIM. Is there a firmware coming that will eventually enable it? Like I said, I want the maintenance done automatically; it's not something I want to have to keep track of.

Thanks for the replies so far guys :).

For the supertalent Drive, it has 1916 firmware, and lists TRIM as one of the attributes when I run Crystal Disk Info. There are two versions (KX and KX2)...the KX is circa 2008 w/jmicron controller. The KX2 was just released in feb '10.

It looks like the 32GB Supertalent KX2 is OOS, but it runs about $135. If you're interested, I have both the Supertalent and the Runcore 32GB drives new in box...
 

RU482

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post benchmarks of the two please :) 32gb benchmarks

I could, but the systems I test with are a bit limited. I can say that the KX2 tests equal to the Supertalent Ultradrive ME. Runcore is similar, actually a bit higher
 

Emulex

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that's okay i pull 250mb/s off a 1.86ghz core 2 duo SL9400 (9300?) its ancient slow on a x18-G2, the X18-m G1 is tad bit slower (XP not windows 7) so alignment was at fault. i was curious if everyone was running on common ground.

I get it totally if you don't have an engineering sample; don't want to run bench on what you sell.
 

RU482

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it's more like...the system I have to test them in is ATOM melow based, so it goes through a PATA to SATA bridge. The bus overhead caps read/writes at about 60MB/s.