He is really accurate, but the numbers he is using are not the same that circulate in other areas. Be proud, the place will be chock full of liberals! Most FSO's are liberals and those are the ones who have planned and established contracts for the building of this Embassy. You wonder why I come down on liberals so quickly. I worked with people who do this sort of work for 22 years.
He is really accurate, but the numbers he is using are not the same that circulate in other areas. Be proud, the place will be chock full of liberals! Most FSO's are liberals and those are the ones who have planned and established contracts for the building of this Embassy. You wonder why I come down on liberals so quickly. I worked with people who do this sort of work for 22 years.
This may be true, but the reality is that even transporting all the materials from the US shouldn't cost that much. The reality is an awfully large amount of material can be stuck on a transport and taken to Iraq all at once. This cost simply doesn't begin to account for the figure we're hearing. I would understand and support extensive security measures and certain inherent fortifications to the embassy design, but the level of cost being reported is disturbing if true.
That arse has nothing to be proud of. These people will go down in history as some of the worst public servants in modern history.
daniel1113
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That's pretty expensive... the U.S embassies in Berlin and South Africa combined cost less than a quarter of that...
EDIT: Just FYI, the Berlin embassy has an estimated cost of $82.8 million.
EDIT: Just FYI, the Berlin embassy has an estimated cost of $82.8 million.
Thats wholely incorrect. Medical Coverage for all, would bankrupt our country. Just look at the current projections of the medicad shortfall. Its staggering, and its only going to get worse. Healthcare for all would make the the problem 100 times worse. $300billion, or $1.4trillion would NOT COME close to covering medical coverage for all over 10 years. Unless by all you mean a socialist program were, those that already have medical coverage get nothing, but have to pay into a system so others can have medical coverage.
Heh. My school built a nice new building 2 years ago - ~0.5m ft^2, with tons of equipment (hundreds of comps/servers, digital design workstations, several labs, etc etc) all for $100m CAD.
You can build a whole fscking university with 1.5b. :roll:
You can build a whole fscking university with 1.5b. :roll:
wtf, if there isnt any iraqi companies that can do this then wtf happened to the rebuilding of iraq??
It is very possible to spend 1.5 billions on a building albeit going to be very nice. MGM Grand Hotel cost 1 billion to build in 1993.
ROFLOL,and that em "hotel" has what 3,000-4000 rooms?? Does an embassy need 3,000 rooms? I think not...
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How many secure constructions have you worked on or around. Secure enough that ALL of the MATERIALS have to be transported from the US?
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Bawhahahah,ALL materials have to come from the US??? Yeah,everytime a building gets built in France,Germany,England etc....ALL the materials come from the US. What.... No one on that side of the pond is capable of manufacturing any building materials?
My God,no wonder Bush can foist off a $300 BILLION $$$ disaster on some Americans.....
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Thats wholely incorrect. Medical Coverage for all, would bankrupt our country. Just look at the current projections of the medicad shortfall. Its staggering, and its only going to get worse. Healthcare for all would make the the problem 100 times worse. $300billion, or $1.4trillion would NOT COME close to covering medical coverage for all over 10 years. Unless by all you mean a socialist program were, those that already have medical coverage get nothing, but have to pay into a system so others can have medical coverage.[/quote]
You guys REALLY need to quit listening to Limbaugh and Neil Boortz and get some facts. NO ONE says that medical coverage for all US citizens will be FREE,it will be made AFFORDABLE for those who aren't covered at the workplace,self-employed etc. I don't think it should be free,but a country this size can do SOMETHING to make it affordable to all people.
BTW,I can still remember when companies started offering health care the SKY WOULD FALL according to many. Prices would soar out of control,companies would go bankrupt one by one. BS,never happened. We have about 15-20% of this country that have ZERO health care. Try working a minimum wage job or hell,one that pays $8.00 per hour and purchase health care for yourself and your family. At $400-600 per MONTH for quality insurance you'll find out just how quickly you can't afford it.
Starbuck1975
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Our President's decision to send our nation to war is independent of health care...there are many programs and other social issues that deserve funding, but question the priorities of our President...all I know is once our nation is at war, our soldiers and the mission deserve the funding necessary to accomplish the mission...if part of that strategy includes the establishment of an embassy, that is the call of those running this circus.
Sure, if the blue states are willing to pay for welfare, abortion clinics, and the other pet causes that they champion...the nature of our society is such that our tax dollars will go to things we don't agree with...some of those things will benefit us directly...other things will seem like a waste of money.
You cant just build an embassy. You probably have to provide housing for the Marines and a compound for the state dept employees so they have some safety and security from kidnapping and bombings. Then you have to have a commissary (Grocery Store) for all the American Employees. Then there is the offices for the CIA and Intelligence operatives. The building probably also has to be able to host receptions.
Sorry, but $1.5 billion?
My hometown just built a brand-new 15,000 seat basketball arena for $70 million. It's HUGE. How big is this going to be? One square mile?
How many secure constructions have you worked on or around. Secure enough that ALL of the MATERIALS have to be transported from the US?
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Bawhahahah,ALL materials have to come from the US??? Yeah,everytime a building gets built in France,Germany,England etc....ALL the materials come from the US. What.... No one on that side of the pond is capable of manufacturing any building materials?
My God,no wonder Bush can foist off a $300 BILLION $$$ disaster on some Americans.....
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Like I said, the material that makes the difference in cost simply isn't public domain.
It might not be 3000 rooms, however it might have a laundering room for Cheney and his cronies.
LOL, you will be surprise how quick their security be up on you if you try to cheat/steal. IMHO, the MGM is more secure than any where in Iraq at the moment.
The welfare we pay goes to the red states.
This has been posted at P&N several times. Are any of the red state welfare recipients ever going to read it? Will one of them ever at least say thank you?
Federal Tax Burdens and Expenditures by State
cKGunslinger
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Come one people, use your heads. The $$ isn't for materials alone.
How about this? I'll give any of you $20 to build a 6" tall house from a deck of cards. But you have to build in on the moon. $100 if you build it on Mars. Sounds great, huh? A deck of cards only costs $0.75! I can make one on my dining room table for free in about 5 minutes! You're making a huge profit, huh? :roll:
This will not be a 1.5 Billion dollar building - it will be a 100 million dollar building, requiring over a billion dollars worth of labor, security, transportation, staffing, etc. Take into account, it may possibly be destroyed or damaged by insurgents every other month during its construction. That's a lot of re-building. And you think those unioned construction workers will be making minimum wage? In a combat zone?
That said, is the building overpriced? Probably. Have you all exaggerated about how overpriced it is and chose to ignore the complications in constructing it? Definitely.
cKGunslinger
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Where's my 'thank you' from those drivers that get into auto accidents? I pay auto insurance every month and have been accident free. Waaaaah!
Where's my 'thank you' from those people that smoke and get cancer? Or eat junk and have heart problems? Or get old and get sick? I pay medical insurance and am relatively young and healthy. Waaaaah!
Where's my 'thank you' from those who eat candy and drink sodas and don't brush their teeth or floss? I pay dental insurance every month and have no cavities. Waaaaah!
:roll: At least find something original to complain about. The whole "I take care of the Red States with my taxes and they do nothing for me" routine is getting old and tired..
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