Discussion Qualcomm Snapdragon Thread

[FlameTail]

Unclear whether this is emulated or native, but interesting news none the less for WoA's future as a games platform:

Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite hits 30 FPS in Baldur's Gate 3

The bare minimum performance, but suggests a beefy integrated GPU

www.theregister.com

It's emulated, iirc.

How many FPS does Radeon 780M do at 1080p for comparison?

 

[soresu]

How many FPS does Radeon 780M do at 1080p for comparison?

Asking the wrong person 😂

I was semi excited for Diablo 4 when it was first announced, but by the time it was actually released I had lost almost all desire to game.

 

[FlameTail]

Snapdragon X Elite gaming performance termed "perfectly playable" as video of chip running Baldur's Gate 3 emerges

Video of a Snapdragon X Elite reference laptop running Baldur’s Gate 3 has surfaced online, showing performance in the vicinity of the AMD Radeon 780M and Meteor Lake’s Intel Arc iGPU. Qualcomm has previously claimed that the Adreno GPU of the X Elite massively outshines the Radeon 780M when...

www.notebookcheck.net

For comparison, the Radeon 780M manages about 32 FPS in Baldur’s Gate 3 at FHD/medium per our testing. Dropping the settings down to the low preset, the iGPU pushes 40 FPS. On the other hand, the 8-core Intel Arc iGPU of Core Ultra 9 185H only achieves 32 FPS at FHD/low.

That said, the video neither mentions the graphical settings in use nor the power consumption of the Snapdragon X Elite. So, take the information provided with a giant grain of salt.

Ok that's not bad. It's in level with Intel and AMD.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Ok that's not bad. It's in level with Intel and AMD.

Just hype at this point until devices get into the hands of competent reviewers and identical or comparable graphical settings are used for benchmarking.

 

[poke01]

It's emulated, iirc.

How many FPS does Radeon 780M do at 1080p for comparison?

Kinda funny when the Mac version is native

 

[hemedans]

It's emulated, iirc.

How many FPS does Radeon 780M do at 1080p for comparison?

Around 40fps, 1080p low settings.

 

[FlameTail]

Around 40fps, 1080p low settings.

For comparison, the Radeon 780M manages about 32 FPS in Baldur’s Gate 3 at FHD/medium per our testing. Dropping the settings down to the low preset, the iGPU pushes 40 FPS. On the other hand, the 8-core Intel Arc iGPU of Core Ultra 9 185H only achieves 32 FPS at FHD/low.

Notebookcheck

 

[FlameTail]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773408857869427182

Snapdragon X Elite runs Redout2 at 40 FPS.

 

[FlameTail]

X Elite;


CPU
M3 Max: 56W
X Elite: 51W
M2 Max: 34W
M2 Pro: 34W
M3 Pro: 27W
M3: 20W

GPU
M3 Max: 60W
X Elite: 31W
M3 Pro: 28W
M2 Pro: 25W
M3: 15W
M2: 13.5W

Clearly, the X Elite is not as efficient as Apple's offerings.

*Above wattage data for Apple SoCs was mined from Notebookcheck's reviews of Macbooks.

 

[FlameTail]

CPU consumes M3 Max levels of power, while delivering M3 Pro levels of performance.

GPU consumes M3 Pro levels of power while delivering M3 levels of performance.

You guys smell the problem?

 

[gdansk]

Or the CPU can drop 20W and deliver ~M3 Pro performance at ~M3 Pro power?

 

[FlameTail]

Or the CPU can drop 20W and deliver ~M3 Pro performance at ~M3 Pro power?

I don't think so

(Cinebench 2024 Multi) - CPUMonkey

 

[gdansk]

But if I'm reading that list correctly it's about (not verified) 160 points above the M3 Pro.
And if I'm eyeballing the other chart correctly it only loses 10-15% performance dropping from 50W to 30W.

Am I missing something?

 

[FlameTail]

Psst.

I'll wait for power measurements from reviewers after it launches.

 

[gdansk]

That's a good idea. At least that way there's no panic about it being clearly less efficient before it's out.

 

[FlameTail]

That's a good idea. At least that way there's no panic about it being clearly less efficient before it's out.

I am certain it will be less efficient. The question is by how much exactly...

 

[Tup3x]

Matching M2 Max while using 30% less power is good staring point (Geekbench). Cross platform comparisons are always somewhat problematic anyway since there are other variables that can skew the results. I'm interested how much they can improve in the next gen.

 

[FlameTail]

Matching M2 Max while using 30% less power is good staring point (Geekbench). Cross platform comparisons are always somewhat problematic anyway since there are other variables that can skew the results. I'm interested how much they can improve in the next gen.

That's for Single Thread. Not multi-thread, which is what the ~50W number is for.

 

[FlameTail]

What's the maximum TDP a fanless device can support?

Apple M3 in Macbook Air has a 10.5W TDP (as per NoteBookCheck).

The old Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 was often configured with a 9W TDP.

 

[FlameTail]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773716444078813320

Is this guy running Windows 11 on a Snapdragon 888?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Is this guy running Windows 11 on a Snapdragon 888?

On a phone? Or a dev board?

 

[FlameTail]

Sure

 

[FlameTail]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1774715894305788118

AI pet translator?

 

[SarahKerrigan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1774715894305788118

AI pet translator?

Note the date.

 

[soresu]

What's the maximum TDP a fanless device can support?

Depends entirely on the device size and the efficiency of the cooling assembly.