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Demon-Xanth

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There's a reason why 1/4 mile works so well.

It hits the launch, accelleration, and high end capabilities of most cars.
 

Demon-Xanth

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5-60 is more real world. Not many people dump the clutch at xx00 RPM to take off from a light.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
There's a reason why 1/4 mile works so well.

It hits the launch, accelleration, and high end capabilities of most cars.

0-100-0 or 0-150-0 works quite well too.

0-60 isn't worth a lot, I'd much rather know 5-60.

Viper GTS
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
There's a reason why 1/4 mile works so well.

It hits the launch, accelleration, and high end capabilities of most cars.

0-100-0 or 0-150-0 works quite well too.

0-60 isn't worth a lot, I'd much rather know 5-60.

Viper GTS

Sometimes those don't work well. Such as if the car cannot hit 100MPH. Many are limited to 94MPH by the computer so the manufacturer wouldn't have to use more expensive tires. Other (usually older) cars just top out too soon.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
There's a reason why 1/4 mile works so well.

It hits the launch, accelleration, and high end capabilities of most cars.

0-100-0 or 0-150-0 works quite well too.

0-60 isn't worth a lot, I'd much rather know 5-60.

Viper GTS

Sometimes those don't work well. Such as if the car cannot hit 100MPH. Many are limited to 94MPH by the computer so the manufacturer wouldn't have to use more expensive tires. Other (usually older) cars just top out too soon.

Then again people who drive (or purchase, research, etc.) cars that won't hit 100 mph won't care too much about 0-60 times.

Viper GTS
 

Demon-Xanth

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You'd be suprized. There's more than one (non-stock) Dakota owner that found the limiter while running a 1/4 mile. (and cussing as the car stopped accelerating before the lights). Some have 96MPH limiters, others 117MPH. There's something to do with a resonance with certain driveshaft configurations that isn't present with others.
 

Viperoni

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I like the 1/4 mile as a measuring tool, but really, comparing the 0-60, 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, and the engines HP curve tell you how a car will accelerate, and if it's the right car for what you want.
 

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This is all well and good, but in reality, most cars that you would even care about the 0-60mph time on are already geared to do that in 2nd gear, actually just a tad higher.

Other places they use 0-100kph, which I think is around 62mph, so this is what most performance cars are geared for.

There may be an odd car out there that hits redline in 2nd at 57-58 or something, but it's not the norm.

Both my Prelude and 911 hit 100kph at about redline in 2nd.

But I do agree with arbitrary specs being only part of the equation. As far as the specs are concerned, my friend's Mini Cooper S should beat by 911 by just a smidge to 60, and because of my non-speedy transmission. When we did a rolling race though, from about 35-80, I started walking away right from the moment we started, so it's apparent which car is faster.

I wouldn't have any problem taking lots of "faster" cars on a track, but I don't have a drag car.

Unfotunately, with the exception of Top Gear, our cars aren't tested on the same track by the same driver for the top lap times, and most of the cars they test, the majority of us won't see.

I've seen a 911 Turbo get trounced at a smaller track with more turns and less straightaways by a "lowly" 914 with about 75hp.
 

Demon-Xanth

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The problem with testing on a single track, is which track?

As Llama stated, some tracks a 914 can beat a 911. Others it can't. Go to Nurbergring and the long wheelbase cars have an advantage, setup an autocross course and suddenly the short wheelbase cars have an advantage.
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The problem with testing on a single track, is which track?

As Llama stated, some tracks a 914 can beat a 911. Others it can't. Go to Nurbergring and the long wheelbase cars have an advantage, setup an autocross course and suddenly the short wheelbase cars have an advantage.

I lubbed my 914-2.0