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“People of Color ONLY space”

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A little back round on the incident:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/03/...pdate-on-fatal-shootout-that-injured-officer/
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The deranged request

A meeting being held Sunday in Boston about the police shooting death of career Black criminal Angelo West will bar white people from attending according to the organizer.

The meeting announced by the Boston chapter of Black Lives Matter states it will be a “People of Color ONLY space.”

West was killed in a shootout with police Friday after he shot white Boston police officer John Moynihan point blank in the face during a traffic stop as part of an investigation in to an earlier report of shots fired in that area. Moynihan is in a medically induced coma as the bullet is still lodged in his head.

West tried to kill police officers in a 2001 shootout. The Boston Black Lives Matter chapter posted to Twitter about the meeting:

(Comments in link NSFW)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...out-deadly-police-shooting-of-black-criminal/
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Officer Moynihan was honored by the White House last year as one of ‘America’s Top Cops’ for his role in saving the life of a transit officer during a gunfight with the Boston Marathon bombers in April 2013.
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Sounds like racism, segregation and bigotry. But since thats directed towards whites and not originating from them, its obviously perfectly fine.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Sounds like they booked a private meeting space and are free to invite whomever they want.
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The issue isnt whether or not they can do what theyre doing, nobody is trying to argue they cant choose to segregate themselves. The point that annoys (not even angers) me is if a white group tried this everyone and their mothers would be labeled "racist".
 
Smoblikat said:
Sounds like racism, segregation and bigotry. But since thats directed towards whites and not originating from them, its obviously perfectly fine.
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Racism, No. Racial Segregation, Yes. Bigotry, Depends on what the goal of calling the meeting was.

That being said. Clearly a bad idea. But born from the belief that colored people aren't getting a fare shake (given recent events, a claim that would be hard for anyone to argue against) and have to organize.
 
Smoblikat said:
The issue isnt whether or not they can do what theyre doing, nobody is trying to argue they cant choose to segregate themselves. The point that annoys (not even angers) me is if a white group tried this everyone and their mothers would be labeled "racist".
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You and your mother are free to label them racist too.
 
senseamp said:
You and your mother are free to label them racist too.
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Its not worth my time to worry about the ethnicity (what most people call race) of others. I dont care enough to need a sign on my house that says whites only, I reserve my judgment of others based on character not color.
 
Yep, nothing is more productive to racial harmony and pushing for equal treatment of everyone regardless of race than excluding people from your meetings based on race. </sarcasm>

No doubt legally they can invite whoever they want to their little racist gathering, but can you imagine the uproar if the races involved were different? Yowser. Racist scum. Instead of "black lives matter", how about "all lives matter"?
 
The over-riding question is, do such meetings attract people committed to honesty, or people committed to activism at any cost?

It's fine to organize such a group, and if they stick to honesty, who would object? But if the outcome is along the lines "Hands up, don't shoot" the meeting is counter-productive and setting race relations back.

My opinion is I have no opinion on the group nor the meeting until such time they announce what their views are and any potential reaction, then an opinion will be formed.

I don't know, if the person who tried to shoot an officer then was shot dead in return, were white, I'd just be like, whatever. I don't understand the concept of seeing such a situation and extrapolating that this country therefore doesn't believe my life matters. It's a perception gap for sure.
 
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heh. this would be a huge story if white's did it.
should be interesting when someone leaks the video of it.
 
cubby1223 said:
The over-riding question is, do such meetings attract people committed to honesty, or people committed to activism at any cost?

It's fine to organize such a group, and if they stick to honesty, who would object? But if the outcome is along the lines "Hands up, don't shoot" the meeting is counter-productive and setting race relations back.

My opinion is I have no opinion on the group nor the meeting until such time they announce what their views are and any potential reaction, then an opinion will be formed.

I don't know, if the person who tried to shoot an officer then was shot dead in return, were white, I'd just be like, whatever. I don't understand the concept of seeing such a situation and extrapolating that this country therefore doesn't believe my life matters. It's a perception gap for sure.
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And this is how I see it as well. I don't care about the demographic of the group as in this circumstance I can see their reasoning. What I would like to know is why do they want to limit to only "people of color". What is the purpose of the meeting and what do they want to achieve? Do they want to go activist and immediately assume the worse or do they want to, as a community, discuss this type of situation and ways to tone down the activist responses and actually consider the appropriate evidence before they, as a group, formally respond to these types of situations.
 
White people jumping on the black causeneed to realize it is a dog eat dog world, they should focus on thier best interests. Because african Americans are focusing on theirs. It would be like jewish people wanting to jump on the NAZI cause.
 
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DigDog said:
White People ONLY Space.

How does that sound ?
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I would generally consider it Racism, because generally when white people try to exclude black people, it is because they a have a believe that has transcended history that African Americans are somehow inferior or dirty.

In this case, the genesis of the meeting is that the colored people in this community feel targeted and under siege (rightfully or not) and feel they want to address ways to stop it I assume among other colored.

I don't agree with it because I don't agree with any racially discriminatory behavior, but to call it racism is just a lack of understanding of the word.
 
emperus said:
I would generally consider it Racism, because generally when white people try to exclude black people, it is because they a have a believe that has transcended history that African Americans are somehow inferior or dirty.

In this case, the genesis of the meeting is that the colored people in this community feel targeted and under siege (rightfully or not) and feel they want to address ways to stop it I assume among other colored.

I don't agree with it because I don't agree with any racially discriminatory behavior, but to call it racism is just a lack of understanding of the word.
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again. empreus showing his amazing intellect!
 
DigDog said:
White People ONLY Space.

How does that sound ?
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It sounds like overt racism.

"no whites allowed, thanks for your cooperation!"

"send"

It takes a legendary ignoramus to type something like that and expect to be taken seriously.
 
waggy said:
again. empreus showing his amazing intellect!
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Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery &#8212; subordination to the superior race &#8212; is his natural and normal condition.

It is the first government ever instituted upon the principles in strict conformity to nature, and the ordination of Providence, in furnishing the materials of human society.

Our system commits no such violation of nature&#8217;s laws. With us, all of the white race, however high or low, rich or poor, are equal in the eye of the law. Not so with the negro. Subordination is his place. He, by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system.
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Alexander H. Stephens, VP CSA, March 21, 1861, Savannah, GA.


http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/corner-stone-speech-excerpt/
 
Yep, definitely racist. What this meeting request says is that the white people are not a part of their community and not a part of solving the problem. It wants to maintain the us vs them, black vs white mentality and perpetuate differences based on skin color.
 
BoberFett said:
Yep, definitely racist. What this meeting request says is that the white people are not a part of their community and not a part of solving the problem. It wants to maintain the us vs them, black vs white mentality and perpetuate differences based on skin color.
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It's not even black vs white, somehow there's this notion of solidarity with anything-but-white people.

Like if you're half Chinese you can totally be part of their group now.

Even if they seriously believe that white people can't experience racism (which I emphatically disagree with as it is), that in no way suggests that non-white people are incapable of being racists. Even if they think all racism is institutional/structural it's absurd to think that only white people can participate in such structures.
 
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