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1.7 gig Celeron. Come on, you could eat a buncha sand and puke a better processor

videoclone

videoclone

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Before you go flaming me ... i come in peace. 🙂

Intel is not in it for us !!! ... do you think Intel likes selling a 2.4Ghz P4 that overclock?s too 3Ghz without a sweat
Hell No !! .....

Intel loves -------> 1.7Ghz and 2Ghz+ Celerons ........

They sell these things by the truck load and they cost nothing to make ...... but a 2Ghz Celeron is like having a 1.3Ghz Duron or worse .... it chugged like a donkey at the last lan I was at when playing the Half Life mod Natural Selection with geforce2 now that?s sad !!!

it comes down to this people .... what are you going to buy ... a 1.7 or 2Ghz Celeron or for the same price and 50% better performance an AthlonXP 2000+ or 2200+

If you have just read this and thought what a stupid question ....... i would get the Athlon without a second thought over the celeron .......

Just think ... more people are still buying Intel Systems with these CPU's in them then all the AMD CPU line combined.

The fact is !!! people watch a hell of allot of TV ... people see blue men dancing around an Intel CPU and go out and buy one. what?s the use of all this useless blabber you ask ... well just think guys ... without AMD we would all be using Celeron 1.7 and 2Ghz CPU's that we spent over $150 for ? : )

PS: I hate intel because Intel ripped off my grandmother when she got a celeron 1.7Ghz ?! ? how will she play Half life 2 when it comes out now???
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I don't think anyone will argue in favor of the Celeron 1.7GHz, or any other P4 Celeron, but hey, at least it's not a VIA C3 putting out K6-2 performance levels.
 
I'm stunned that my little joke spawned it's own thread. But it is a fact that the Celeron chip is a seriously poor performer when compared to AMD.

Oh, my grandma prefers UT2003 over HL2. And she's a crack shot with the sploogie gun 😀
 
Originally posted by: 1Crashman
I don't think anyone will argue in favor of the Celeron 1.7GHz, or any other P4 Celeron, but hey, at least it's not a VIA C3 putting out K6-2 performance levels.
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But but but! You can passivly cool a C3... thats coooool. 😉 err Cool.. ? lol 😎
 
I thought celerons were just P4's with all but 128K of L2 disabled? I can't see them being all that much cheaper than full out P4's.
 
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
I thought celerons were just P4's with all but 128K of L2 disabled? I can't see them being all that much cheaper than full out P4's.
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Eitherway they are complete crap.
 
Can't disagree with you at all... they are pathetic... I was just saying I doubt Intel likes selling them... they'd be way happier if everyone bought 3.2gHz P4's 😀
 
The cely also comes with a Quad Pumped 100MHz FSB ... not just 128k Level 2

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P4's are at 133 Quad Pumped ( 533 ) and now even 200 Quad ( 800FSB )

AMD's are at 133 Double 166 Double and 200 Double trouble
 
I still build systems for people with limited bugets and that do not plan on gaming, the Celerons. Combined with the Intel chipset it equals less calls from the customer. Now if they do gaming it is an easy choice for them to pick the P4 over the XP since there is really not that much price difference when talking apples to apples and not XP's overrated ratings.
 
Originally posted by: orion7144
I still build systems for people with limited bugets and that do not plan on gaming, the Celerons.
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I agree, they may have their place. But still, with a brand new build (all new components), I think there's a lot more value in an AMD budget system for the non-gamer as opposed to the Celeron.

Ok, I admit it, I have one. I bought a 1.4g celeron a few months ago for $35. I wanted to upgrade an old PIII 600 Dell and didn't want to build brand new, and I found a slot adapter for cheap. It's my 6 y/o son's machine. To call the machine "pathetic" is a stretch. He plays JKII, Tony Hawk3, LAN NWN with me, Elite Force2, some Harry Potter games, etc. Everything plays perfectly well for him.

A brand new budget build screams for a low-end Athlon. But upgrading an old Intel mobo to a Tualatin Celeron has its place... a short-term upgrade that uses exisiting components and costs less than $75.

deadseasquirrel
 
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: orion7144
I still build systems for people with limited bugets and that do not plan on gaming, the Celerons.
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I agree, they may have their place. But still, with a brand new build (all new components), I think there's a lot more value in an AMD budget system for the non-gamer as opposed to the Celeron.

Ok, I admit it, I have one. I bought a 1.4g celeron a few months ago for $35. I wanted to upgrade an old PIII 600 Dell and didn't want to build brand new, and I found a slot adapter for cheap. It's my 6 y/o son's machine. To call the machine "pathetic" is a stretch. He plays JKII, Tony Hawk3, LAN NWN with me, Elite Force2, some Harry Potter games, etc. Everything plays perfectly well for him.

A brand new budget build screams for a low-end Athlon. But upgrading an old Intel mobo to a Tualatin Celeron has its place... a short-term upgrade that uses exisiting components and costs less than $75.

deadseasquirrel
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And for ~$79 you could have replaced the mobo and chip with a 2200+ and ECS Fry's deal. I suspect the performace gain would have been siginificant.

 
Originally posted by: pspada
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: orion7144
I still build systems for people with limited bugets and that do not plan on gaming, the Celerons.
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I agree, they may have their place. But still, with a brand new build (all new components), I think there's a lot more value in an AMD budget system for the non-gamer as opposed to the Celeron.

Ok, I admit it, I have one. I bought a 1.4g celeron a few months ago for $35. I wanted to upgrade an old PIII 600 Dell and didn't want to build brand new, and I found a slot adapter for cheap. It's my 6 y/o son's machine. To call the machine "pathetic" is a stretch. He plays JKII, Tony Hawk3, LAN NWN with me, Elite Force2, some Harry Potter games, etc. Everything plays perfectly well for him.

A brand new budget build screams for a low-end Athlon. But upgrading an old Intel mobo to a Tualatin Celeron has its place... a short-term upgrade that uses exisiting components and costs less than $75.

deadseasquirrel
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And for ~$79 you could have replaced the mobo and chip with a 2200+ and ECS Fry's deal. I suspect the performace gain would have been siginificant.
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Not everyone lives near a Fry's
 
Originally posted by: pspada
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: orion7144
I still build systems for people with limited bugets and that do not plan on gaming, the Celerons.
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A brand new budget build screams for a low-end Athlon. But upgrading an old Intel mobo to a Tualatin Celeron has its place... a short-term upgrade that uses exisiting components and costs less than $75.
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And for ~$79 you could have replaced the mobo and chip with a 2200+ and ECS Fry's deal. I suspect the performace gain would have been siginificant.
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But the problem with that, pspada, is that I would then need some DDR to go with it (unless that ECS is one that can use SDRAM too), as well as a new PSU because the Dell PSUs don't play nice with other mobos. And there's a good chance I'd need a new case since the Dell mobo fits a certain way into that Dimension case....

You see my point. A mobo combo is nice, but not if I would have to get rid of my 512mb pc133, case, PSU, etc. and replace it with new stuff.

This is a small gaming machine for a 6 year-old that will easily last him until mid 2004 when I hand over my Xp 1700+ to him and build something new for me. Say watcha want about Celerons (and I'll most likely agree with you), but for ~$68, there wasn't a better way. Sure, I coulda sold my extra components for a little bit, and put a dent in the costs of the new ones, keeping the cost below $200... but, as I said, he's 6. It isn't like he'll be playing HL2. He can do JKII and EF2 botmatches at 1024x768 with good framerates.

And there is a Frys in Austin... granted, it's on the complete other side of the city from me. I don't need help going there, but I do often need help getting OUT of there. The first guy wants to check my receipt... the next guy wants to search my bag, and then there's the guy with the rubber glove...
 
ECS is one that can use SDRAM too !!! ... Yep it has both DDR and SD bus on the board 🙂 you get that allot with value boards.
 
Yup it does take the PC-133, but it probably would not have fit in the dell case anyway. If it's possible to put in new mobo, it'd have to be an microATX. And you are correct, the dell power supply would need to be replaced.....I have plenty of clients in the same situation, and for a kids machine, you certainly did provide a cost effective solution.

My take on my local Fry's: show up in the first hour or two that they open, or I won't go at all. If I want to see mammals in cages I'll go to the San Diego zoo instead.
 
I think videoclone was referring to the P4 based Celerons, which do suck.

But the Celeron deadseasquirrel upgraded with was a P3 based Celeron with a Tualatin core, the Tualatin core Celerons are not bad chips they performed almost as well as the P3 did(I know because I had a 1.2 Tualatin Celeron and it performed very well for the price at the time). So if someone has an old board that will support it, the 1.4 Tualatin Celeron for under $50 is not a bad investment.

But I know what you are saying about the athlons, if you are going for a good and cheap cpu from scratch then get an Athlon XP that is not one of the newest ones out there instead of imeadiatly going after the "value cpus".
 
Originally posted by: videoclone
my local Fry's ... Could someone tell me what a Fry's is ???
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A chain of giant electronics stores. They sell everything from computer stuff to ice cream. You can get some good deals there, but you damn well better know what you are buying, or you'll get screwed.

 
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrelThis is a small gaming machine for a 6 year-old that will easily last him until mid 2004 when I hand over my Xp 1700+ to him and build something new for me. Say watcha want about Celerons (and I'll most likely agree with you), but for ~$68, there wasn't a better way. Sure, I coulda sold my extra components for a little bit, and put a dent in the costs of the new ones, keeping the cost below $200... but, as I said, he's 6. It isn't like he'll be playing HL2. He can do JKII and EF2 botmatches at 1024x768 with good framerates.
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If you really love that kid, you'd get him a better motherboard with some DDR 😉. Actually, if you REALLY loved him, you'd tell him to stay the hell away from games as a whole!
 
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