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1.1 Celey a worthy successor to PIII550E for budget minded?

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techwanabe

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I've been running a PIII550E with an MSI slotket adapter on an ASUS P3V4X for over a year now. It's been OC'd to 733 mhz (133 mhz FSB) since I installed a Taisol HSF a year ago. I'm on a tight budget so I'm exploring inexpensive upgrade solutions

Would I get a significant boost by replacing the PIII550E with a 1.0 or 1.1 Celeron? Especially if I could OC it?

Which Celey would be most able to get to 133 FSB?

Oldfart? others?
 
Hey friend I am really surprised of us having almost the same configuration!! Pentium, ATi, RAM, even the same overclocking level!! 🙂 I 'll be replacing my 550 in 2-3 months time but if it's gonna be a celeron, we have to keep our eyes definitely only at the 1,2 Ghz + with the tualatin 0,13m core. Intel says at the site that the i815EP chipset is fully compatible with the new one u just have to find a motherboard that complies to the voltage changes of the new cpu (check transcend-the new motherboards with the 815EP are fully compatible). I think it's a great, reliable, steady choice for mid range budget like ours that will show great gain in all aspects since the new celeron has 256KB L2 cache, 100 mhz FSB (which can easily reach far more due to the smaller die size of 0,13m) and running at 1200mhz instead of our 733!! Imagine 12x100 getting at 12x133!! That calculates at 1,6 Ghz!!!! Awesome isn't it?
 
To get to 133 FSB, I'd go with a C900 as the safest bet. The C1000 and C1100 may get there also, but more chance that they wont.
 
I am not sure if you are considering mobo upgrade, as you mentioned "inexpensive".
If not,
then going to a CELE (PII) will not give you any improved performance.

I have a P700@933/133 and another identical system with a CELE 800@1066@133. CAS2 memory./256mb. Both are using ABit SE6 mobo's.

The P700 is faster and noticeable when loaded.
However the P700 is still $100 where the Cele 800 is $50.
Hopefully the P700's will come down after the new Cele come out and the newer Tele mobo's become more numerous.

I agree that if you consider uping the mobo, look for the Tele's.
 
dbal, Basically if I was going to go to the expense and trouble to replace the mother board also, I would probably go with the Shuttle with KT266A chipset and AMD Athlon XP 1600+. But presently I'm looking into much less expensive options to upgrade. That is why I mentioned CPU upgrade (only). My present rig seems to run most things I do and play well at 733 mhz. So I can afford to wait if need be. Maybe waiting is a good thing since you mentioned the .13 micron Tualatins. 🙂

Oldfart, Thanks for your input. Do you think that would give me a significant boost?


 
Sorry didn't notice u wanted just a cpu upgrade....I think I 'll take the shot anyway soon!
 
For the cost of the cpu only, its worth the try for a 900 at 1200. I bought a 900 and its at 1200 no problem, 1.8v I think and my agp is overclocked though as I have a BX mb. You'll make your money back selling the 550e.
 
If you want to tell people you're running your CPU over 1GHz, by all means get the Celery.
If you'd like to put that cash to better use, stay with your nice little P3 @ 733. You shouldn't have any problem taking your board to a 135-140MHz FSB, to get your CPU up a little.

If you just have to spend some money, pick up a nice 256mb stick of Infineon.
I'd stay with the P3 @ 7?? over the Celeron, especially if fundage is tight. If you have some extra cash. Why not get a P3-700? They are great OC'rs. Mine can be pushed to 1GHz without much "tweaking". I don't leave it there because I want my other components running at spec.
So I settled for 931 😀
 
Talking about performance boost, do u really think the Cel@900 would run much better? (for the upgrade to be worthy) I am a a bit concerned about that 128KB L2 cache u know.....That's why I agree with the opinion that if the budget is really tight, our friend should stick with the Pentium3 and wait for a mobo-cpu upgrade in a short time. (like me.... 😉
 
A celeron at 900 would be no better for him other than putting a few more dollars in his pocket selling the P3 as I had a C2@900 versus P3@733 systems for a while but maybe the C2 900 at 1200 would be a short term solution.

In the long run save for a tualitan mb/cpu combo or put off your upgrade till you can.
 
The general rule of thumb is said to be PIII MHz performance + 200 MHz = Celeron performance. For example, a PIII @ 733 would perform about the same as a Celeron @933. It's not quite that simple, bus speed, application used, etc also come into play.
 
why do you want to upgrade? i have both cel 1.2G@1.6G and a pIII733Mhz@733Mhz, my abit se6+peripherals can't handle 150FSB. 🙁 for a cheap upgrade go for one of the PIII700. my previous system a pII700 Cc0 runs 933Mhz at default voltage. i only use the 1.6G system for Quake 3 and Unreal T.
 
Well, you all have raised some interesting points. I wouldn't consider buying a Celey 900 and running it at that speed since it wouldn't really run any faster than my PIII550E @ 733 mhz. Oldfart stated the PIII plus 200 mhz rule and that would be about it. So I'd have to OC it well above 900, really well above 1000 mhz to notice any improvement. Just so yall know, some of my games get a little sluggish (Baldurs Gate 2, Pool of Radiance II) during some of the more intense battles. But I would think a large increase in CPU would be required to give a boost to those games.

Blain, I'm not really interested in telling people I'm running at x gigahertz per se. Bragging rights aren't worth a dang if it doesn't produce visible results for me. What I am looking for is a inexpensive way to boost my CPU power on the short term. But it may make more sense for me to just start saving up for a new mobo and CPU combo (xlates to AMD Athlon 1600+ on a KT266A mobo and DDR RAM). And do you really think adding more memory would make much diff? I'm running 256 mb now and could toss in another 128 stick I have sitting around, but it may not change things much.
 
I just mentioned the memory because it would be a fairly cheap/easy upgrade. If you've got another 128mb stick laying around, why not slap it in there? 🙂
 


<< I just mentioned the memory because it would be a fairly cheap/easy upgrade. If you've got another 128mb stick laying around, why not slap it in there? 🙂 >>



Can't argue with that one. 🙂 Just didn't think it would make any visible difference so I haven't taken the time to slap it in there. But I've been wrong before.

I would've considered dropping in the nicely OCable PIII700E for 933 mhz running, but the price has remained high... in fact it has risen from some $90 to over $100! Unless I can find a killer deal I may just wait until the dust settles from Christmas and see what looks good in a month or two. Thanks all.
 
Look in the forsale forum here on AT. I have bought three overclockable P3 700e cpus here. The last two I got for very good prices. Well below the new price + shipping.
 
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